Fernando Llorente - ST - Athletic Bilbao (60 Viewers)
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the sammer quote is several days old. the deal is basically done. it´s all over the german media and hoeness basically confirmed it and would look like an absolute fool if it fell apart...
bayern will pay the clause but martinez will earn less per year. imo they are just trying to talk down the fee with that but the deal is bound to happen.
last thing i´ve heard was that there are some last problems because of the taxes in spain (something with the clause...) but an official announcement is expected soon.
i agree with G on llorente. imo everything we are hearing from spain now is just a desperate effort to bring up the price. of course it would suck for them to lose two key players in the same transfer window but what´s the alternative? they can´t do shit about martinez and it´s not worth 20mio+ to keep llorente for another season, especially when he desperately wants out and is probably hated by the fans...
bayern will pay the clause but martinez will earn less per year. imo they are just trying to talk down the fee with that but the deal is bound to happen.
last thing i´ve heard was that there are some last problems because of the taxes in spain (something with the clause...) but an official announcement is expected soon.
i agree with G on llorente. imo everything we are hearing from spain now is just a desperate effort to bring up the price. of course it would suck for them to lose two key players in the same transfer window but what´s the alternative? they can´t do shit about martinez and it´s not worth 20mio+ to keep llorente for another season, especially when he desperately wants out and is probably hated by the fans...
Bayern Munich chairman Uli Hoeness hopes to complete a deal to sign Javi Martinez from Athletic Bilbao soon - but admits the fee is 'mad'.
The Spain international looks set to join the Bavarian giants for €40million (£31.5m) after they agreed to meet the release clause in the player's Athletic contract.
Although Hoeness insists the transfer is yet to be agreed, he is hopeful Bayern can get their man.
"I think we may find out in the next few days if this transfer is to happen or not," Hoeness told Deutsche Presseagentur.
"Nothing has been agreed yet. I would be delighted to see the deal go through."
The transfer is a significant one for Bayern but Hoeness is adamant the deal has been well thought out and that the club can afford the signing despite the astronomical fee involved.
He added: "If you look to find a player for a specified role and if you are always ending up at one specified player for this, then you need to come to a decision at some point.
"This demanded transfer fee is mad. You need to describe it that way.
"Economically we are able to do that deal. We have worked hard over decades to be in a position like this. So we would not need to hand it over to the bank loan department."
The Spain international looks set to join the Bavarian giants for €40million (£31.5m) after they agreed to meet the release clause in the player's Athletic contract.
Although Hoeness insists the transfer is yet to be agreed, he is hopeful Bayern can get their man.
"I think we may find out in the next few days if this transfer is to happen or not," Hoeness told Deutsche Presseagentur.
"Nothing has been agreed yet. I would be delighted to see the deal go through."
The transfer is a significant one for Bayern but Hoeness is adamant the deal has been well thought out and that the club can afford the signing despite the astronomical fee involved.
He added: "If you look to find a player for a specified role and if you are always ending up at one specified player for this, then you need to come to a decision at some point.
"This demanded transfer fee is mad. You need to describe it that way.
"Economically we are able to do that deal. We have worked hard over decades to be in a position like this. So we would not need to hand it over to the bank loan department."
that´s true... and why´s that? because we finished 7th twice in a row and had to spend big.
imo we did fine to strenghen our squad like we did to build a very solid team with quality and depth... but i can understand people criticizing us not having spent big on a target man (first).
and btw: i didn´t mean to say we are poor, i just wanted to make clear that bayern are fucking rich ^^
imo we did fine to strenghen our squad like we did to build a very solid team with quality and depth... but i can understand people criticizing us not having spent big on a target man (first).
and btw: i didn´t mean to say we are poor, i just wanted to make clear that bayern are fucking rich ^^
I don't know if Juve actually has money in the bank. I don't know much about Juve's finances, buy my impression is we heavily rely on Exor injections of cash for extraordinary costs like these last years'. But it's some kind of money which isn't guaranteed, I guess. If Exor faces big losses next year, maybe we won't have money to keep buying.
Sure. But the question arises, is it validated that we spend so big and still be incapable of signing a star, top player, champion?? Its a very serious question. A star player is a commodity that changes the entire outlook of the club as well as its projection to the outside world.
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And we shouldn't. Coz we buy practically 7-10 new players each season. I expect us to be in the Market for only a couple of players next season, unless hit by long term injuries. Can someone do a count of how many players we've bought since Marrotta's arrival? I think the no. is close to 30. That's a very unhealthy number, but I expect this revolution to be completed by next season and see stability and continuity for whoevr is part of the squad.
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And we shouldn't. Coz we buy practically 7-10 new players each season. I expect us to be in the Market for only a couple of players next season, unless hit by long term injuries. Can someone do a count of how many players we've bought since Marrotta's arrival? I think the no. is close to 30. That's a very unhealthy number, but I expect this revolution to be completed by next season and see stability and continuity for whoevr is part of the squad.
