Fernando Llorente - ST - Athletic Bilbao (1 Viewer)

[frzl]

So we have FAILED to get him when we wanted and instead of bringing a high profile target in the summer, we will jusy settle with him and spend our transfer budget on more subs, yet again...

you are never happy, are you?

not very creative... i know

 

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[Jem83]

Especially the first one. It's unbelievable to complain when you get Llorente for free. But Cronios didn't disappoint.

 

[ZoSo]

Especially the first one. It's unbelievable to complain when you get Llorente for free. But Cronios didn't disappoint.

Even if we got Falcao right now he would still find something to troll about.

 

[-=DJANGO=-]

Not a bad signing if the reports are true, but not the next number 10 certainly. I am not sure which I should be happier about - signing him or getting rid of Iaquinta. At last ... and if Llorente truly means to us in Euro 700k per year + Iaquinta ... WOW!
Plus he is free and should be better than Matri/Quag. If we declined a 10m Zenit offer for Quag that ought to mean we have another idea about him - swap, maybe not Osvaldo, but De Rossi - just to feel the brother Zeman happy or another club where the players has a desire to make sacrifices and play... Matri must fetch 10m as well. Those two would bring us around 20M and add another ~4M hole into our budget. Maybe they do really plan a top forward in the summer. That changes a lot of things in terms of options.
Llorente, Vucinic, Giovinco, Immobile ... + 1? Who would you add? I'd go for Benzema if Falcao goes to Madrid.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

7mil would be enough and a competent manager would always find more options (player contracts, bonuses etc) signing with a 2 year delay is not an utter failure, as we still going to need him next year, but if we fail in the CL this year, because of a finisher option, like we did in copa last year, chances are that we will lose more than this 7mil investment (that would also help us secure the championship and maximise performance next year)

You know, when you're right - you're right.

And the above quoted, is as right as right can be.

You're right, Cronios.

 

[JuveJay]

7mil would be enough and a competent manager would always find more options (player contracts, bonuses etc) signing with a 2 year delay is not an utter failure, as we still going to need him next year, but if we fail in the CL this year, because of a finisher option, like we did in copa last year, chances are that we will lose more than this 7mil investment (that would also help us secure the championship and maximise performance next year)

Nope.

 

[Hydde]

That would be good. I just wanted to say his calculation is wrong as much as infamous cronculator people here like to mention, if not more.

I have to agreed with Turk here.
AHmed is comparing real money spend vs money that will never reach our accounts..... so it doesnt make sense,

 

[JuveJay]

I have to agreed with Turk here.
AHmed is comparing real money spend vs money that will never reach our accounts..... so it doesnt make sense,

The idea that you have to sell players to get value doesn't make sense.

 

[Klovn]

Nope.

What makes you sure they won't?

 

[JuveJay]

What makes you sure they won't?

Isn't that what they do? Isn't that what we've been told all along? They don't sell, they turned down €20m with -1 year, they will turn down €7m with -6 months. Free or buyout clause. No?

 

[Carlos Primera]

Marotta will up the offer before the close of January, 10 more days to go.

 

[Cronios]

Especially the first one. It's unbelievable to complain when you get Llorente for free. But Cronios didn't disappoint.

I am not complaining because we are getting him for free, i am complaining that we wasted 2 years without CF. Quite a difference there, i ve been saying this for years, but now it becomes obvious that thissummer was wasted and there never was a plan to get him now.
If there was a plan from the begining not to get him up until summer 2013, then we should secure another decent option for the mean time. Esp this year.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

El Rey Leoooonnnnnnnnnn!

 

[Klin]

I am not complaining because we are getting him for free, i am complaining that we wasted 2 years without CF. Quite a difference there, i ve been saying this for years, but now it becomes obvious that thissummer was wasted and there never was a plan to get him now.
If there was a plan from the begining not to get him up until summer 2013, then we should secure another decent option for the mean time. Esp this year.

So whatever the outcome is, you will still complain?

 

[Cronios]

So whatever the outcome is, you will still complain?

I wouldnt if we were getting what we needed, when we needed.
A year ago, we needed a finisher, but got a SS instead and then had to compromise by bringning Borriello.
A mistake that almost cost us the title and we lost the cup because of it.
Then we had a full summer to complete a deal.
Regardless of what we do in the future, we really wanted a decent option for this year.
But we only got Bendnter with the excuse that Marotta has the Llorente deal closed for the x-mas.

So we suffered yet half a season without a CF and now he fails again, not only to bring Llorente, but any other option as well.
And all we have is excuses excuses...

Llorente as a free transfer is a great transfer, but not on the expense of two years of waiting without any other decent option...
This is what i am talking about now, about the past 2 years, not what may or may not come in the future.
Llorente next year will be for next year, not the last one, nor this one.

 

[Jem83]

You know what, I think he's right.

 

[Trequartista]

I wouldnt if we were getting what we needed, when we needed.
A year ago, we needed a finisher, but got a SS instead and then had to compromise by bringning Borriello.
A mistake that almost cost us the title and we lost the cup because of it.
Then we had a full summer to complete a deal.
Regardless of what we do in the future, we really wanted a decent option for this year.
But we only got Bendnter with the excuse that Marotta has the Llorente deal closed for the x-mas.

So we suffered yet half a season without a CF and now he fails again, not only to bring Llorente, but any other option as well.
And all we have is excuses excuses...

Llorente as a free transfer is a great transfer, but not on the expense of two years of waiting without any other decent option...
This is what i am talking about now, about the past 2 years, not what may or may not come in the future.
Llorente next year will be for next year, not the last one, nor this one.

You're right, Cronios.

 

[Klin]

100% agreed there.

 

[Nzoric]

I wouldnt if we were getting what we needed, when we needed.
A year ago, we needed a finisher, but got a SS instead and then had to compromise by bringning Borriello.
A mistake that almost cost us the title and we lost the cup because of it.
Then we had a full summer to complete a deal.
Regardless of what we do in the future, we really wanted a decent option for this year.
But we only got Bendnter with the excuse that Marotta has the Llorente deal closed for the x-mas.

So we suffered yet half a season without a CF and now he fails again, not only to bring Llorente, but any other option as well.
And all we have is excuses excuses...

Llorente as a free transfer is a great transfer, but not on the expense of two years of waiting without any other decent option...
This is what i am talking about now, about the past 2 years, not what may or may not come in the future.
Llorente next year will be for next year, not the last one, nor this one.

I don't usually give you credit, but you really nailed it there

 

[Osman]

Cronios is spot on in that quote, and I'm serious, what he isnt spot on though is that he repeatedly cant differentiate seasons and years lol. Llorente isnt for next year, we are in 2013, he is for this year in the summer. Which is next season. Not to be pedantic, but just weird to repeat that little error.