[Friendly] Manchester United - Juventus (August 6th, 2008) (10 Viewers)
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It's natural. Reading fires imaginations and inspires your mind.
But i think it wasn't my imagination because i could swear you said how you hope for a 8:0 defeat tomorrow.
Or were you just joking, just like you're joking with the non-stop whining and negativity ?
Or maybe you said it (or i imagined it, i'm still not 100% sure you said it) because with such a heavy defeat our board will finally open their eyes and buy the needed players ?
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding if this was the case.
But i think it wasn't my imagination because i could swear you said how you hope for a 8:0 defeat tomorrow.
Or were you just joking, just like you're joking with the non-stop whining and negativity ?
Or maybe you said it (or i imagined it, i'm still not 100% sure you said it) because with such a heavy defeat our board will finally open their eyes and buy the needed players ?
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding if this was the case.
You really need to take some chill pills, seriously! If you really read a lot, you would noticed that I don't care about friendlies' scores, but when you lose 8-0 in a friendly, you will notice some things are wrong, and you see the problems earlier, before the season starts. and yes they will buy the needed players that way, instead of waiting until everything goes wrong and do the transfers in January, when everything gets harder that way.
I am not idiot to wish a loss for my team in CL qualifiers or enjoy seeing my team fail in the league, predicting is something, and wishing is different. There is no harm in losing in friendlies..
I am not idiot to wish a loss for my team in CL qualifiers or enjoy seeing my team fail in the league, predicting is something, and wishing is different. There is no harm in losing in friendlies..
Yes this would have been true if our team was indeed so weak and helpless as you and few more think, but why are you so sure that you're right and everything will go wrong if we don't buy more players ?
Yes, i'm all for another cb and a Lb, but you're picturing the situation as a disaster waiting to happen if we enter the season with this players.
And another thing...what makes you think that we'll buy new players if we lose 8:0 ?
In 7 days we play CL and i believe that in some 4-5 days we'll have to give UEFA the list of players that will play in CL for us this year. You think that we can do what's needed in these 4-5 days and buy the great players we need ?
How do you know that the so called incompetent fools in our board won't add even more average players to the team ?
So keep wishing for a 0:8 defeat but at the end it won't change anything. It will only give the pessimists in this forum bragging rights and satisfaction that they were right all the time.
Yes, i'm all for another cb and a Lb, but you're picturing the situation as a disaster waiting to happen if we enter the season with this players.
And another thing...what makes you think that we'll buy new players if we lose 8:0 ?
In 7 days we play CL and i believe that in some 4-5 days we'll have to give UEFA the list of players that will play in CL for us this year. You think that we can do what's needed in these 4-5 days and buy the great players we need ?
How do you know that the so called incompetent fools in our board won't add even more average players to the team ?
So keep wishing for a 0:8 defeat but at the end it won't change anything. It will only give the pessimists in this forum bragging rights and satisfaction that they were right all the time.
I am not a pessimist, all these years in the forum I always supported the managers, and always supported the board and told that we should be patient and only time will tell what is right or wrong, you really don't know how me and Vinman hated each others for this, ask him! I even supported this board at Deschampes time. Starting from firing Deschampes and replacing Balzaretti with Molinaro for gaining a million dollar put me in this position. I give them credit when they deserve, and bash them harshly when they keep doing mistakes, because enough is enough, you are admitting all these too, and you are telling me that we keep adding average players, but you still oppose me and call me pessimist. Everything is not ok! we both know that, but they don't think it that way. They say transfer campaign is over for them, how about that? Yes I want an LB and a CB, these two are must, and a creative midfielder will be good too, but the other two are must. But we keep on bringing defensive midfielder, and that pisses me off. when we lose 8-0, maybe the fools will realize what if the transfer campaign should be over or not. We can get passed our opponents in CL qualifier with this squad, but we still have time (23 days) for the league and CL! Don't tell me we need to pay a lot to get quality defenders, we wasted 32 Million on players we never needed, so money isn't an excuse anymore.
I suppose I'm one of those pessimists. What are we , terrorists here or something?
People hate posters such as Vinni and myself, because some think our opinions "stink" and are not logical. Fine. But when it comes to this club, I'd rather expose problems than be a conformist trying to justify various decisions within the squad that are either nonsensical or borderline nonsensical.