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There you go, bro. This was a revolution, because honestly, Juve went from being a veteran team at the start of 2009-2010 to an old one at the end of that season. Revolutions such as these do not happen in the course of one year, or even two. We, as Juventus fans, are quite fortunate that they were able to turn it around last year, but my belief in how this transfer market has taken place is as follows.
#1) Despite the fact that juve won the Scudetto last year and gained entrance into the Champions League, they did not have the depth to be able to compete on 3 fronts. This is what I feel Juve have gone a long way to rectifying this summer with Isla, Asamoah, Giovinco, Lucio, and Pogba. They could have very well just thrown caution to the wind and spent, say, 45 million on Cavani and neglected the areas of depth which needed strenghtening with quality players.
Do you know what probably would have happened this year if they did that?
They would have ended up like Napoli did last year, exhausted to the very end and faltering not only in CL, but in Serie A, where they will now lose countless amounts of money without that CL revenue. And if you notice, they have adopted the same transfer policy so far that Juve have. And that is to acquire depth. The good news for us Juventus fans is that although they are solid picups for Napoli, I don't feel that the level of quality in their acquisitions so far, match what Juve have done.
#2) In nearly every transfer market, the transfers of strikers is usually the most intense, and drawn out, negotiations in a transfer market. The amount of quality in those positions, for teams willing to sell in the first place, pales in comparison to the midfield and defence. Only now, have we seen the first true Domino to fall with RVP to United.
I have confidence that this board/ownership know full well that a CF is of the utmost priority. However, what they have done so far with their acquisitions has been of very good quality, especially with Asamoah, and once people get a look at a fit Isla, they will be very pleasantly surprised.
#1) Despite the fact that juve won the Scudetto last year and gained entrance into the Champions League, they did not have the depth to be able to compete on 3 fronts. This is what I feel Juve have gone a long way to rectifying this summer with Isla, Asamoah, Giovinco, Lucio, and Pogba. They could have very well just thrown caution to the wind and spent, say, 45 million on Cavani and neglected the areas of depth which needed strenghtening with quality players.
Do you know what probably would have happened this year if they did that?
They would have ended up like Napoli did last year, exhausted to the very end and faltering not only in CL, but in Serie A, where they will now lose countless amounts of money without that CL revenue. And if you notice, they have adopted the same transfer policy so far that Juve have. And that is to acquire depth. The good news for us Juventus fans is that although they are solid picups for Napoli, I don't feel that the level of quality in their acquisitions so far, match what Juve have done.
#2) In nearly every transfer market, the transfers of strikers is usually the most intense, and drawn out, negotiations in a transfer market. The amount of quality in those positions, for teams willing to sell in the first place, pales in comparison to the midfield and defence. Only now, have we seen the first true Domino to fall with RVP to United.
I have confidence that this board/ownership know full well that a CF is of the utmost priority. However, what they have done so far with their acquisitions has been of very good quality, especially with Asamoah, and once people get a look at a fit Isla, they will be very pleasantly surprised.
i don´t know if it is 
last season i was absolutely fine with it.
we had many departments to deal with and imo it was right to buy guys like licht, vidal and vucinic instead of splashing big on aguero or a similar top player. not to mention that nobody really knows how those negotiations really went... everybody just believes the part of the news he wants to believe.
imo it was right to distribute the weight on several shoulders because if we had bought this top player and he had gotten injured or anything like that the season would have been wasted. we played it safe and it worked out.
this season though, i can understand people raging about it, but:
i think asamoah was a must buy. no room for arguing there i guess. i´m also a big fan of the isla signing because he is a very versatile player who can cover a lot of position we are kinda "thin" at. arguing over the giovinco transfer seems pointless because it seems like their are only two types of people on this forum: lovers and haters.
so at least we haven´t really wasted money we could have used for a top striker.
long story short: imo it´s fine to act as we did IF we still manage to buy a very decent striker (e.g. llorente) and hopefully a LWB (e.g. armero). i would give this mercato 9/10 (selling not included. different story).
there will be plenty of time for overpaying for a top striker next year when we can handle it
last season i was absolutely fine with it.
we had many departments to deal with and imo it was right to buy guys like licht, vidal and vucinic instead of splashing big on aguero or a similar top player. not to mention that nobody really knows how those negotiations really went... everybody just believes the part of the news he wants to believe.
imo it was right to distribute the weight on several shoulders because if we had bought this top player and he had gotten injured or anything like that the season would have been wasted. we played it safe and it worked out.
this season though, i can understand people raging about it, but:
i think asamoah was a must buy. no room for arguing there i guess. i´m also a big fan of the isla signing because he is a very versatile player who can cover a lot of position we are kinda "thin" at. arguing over the giovinco transfer seems pointless because it seems like their are only two types of people on this forum: lovers and haters
. so at least we haven´t really wasted money we could have used for a top striker.
long story short: imo it´s fine to act as we did IF we still manage to buy a very decent striker (e.g. llorente) and hopefully a LWB (e.g. armero). i would give this mercato 9/10 (selling not included. different story).
there will be plenty of time for overpaying for a top striker next year when we can handle it
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