Frederik Sørensen (42 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

Meh that's pointless. If we loan him to Bologna, and he's actually good enough for us to ever want back, then he should be starting for them. Bologna fight every season to avoid relegation if he's any good they'll play him.

Co-owns are retarded.

Exactly. And he won't develop more by playing 20 friggin' games for relegation battlers than being a backup at Juve. Those 15 extra games aren't more useful than the time he would spend with a better team with better facilites, coaches, players (mentors), higher ambitions and more pressure.

 

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[Flamez]

I love the "incentive" argument. Does a club that fight to avoid relegation really need an incentive to get a quality youngster and put him on the pitch? Really? No seriously, really?

I'd be happy with a sell with rebuy option, with him staying in the squad or with a straight loan. Co-ownership is just as retarded as it is.

Plus, do you guys seriously believe he'll develop more playing 30 games for a shaky defence than playing 10 games for a estabilished defence? In this deal, either we lose money or we lose a player.

 

[MikeM]

We have 3 CBs already ahead of him here with a 4th on the way. And we're not even in Europe. He won't play at all here. Like, zero games.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Most of you guys must be FM players. His attributes aren't going to go up by 1 for every 3 games he plays. Actually, he'll probably be playing games where he's on the receiving end of 3-0 scorelines. Great development, huh?

Besides, he's probably not gonna be a starter there anyway. No Serie A club is going to put such faith in a 19-year old foreigner with less than 10 full games of top flight experience, especially at CB. He won't play that much there either.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

And you all say how can he benefit in a team with shaky defense that is fighting for relegation, how could he not? To me it sounds great, it sounds like he will have a lot coming at him at all times then. Sort of like intense training. If there is no leadership in their defense, maybe he will assume the role or something, who knows?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

And you all say how can he benefit in a team with shaky defense that is fighting for relegation, how could he not? To me it sounds great, it sounds like he will have a lot coming at him at all times then. Sort of like intense training. If there is no leadership in their defense, maybe he will assume the role or something, who knows?

Or he will end up getting match ratings of 5.5 every week, and collecting the just reward of relegation for his trouble. But yeah, let losing become second nature to him.

 

[MikeM]

Are you seriously trying to say that playing games is not beneficial to a young player?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

No.

 

[Fake Melo]

It's beter to play games and lose them instead of not even being on the bench for us.

Here's the deal. If we get another CB, let's say Lugano.

It will most probably be: Chiellini and Lugano as starters, Barzagli and Bonucci on the bench.

Selling one of Barzagli or Bonucci to make place for Sørensen on the bench is not an option, believe me.

So what do you prefer, Sørensen playing with the primavera or Sørensen getting 15-20 games in his natural position for Bologna?

 

[Boksic]

And you all say how can he benefit in a team with shaky defense that is fighting for relegation, how could he not? To me it sounds great, it sounds like he will have a lot coming at him at all times then. Sort of like intense training. If there is no leadership in their defense, maybe he will assume the role or something, who knows?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

It's beter to play games and lose them instead of not even being on the bench for us.

Here's the deal. If we get another CB, let's say Lugano.

It will most probably be: Chiellini and Lugano as starters, Barzagli and Bonucci on the bench.

Selling one of Barzagli or Bonucci to make place for Sørensen on the bench is not an option, believe me.

So what do you prefer, Sørensen playing with the primavera or Sørensen getting 15-20 games in his natural position for Bologna?

What I prefer is not keeping Barzagli (if we get Lugano) and keeping Sorensen as 4th choice. I know that won't happen, but it should. In fact, I would rather we cook Motta, have some curry goat and have Sorensen as vice-RB.

Simply, he is better off here.

 

[X Æ A-12]

It's beter to play games and lose them instead of not even being on the bench for us.

Here's the deal. If we get another CB, let's say Lugano.

It will most probably be: Chiellini and Lugano as starters, Barzagli and Bonucci on the bench.

Selling one of Barzagli or Bonucci to make place for Sørensen on the bench is not an option, believe me.

So what do you prefer, Sørensen playing with the primavera or Sørensen getting 15-20 games in his natural position for Bologna?

Sorenson could cover for RB as well instead of Motta. Our defense still isn't that strong in depth, if he deserves it, he'll get the minutes.

 

[Fake Melo]

What I prefer is not keeping Barzagli (if we get Lugano) and keeping Sorensen as 4th choice. I know that won't happen, but it should.

How many games would he get here as 4th choice? Not more than five. Other than that he'll be a waste on the bench.

I really want him to get regular playing time, if Bologna can guarantee that, I would be happy with this kind of a deal.

 

[Fake Melo]

Sorenson could cover for RB as well instead of Motta. Our defense still isn't that strong in depth, if he deserves it, he'll get the minutes.

Why waste him on the RB, instead of playing him in his natural position? Besides, if Conte thinks he'll do better with Motta as backup, I can't argue that, even if it's Marco Motta we are talking about

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Or he will end up getting match ratings of 5.5 every week, and collecting the just reward of relegation for his trouble. But yeah, let losing become second nature to him.

So then Chiellini should suck by now, considering he had to play alongside the likes of Motta and Grosso by that logic. Playing games and getting experience can only be beneficial, at least that's how I see it. You could be right, but only time will tell.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

How many games would he get here as 4th choice? Not more than five. Other than that he'll be a waste on the bench.

I really want him to get regular playing time, if Bologna can guarantee that, I would be happy with this kind of a deal.

I gave my view already on why I don't think playing 15 extra games is more beneficial than training at a big club, with big players, play big matches, have big ambitions, have WC facilities even though he will play let's say 5 games. You know, like how Man Utd. and Barca slowly integrate their players to the team. And if he's vice-RB, he'll get a lot more games.

And Bologna doesn't guarantee shit. See some posts above for what I think on that.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Why waste him on the RB, instead of playing him in his natural position? Besides, if Conte thinks he'll do better with Motta as backup, I can't argue that, even if it's Marco Motta we are talking about

A lot of CBs get their careers going in Serie A by starting out as RBs.

So then Chiellini should suck by now, considering he had to play alongside the likes of Motta and Grosso by that logic. Playing games and getting experience can only be beneficial, at least that's how I see it. You could be right, but only time will tell.

GUess what, Chiellini did kinda suck last year (sad to say), even though Motta and Grosso are much better than what there is at Bologna. And that's a bad example since those are 2 of our worst when they would be Bologna's best.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

GUess what, Chiellini did kinda suck last year (sad to say), even though Motta and Grosso are much better than what there is at Bologna. And that's a bad example since those are 2 of our worst when they would be Bologna's best.

You're saying he would permanently suck with losing becoming "second nature", like he's coming back from the Vietnam War and suffers from flashbacks and PTSD or something. All I'm saying is more playing time should do him some good, especially when he will have a lot to do. But who knows, we will see.

 

[Fake Melo]

A lot of CBs get their careers going in Serie A by starting out as RBs.

You want a 18 year old youngster to switch from being a RB back up and CB back up all the time? How much are you demanding from him?

Poor thing will be confused as fuck.

 

[Kasaki]

This is true for all loans/co-owns for our youngsters. He could turn out to be like Iago, who was made to play in the Primavera instead of the senior team, or could turn out like Giovinco, who gets good playing time and bursts onto the scene.

Parma would have played Giovinco on loan as well...