[FML] Serie A 2009/2010 (43 Viewers)

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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his (in)experience will not change the fact that too many of our players are underperforming and with the injuries situation, he does not have that many options available either
Our players might under perform because trainings are too demanding? Why are the trainings too demanding? Cause Ciro doesnt have enough experience to figure it out yet.
The options available part is just excuse. How long are we going to sing this song? Inter had Eto and Milito out and still crushed a solid team at their home.

...we've decided to use the 4-3-1-2 this season, and barring a huge player absence, we have to stick to it...we played it the whole preseason and are tuning our players into that mode of play...not to mention the fact that we have 4 new players who are in the starting lineup, so it will definitely take time for them to be comfotable with each other on the pitch
Inter also brought on many new faces, Eto, Milito, Snedjer, Lucio, Motta. Thats A LOT? Yet they seem to get the job done. Hm why? Cause Mourinho is one of the best coaches out there.



Then the "we decided to play" part. I thought if you dont have the players available you try something different. You change your tactics.
And we still have creativity even if Diego is still injury prone or missing. But players like DC get the nod over more creative Giovinco.

Today, second half, we where going for the draw, especially when players like DC come in. And its not the first match where we decide to go for a draw, same happened in Munich, but this was at home.

Sure point against Viola isnt bad. But the way things are going, i dont see a reason for optimism. It will take a season for Ciro to adapt, but by the time he adapts it might be all too late and we start of next summer with a new manager, who again will need a season....
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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Our players might under perform because trainings are too demanding? Why are the trainings too demanding? Cause Ciro doesnt have enough experience to figure it out yet.
The options available part is just excuse. How long are we going to sing this song? Inter had Eto and Milito out and still crushed a solid team at their home.



Inter also brought on many new faces, Eto, Milito, Snedjer, Lucio, Motta. Thats A LOT? Yet they seem to get the job done. Hm why? Cause Mourinho is one of the best coaches out there.



Then the "we decided to play" part. I thought if you dont have the players available you try something different. You change your tactics.
And we still have creativity even if Diego is still injury prone or missing. But players like DC get the nod over more creative Giovinco.

Today, second half, we where going for the draw, especially when players like DC come in. And its not the first match where we decide to go for a draw, same happened in Munich, but this was at home.

Sure point against Viola isnt bad. But the way things are going, i dont see a reason for optimism. It will take a season for Ciro to adapt, but by the time he adapts it might be all too late and we start of next summer with a new manager, who again will need a season....

the under performance part is more mental more than anything IMO...recently our team seem to have their confidence shaken quite easily...they need to have more self-belief in their abilities

as for not playing Seba, that is an issue where we need some clarification, clearly there is something going on that we do not know about...what Seba has done wrong, only God knows

as for Inter, no doubt they have a great coach in Mourinho, but they also seem to have the 'luck of champions', if you know what I mean...the Udinese match was a good example of that
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
That doesnt mean much these days. Samp also have a better season than us :p.

Heck Samp have a better season than Arsenal.
Samp aren't playing in two tournaments. Plus they didn't play the tough away games we played, they'll go down sooner or later.

We also have a better team(even though arguable) than Juve when all our players are fit.

But all that doesn't matter, we're in the Serie A thread here. So stop trying to deflect attention from the fact that i was right one month ago :D
 
Dec 26, 2004
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the under performance part is more mental more than anything IMO...recently our team seem to have their confidence shaken quite easily...they need to have more self-belief in their abilities

as for not playing Seba, that is an issue where we need some clarification, clearly there is something going on that we do not know about...what Seba has done wrong, only God knows

as for Inter, no doubt they have a great coach in Mourinho, but they also seem to have the 'luck of champions', if you know what I mean...the Udinese match was a good example of that
I miss the days when we used to laugh our ass on Inter having to play our Bologna situations while we pull their Udinese.
 

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,643
Samp aren't playing in two tournaments. Plus they didn't play the tough away games we played, they'll go down sooner or later.

We also have a better team(even though arguable) than Juve when all our players are fit.

