French clubs worst in finals, Italians come in fourth (2 Viewers)

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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A Belgian newspaper (www.standaard.be) found out that the French clubs are the worst performers in European finals.

Here's the list, it includes nations whos clubs have played at least 8 finals since the existence of pan-European club competitions. Rankings include the Champions League and the UEFAcup (or their predecessors with different names) but NOT the Intertoto cup.
 
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Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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Dutch clubs rule in finals! :extatic:

We just happen to suck at the group stage, the quarter finals and the semi finals

:doh::D
 

dpforever

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Jan 12, 2002
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Interesting stats indeed.

England and Italy have both won 27 times but England has done it with less teams in the final.

France, terrible. They won twice from 13 attempts !!
 
Dec 27, 2003
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Lol @ French clubs winning less cups than their Portuguese, Scottish and Belgian counterparts.

Juve only won 2 finals out of 7 if I am correct. Besides the recent losses they were famously defeated by Hamburg in 83 (despite being super favourites) and by some other team which I don't recall earlier on.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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Yeah it's funny how some seem to lose a lot more than they win. The first ever European Cup final saw Real Madrid facing Reims. They of course lost and since the 50s have never been heard of again. But the history of losing does actually go back that far.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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To be honest, I have to question if these stats are worth the bits they're printed on. At least in terms of being relevant to any possible outcomes in the present.

For example, what Benefica did in the early 1960s has no relation or bearing on what FC Porto has done recently (let alone in the late 1980s).

I've always felt historical statistics for a single club are useless. For example: the historical club records of Milan versus Inter ... as if the actions of Giuseppe Meazza 70 years ago have any bearing on today's Milano derbies other than the name of the stadium. It's even more tenuous to try to find some kind of umbrella national trend to that.
 

Majed

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Jul 17, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
To be honest, I have to question if these stats are worth the bits they're printed on. At least in terms of being relevant to any possible outcomes in the present.

For example, what Benefica did in the early 1960s has no relation or bearing on what FC Porto has done recently (let alone in the late 1980s).

I've always felt historical statistics for a single club are useless. For example: the historical club records of Milan versus Inter ... as if the actions of Giuseppe Meazza 70 years ago have any bearing on today's Milano derbies other than the name of the stadium. It's even more tenuous to try to find some kind of umbrella national trend to that.
Many Italian are superstitious... I assume they look for trends from statistics to see what they're up against.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
Many Italian are superstitious... I assume they look for trends from statistics to see what they're up against.
No offense intended to anyone, but you are so right in a number of circles.

When I was in Italy earlier this month, I ran into a number of situations where I thought Stevie Wonder should have penned the Italian national anthem, if you know what I mean (and I think you do). :rolleyes:
 

*aca*

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Jul 15, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++


where I thought Stevie Wonder should have penned the Italian national anthem, if you know what I mean (and I think you do). :rolleyes:
I think that they should have chosen Stevie Ray Vaughan's version :D
 
Jan 7, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
Yeah it's funny how some seem to lose a lot more than they win. The first ever European Cup final saw Real Madrid facing Reims. They of course lost and since the 50s have never been heard of again. But the history of losing does actually go back that far.

coz real brought all their best players
 

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