As I recall correctly, the first three people to come out criticizing our Champions League hopes under Capello were denco, Vinman and myself. Back then, people thought we had a great chance to win the Champions League and thought all we needed was a little luck to win it while not taking some important issues seriously. Many thought we had, at the time, the most solid team in the world under Capello. It doesn't mean shit if you lack key ingredients that make a difference, yet people laughed our opinions off. Then once the disaster occurred and we were owned by Liverpool and Arsenal, many of those who once castigated us for our opinions apologized.
It's not like we are pointing certain concerns out because we want to be correct. We're pointing such things out because we actually give a goddamn care about this club and want us to murder the hell out of the opposition. We won't always be able to do that with certain weaknesses in the squad... weaknesses that WE COULD FUCKING FIX.
But yeah, keep laughing off these concerns of ours. For the sake of the club, I hope you'll be able to keep laughing every single year we do have concerns. That would be sweet because it means we shall do a great job destroying the opposition.
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IMO, if you're a true fan, you will have to criticize facets of the club that you think "stink."
People hate posters such as Vinni and myself, because some think our opinions "stink" and are not logical. Fine. But when it comes to this club, I'd rather expose problems than be a conformist trying to justify various decisions within the squad that are either nonsensical or borderline nonsensical.
As I recall correctly, the first three people to come out criticizing our Champions League hopes under Capello were denco, Vinman and myself. Back then, people thought we had a great chance to win the Champions League and thought all we needed was a little luck to win it while not taking some important issues seriously. Many thought we had, at the time, the most solid team in the world under Capello. It doesn't mean shit if you lack key ingredients that make a difference, yet people laughed our opinions off. Then once the disaster occurred and we were owned by Liverpool and Arsenal, many of those who once castigated us for our opinions apologized.
It's not like we are pointing certain concerns out because we want to be correct. We're pointing such things out because we actually give a goddamn care about this club and want us to murder the hell out of the opposition. We won't always be able to do that with certain weaknesses in the squad... weaknesses that WE COULD FUCKING FIX.
But yeah, keep laughing off these concerns of ours. For the sake of the club, I hope you'll be able to keep laughing every single year we do have concerns. That would be sweet because it means we shall do a great job destroying the opposition.
int:IMO, if you're a true fan, you will have to criticize facets of the club that you think "stink."
The season hasn't started yet and we're again with the same CD track dilemma hearing the same things. Why don't we just fucking wait for the first few official matches we play and then we'll see what should be fixed and what shouldn't.
But so long we criticize and moan after each friendly game then I see this as one sad track. Some of you claim that they don't care about friendlies , yet they're judging Ranieri from every single aspect.
The man so far is a winner whether we all like it or not. He's done his mission, his mission was to take a CL place and at least try to compete with the top two in Serie A....and he managed.
This year he has another mission, shouldn't we wait a bit before we jump on him?
Criticizing the board is different thing though. We all know how much terrible and horrible things they're doing in transfer market and with our current players. No one disagrees here, but as for the coach, I don't see his real problem yet.
All of us, yes all of us will criticize him once he's not doing or achieving what he's asked. But like I said, so far, he's done what he was asked.
But so long we criticize and moan after each friendly game then I see this as one sad track. Some of you claim that they don't care about friendlies , yet they're judging Ranieri from every single aspect.
The man so far is a winner whether we all like it or not. He's done his mission, his mission was to take a CL place and at least try to compete with the top two in Serie A....and he managed.
This year he has another mission, shouldn't we wait a bit before we jump on him?
Criticizing the board is different thing though. We all know how much terrible and horrible things they're doing in transfer market and with our current players. No one disagrees here, but as for the coach, I don't see his real problem yet.
All of us, yes all of us will criticize him once he's not doing or achieving what he's asked. But like I said, so far, he's done what he was asked.
About the possible starters,
I dont see Del piero starting this game, hes not the best option when going up against big and fast defenders like Ferdinand and Vidic. So im expecting Amauri or Iaquinta to play alongside Trezugeut.
In the Middle, Sissoko and Poulson-. Poulson atm seems to be the most comfortable player on the ball out of all the DM/CM.
Lastly, I hope Zebina starts over Gygera. Gygera might be outpaced and outmuscled by Evra, while Zebina offers more pace and likes to go farward.
I dont see Del piero starting this game, hes not the best option when going up against big and fast defenders like Ferdinand and Vidic. So im expecting Amauri or Iaquinta to play alongside Trezugeut.
In the Middle, Sissoko and Poulson-. Poulson atm seems to be the most comfortable player on the ball out of all the DM/CM.
Lastly, I hope Zebina starts over Gygera. Gygera might be outpaced and outmuscled by Evra, while Zebina offers more pace and likes to go farward.
