Gabriel Appelt (13 Viewers)

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
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This is what Jack means about you whining at everything.
Its not whining, its having an opinion. I'm not saying anything crazy or way off.

What you're doing though is whining.

What point are you trying to make? He's getting playing time with the youth squad.

I think I've explained how meaningless Brazilian state championship games are enough times.
The point I'm trying to make is that I think he's too good for the youth squad. Just because he's young doesn't mean he should be playing with the youth squad.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,901
He's still with the Primavera? Go from owning Ronaldinho to primavera seems like the logical step.
He just turned 18, didn't he?

Even in the great Barcelona, which gives so many chances to its youngsters, hardly anyone makes a debut in the senior team at 18 or got to play more than 2-3 matches before turning 20. Hell, even Messi had only 7 La Liga appearances when he was Appelt's age.
 
May 22, 2007
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The point I'm trying to make is that I think he's too good for the youth squad. Just because he's young doesn't mean he should be playing with the youth squad.
Then what do you suggest for him to get game time?

He isn't going to break into the first team by the way.
 

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,084
He just turned 18, didn't he?

Even in the great Barcelona, which gives so many chances to its youngsters, hardly anyone makes a debut in the senior team at 18 or got to play more than 2-3 matches before turning 20. Hell, even Messi had only 7 La Liga appearances when he was Appelt's age.
Not saying he should play or anything but training with the first team players would do him some good.

No, it's whining.
Cool, so what are we going to do about it? Whine some more?

Then what do you suggest for him to get game time?

He isn't going to break into the first team by the way.
Challenge our first team players. Train with them everyday, develop and prove if he's good enough in that level or not. I think that would be much better for him than playing in the much criticized Italian primavera.

Just because Primavera offers him playing time doesn't actually mean that the weak opponents are good for him.
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
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We are going to do nothing, but you are going to keep whining about anything and everything, because that's what you do.

He's already trained with the first team, when he first joined, and he will some more. Still, I'm sure if he doesn't play this season you'll have another excuse to whine.
 
May 22, 2007
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Challenge our first team players. Train with them everyday, develop and prove if he's good enough in that level or not. I think that would be much better for him than playing in the much criticized Italian primavera.

Just because Primavera offers him playing time doesn't actually mean that the weak opponents are good for him.
I'm fairly sure he's already trained with the first team since joining Juventus, ultimately game time is what helps players gain experience. I'd rather he had 90 minutes a week with the primavera than sit in the stands for Juventus matches.
 

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,084
We are going to do nothing, but you are going to keep whining about anything and everything, because that's what you do.

He's already trained with the first team, when he first joined, and he will some more. Still, I'm sure if he doesn't play this season you'll have another excuse to whine.
Expressing an opinion you don't share doesn't make me a whiner. Having another solution to how to handle a young player isn't whining. I would appreciate it if you'd stop trying to analyze me as a person. You don't know me and its getting a bit boring and pathetic.


I'm fairly sure he's already trained with the first team since joining Juventus, ultimately game time is what helps players gain experience. I'd rather he had 90 minutes a week with the primavera than sit in the stands for Juventus matches.
I guess we have to agree to disagree. I think he'd be much better off in training day in and day out with quality professional football players than playing against 17 year old kids. And also, if we go with what he did in Brazil, being a star at 17 and him being awarded 2nd best midfielder, I think he belongs there.
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
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Expressing an opinion you don't share doesn't make me a whiner. Having another solution to how to handle a young player isn't whining. I would appreciate it if you'd stop trying to analyze me as a person. You don't know me and its getting a bit boring and pathetic.
You didn't express an opinion, you made a typical disparaging negative comment about something that you've shown little understanding of. I don't need to try analysing you, a whiner you'll always be ;)

If Sun's is whining then what do you call what I do? :shocked2:
Female.
 
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Lo-Pan

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
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    He has a reputation of possessing brilliant potential, not just on the word of a team mate or two in the primavera, but our own Mr Sandreani spoke very highly of him, as well as a couple of other notable football people.

    Anyone who has followed the team this season, should understand by now that Conte has no leaning towards playing any players who are not match sharp and acclimatized to italian football and the tactics he deploys. Gabriel hasn't played competitively for 6 months, and will need more than a month to get match sharp, start putting his training into practice in competitive matches (Baroni and the other youth team coaches follow Conte's model of the senior team) and improving his italian skills. Conte prefers to play those he knows he can rely upon, rather than those with the most talent on paper alone.

    I am glad Gabriel is playing and look forward to seeing the Buoy kid in action alongside him and that monster Chibsah(who looks nearer 35 than 18) in the middle of the park. Those three could mirror, potentially, our own Marchisio/Pirlo/Vidal midfield.
     

    FlavioJuve

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    Jun 6, 2007
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    He has a reputation of possessing brilliant potential, not just on the word of a team mate or two in the primavera, but our own Mr Sandreani spoke very highly of him, as well as a couple of other notable football people.

    Anyone who has followed the team this season, should understand by now that Conte has no leaning towards playing any players who are not match sharp and acclimatized to italian football and the tactics he deploys. Gabriel hasn't played competitively for 6 months, and will need more than a month to get match sharp, start putting his training into practice in competitive matches (Baroni and the other youth team coaches follow Conte's model of the senior team) and improving his italian skills. Conte prefers to play those he knows he can rely upon, rather than those with the most talent on paper alone.

    I am glad Gabriel is playing and look forward to seeing the Buoy kid in action alongside him and that monster Chibsah(who looks nearer 35 than 18) in the middle of the park. Those three could mirror, potentially, our own Marchisio/Pirlo/Vidal midfield.
    Wow, that looks like an AMEN to me.
     

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