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Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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You're saying he would permanently suck with losing becoming "second nature", like he's coming back from the Vietnam War and suffers from flashbacks and PTSD or something. All I'm saying is more playing time should do him some good, especially when he will have a lot to do. But who knows, we will see.
I know playing time is obviously beneficial, but it's not the only thing useful for a player's development and it shouldn't come at the expense of these other factors.

Besides, Sorensen is a better option for RB than Motta.
 

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Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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You want a 18 year old youngster to switch from being a RB back up and CB back up all the time? How much are you demanding from him? :D

Poor thing will be confused as fuck.
No, because if he's only 4th or 5th choice CB, he won't be called to play there regularly and as sub RB, won't be playing there all the time either.
Parma would have played Giovinco on loan as well...
And how old is Giovinco now? When is he going to be that great player we've been waiting for? Imagine, with all that talent he has he should be near the top by now. Too bad a lot of his best years as a youngster were spent hopping around all over the place.
 

Kasaki

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Jun 1, 2010
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No, because if he's only 4th or 5th choice CB, he won't be called to play there regularly and as sub RB, won't be playing there all the time either.

And how old is Giovinco now? When is he going to be that great player we've been waiting for? Imagine, with all that talent he has he should be near the top by now. Too bad a lot of his best years as a youngster were spent hopping around all over the place.
Talent unused it worthless...

Can't play well on the bench, he proved at parma that with adequate playing time he can be good. When he was younger it was him, messi, ronaldo for a reason..
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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Talent unused it worthless...

Can't play well on the bench, he proved at parma that with adequate playing time he can be good. When he was younger it was him, messi, ronaldo for a reason..
And now he's 24. Had to wait a long time for that. At Empoli he got less playing time than when he was at Juve too--how old was he then, 20/21?--and he's an attacker i.e. a less risky player for coaches to gamble with; imagine how'd they feel about a 19-year old Danish defender.
 

Kasaki

Moggi's Assistant
Jun 1, 2010
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And now he's 24. Had to wait a long time for that. At Empoli he got less playing time than when he was at Juve too--how old was he then, 20/21?--and he's an attacker i.e. a less risky player for coaches to gamble with; imagine how'd they feel about a 19-year old Danish defender.
:agree: Unless ur a fullback chances a coach will u you as a CB when he's got two veteran Cb's are slim to none.
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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I know playing time is obviously beneficial, but it's not the only thing useful for a player's development and it shouldn't come at the expense of these other factors.

Besides, Sorensen is a better option for RB than Motta.
WC facilities can only do you so much though, playing time is what gives the experience, and that is priceless in my eyes.

YES! I cannot for the life of me understand why Delneri always played Motta when Sorensen was right there on the bench. I wanted to throw my tv out the window.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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He'll still be confused, it won't matter that the team comes before him, because we are not desperate to use him as a RB & a CB.
I'm sorry, I don't think that's a valid point. He will not be interchanging regularly. If he's 4th choice CB, I'd average 5 games for him there. Besides, why would he get confused? :confused: Players are called to do that all the time. I think it may be a good thing actually; it can vary his skill set. Playing at RB may help him to learn to deal with players running at him, help his ball control and passing, etc. and is less pressure than at CB, so he can grow to that role gradually.
 

Bezzy

The Bookie Queen
Jun 5, 2010
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He'll still be confused, it won't matter that the team comes before him, because we are not desperate to use him as a RB & a CB.
if the team is solid organized it doesn't matter if he has to come in

but he is leaving :( I hope he comes back next summer :)
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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He'll still be confused, it won't matter that the team comes before him, because we are not desperate to use him as a RB & a CB.
So we don't want to waste or risk losing the highly rated Sorenson who is apparently not good enough to do something 1000's of football players have to do in their career?

If it's too "confusing" for him then we can make that transfer to Bologna a permanent one.
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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So we don't want to waste or risk losing the highly rated Sorenson who is apparently not good enough to do something 1000's of football players have to do in their career?

If it's too "confusing" for him then we can make that transfer to Bologna a permanent one.
There is a difference between doing it later in their career, and at the beggining for their career.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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There is a difference between doing it later in their career, and at the beggining for their career.
He's a professional, not a youth now learning how to defend. He's not gonna forget what to do, or mix up his roles.

I think he'd be staying had we not fucked up and agreed to the obligation to sign Mottard after his loan. We're basically stuck with him for now.
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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I'm sorry, I don't think that's a valid point. He will not be interchanging regularly. If he's 4th choice CB, I'd average 5 games for him there. Besides, why would he get confused? :confused: Players are called to do that all the time. I think it may be a good thing actually; it can vary his skill set. Playing at RB may help him to learn to deal with players running at him, help his ball control and passing, etc. and is less pressure than at CB, so he can grow to that role gradually.
And I don't think your points are valid - Hence the discussion.

I don't think the playing as RB & CB is as easy as some of you makes it sound. He haven't even played in his natural position for us (Ok, 1 game) and you want him to rotate between RB (where he did make mistakes) and CB? Let him focus on one position first. After that he can start playing in the other position.
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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He's a professional, not a youth now learning how to defend. He's not gonna forget what to do, or mix up his roles.

I think he'd be staying had we not fucked up and agreed to the obligation to sign Mottard after his loan. We're basically stuck with him for now.
We can always get rid of Mottatard for playing Sørensen, but I think the coach & mgmt agrees with me.

At the end of the day, he is still a youngster.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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We can always get rid of Mottatard for playing Sørensen, but I think the coach & mgmt agrees with me.

At the end of the day, he is still a youngster.
How do we get rid of Mottard? You think he's in demand and we don't want to let him go?

Yeah, he's a youngster, so loan him. Of course, it's natural. That's why Juve suck at developing youth.
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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He's a professional, not a youth now learning how to defend. He's not gonna forget what to do, or mix up his roles.

I think he'd be staying had we not fucked up and agreed to the obligation to sign Mottard after his loan. We're basically stuck with him for now.
Yes but this "professional" will apparently be ruined if he plays on a losing team.
 

Quetzalcoatl

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Aug 22, 2007
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Yes but this "professional" will apparently be ruined if he plays on a losing team.
Ruined? Who said that? You lack comprehension skills. You think that playing 20 games a season (if so much, that's not even a guarantee) will raise his attributes by 3, don't you? His tackling will go from 12 to 15, right?

Do you actually agree that it's "confusing" to ask a play to play 2 different roles? That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
 

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