But all that doesn't matter, we're in the Serie A thread here. So stop trying to deflect attention from the fact that i was right one month ago :D
oh and i so care that Arsenal is having a better season in EPL?
 

Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
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Samp aren't playing in two tournaments. Plus they didn't play the tough away games we played, they'll go down sooner or later.

We also have a better team(even though arguable) than Juve when all our players are fit.

But all that doesn't matter, we're in the Serie A thread here. So stop trying to deflect attention from the fact that i was right one month ago :D
You talk alot of sense Fred, but this part of the post, had me laughthing.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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You talk alot of sense Fred, but this part of the post, had me laughthing.

Why so?

We have a pretty tough squad when all our players are fit(Admittedly that doesn't happen a lot)

I'd say we have the better fullbacks, better offensive midfielders, better creative players and we're pretty equal when it comes to strikers and centerbacks.

You guys definitely have the better keeper and a much better set of DM's.

Notice i am only talking about the starting 11 here, i would agree if you said you had more depth and therefore overall a better squad. But our starting 11 are arguably better than yours.
 

Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
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Why so?

We have a pretty tough squad when all our players are fit(Admittedly that doesn't happen a lot)

I'd say we have the better fullbacks, better offensive midfielders, better creative players and we're pretty equal when it comes to strikers and centerbacks.

You guys definitely have the better keeper and a much better set of DM's.

Notice i am only talking about the starting 11 here, i would agree if you said you had more depth and therefore overall a better squad. But our starting 11 are arguably better than yours.
In know way am I underestimating Arsenal mate. I watch them alot in the Premier League. Arsenal do not have a good as Striker as Del Piero. Keeper as Buffon, Creative player as Diego and better defender than Chiellini. On form this Juventus side is better than Arsenals, but at the moment Arsenal are playing alot better than Juventus. However this could depend on alot of factors. Different leagues etc. Arsenal got the arses handed to them by Manchester City and beat by Manchester United, and that is the only two teams that is worth mentioning that you have came up against this season. Arsenal are a good squad but there not as good as Juventus mate.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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In know way am I underestimating Arsenal mate. I watch them alot in the Premier League. Arsenal do not have a good as Striker as Del Piero. Keeper as Buffon, Creative player as Diego and better defender than Chiellini. On form this Juventus side is better than Arsenals, but at the moment Arsenal are playing alot better than Juventus. However this could depend on alot of factors. Different leagues etc. Arsenal got the arses handed to them by Manchester City and beat by Manchester United, and that is the only two teams that is worth mentioning that you have came up against this season. Arsenal are a good squad but there not as good as Juventus mate.
We played against Fulham, Everton and Celtic away too. These are tough games and we managed to win them.

We did not get our arses handed to us by United. Are you sure you watched that game? We were all over them, and if it wasn't for the refs mistake in Rooney's penalty and Diaby's silly own goal, we might have even beat United at Old Trafford.

City was indeed a match where we got outplayed, the only match this season.


Fabregas is a much more creative player than Diego. No way is Diego's passing and vision as good as Fabregas.

As for Del Piero, on form he is indeed a great striker, but he's been plagued by injuries lately and at the age of 34 one just can't help but feel we will not see the old Alex anymore.
 

Nicholas

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Jan 30, 2008
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We played against Fulham, Everton and Celtic away too. These are tough games and we managed to win them.

We did not get our arses handed to us by United. Are you sure you watched that game? We were all over them, and if it wasn't for the refs mistake in Rooney's penalty and Diaby's silly own goal, we might have even beat United at Old Trafford.

City was indeed a match where we got outplayed, the only match this season.


Fabregas is a much more creative player than Diego. No way is Diego's passing and vision as good as Fabregas.

As for Del Piero, on form he is indeed a great striker, but he's been plagued by injuries lately and at the age of 34 one just can't help but feel we will not see the old Alex anymore.
Sorry it seems I could have explained my post better. I said you got your arses handed to you by Manchester City and beat by Manchester United. Diego's overall game is better than Fabregas in the final third.
 

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