Federico Chiesa (125 Viewers)

[Ronn]

There was surely a feud at least with his agent. That's why Hasa was sold too.

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Either way, it was not very classy of him to throw shade at the club the moment he leaves no matter how 'evil' or 'cutthroat' we believe an organization(in this case Jj management) can be

I guess this what separates your Chiesa's from true legends like Del Piero(who himself was discarded by the club)

He was silent throughout this saga and it's only fair he tells his side of the story.

 

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[Gigiventus]

Even players have effective PR teams too.

It was mishandled by all parties. No one is faultless here.

Didn't say that Chiesa is faultless. Large parts of the fanbase instead act like it's all Chiesa's fault and that Giuntoli was right to handle it this way.

It's the short team memory of sports fans.

Whatever Chiesa did for Juve is forgotten the moment a new narrative arrives. When Koopmeiners forces his way out of Atalanta he is praised because it benefits us, when Chiesa allegedly does it he is demonized instead. And he didn't even really do it, at least not so explicitly.

Koop forcing a move (nor something I actually oppose, players should be allowed to move on), Conceicao and Sancho having track records of much worse attitude, are in contrast of how Chiesa behaved at Juve.

The loyalty we expect of players is not returned to them.

 

[Seven]

Didn't say that Chiesa is faultless. Large parts of the fanbase instead act like it's all Chiesa's fault and that Giuntoli was right to handle it this way.

It's the short team memory of sports fans.

Whatever Chiesa did for Juve is forgotten the moment a new narrative arrives. When Koopmeiners forces his way out of Atalanta he is praised because it benefits us, when Chiesa allegedly does it he is demonized instead. And he didn't even really do it, at least not so explicitly.

Koop forcing a move (nor something I actually oppose, players should be allowed to move on), Conceicao and Sancho having track records of much worse attitude, are in contrast of how Chiesa behaved at Juve.

The loyalty we expect of players is not returned to them.

Nothing Chiesa allegedly would have done comes remotely close to the criminal activities Fagioli is guilty of.

Maybe, instead of chastising a player who is still recovering from a severe injury, we could focus on removing criminals from our club.

 

[Akshen]

I would go with the story that we got to know his demands for extension, analyzed with the coach how he wants to use him and decided that its not worth extending.

 

[Seven]

I would go with the story that we got to know his demands for extension, analyzed with the coach how he wants to use him and decided that its not worth extending.

Well, let's just believe Chiesa.

He says there was no extension offer from Juventus on the table. Whatever the reason might be, we didn't believe he was the right fit for this project. If we did, we would have offered an extension.

There's really not much more to say.

 

[Mohad]

Yeah right

Of course he's now trying to paint the club as the bad guys to save face.

Fuck off together with your pos agent you greedy cunt.

Welcome back!

 

[Mokku]

We will get Liverpool in the CL group because of this transfer

 

[Siamak]

Either way, it was not very classy of him to throw shade at the club the moment he leaves no matter how 'evil' or 'cutthroat' we believe an organization(in this case Jj management) can be

I guess this what separates your Chiesa's from true legends like Del Piero(who himself was discarded by the club)

But this one was a cruel, If it's true, Indeed it was juve who refused to extend his contract, so respect and he is allowed to make his choice for his career.

 

[Bjerknes]

They always do this.

Except Fagioli. JJ fans still love him.

Just imagine if Mckennie tore his acl, got banned due to betting, and came out to say if wasn't offered an extension.

Imagine the horror here!

 

[Seven]

Except Fagioli. JJ fans still love him.

Just imagine if Mckennie tore his acl, got banned due to betting, and came out to say if wasn't offered an extension.

Imagine the horror here!

Well, I despise Fagioli.

I can't remember if there has ever been a player I respected less. If I met him I'd spit in his face, but I'm afraid he might like it.

 

[Bjerknes]

Well, I despise Fagioli.

I can't remember if there has ever been a player I respected less. If I met him I'd spit in his face, but I'm afraid he might like it.

If you had to choose between Fagioli or Mason Greenwood, which one would you choose to spit on?

 

[iosono.bianconero]

Well knowing Giuntoli and Chiesa characters it's easy to know who is wrong here.

 

[Xperd]

There was surely a feud at least with his agent. That's why Hasa was sold too.

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He was silent throughout this saga and it's only fair he tells his side of the story.

Giuntoli is literally being demonized for supposedly spreading fake narratives to the media without any shred of evidence

How are we to believe Chiesa's side of the story is authentic when people have made up their mind on the evil 'Junktoli' sabotaging player relationships and turning fans against the player?

Even ignoring all of this unnecessary empty noise, in all likelihood, it comes down to simple economics. JJ wanted him to renew him on our terms or get his cost of the books, Chiesa felt he was worth more money at this stage of his career.

It's a disappointing end to his JJ stint but I guess both parties got what they wanted in the end.

 

[Seven]

If you had to choose between Fagioli or Mason Greenwood, which one would you choose to spit on?

Definitely Fagioli.

With Greenwood there are too many unknown factors. There's the girlfriend that retracted her statement, there's the prosecutor who decided not to go ahead with the case. At first glance the tape sounds like strong evidence. But I've been a lawyer long enough to know that these things might surprise you. And apparently the people who did have all the facts, decided not to prosecute.

Fagioli on the other hand is guilty as fuck, got heavily involved with the mafia, cried like a bitch for help and ratted out his friends. There can be no mercy for someone like that. The motherfucker even bitched how hard his life was, while Juventus paid off his debts to the mafia.

 

[Bjerknes]

Definitely Fagioli.

With Greenwood there are too many unknown factors. There's the girlfriend that retracted her statement, there's the prosecutor who decided not to go ahead with the case. At first glance the tape sounds like strong evidence. But I've been a lawyer long enough to know that these things might surprise you. And apparently the people who did have all the facts, decided not to prosecute.

Fagioli on the other hand is guilty as fuck, got heavily involved with the mafia, cried like a bitch for help and ratted out his friends. There can be no mercy for someone like that. The motherfucker even bitched how hard his life was, while Juventus paid off his debts to the mafia.

And then got a raise after it!

 

[Seven]

And then got a raise after it!

And got selected for Euro 2024, despite not having played all season.

He could probably teach Riley Reid a thing or two.

 

[Ronn]

Giuntoli is literally being demonized for supposedly spreading fake narratives to the media without any shred of evidence

How are we to believe Chiesa's side of the story is authentic when people have made up their mind on the evil 'Junktoli' sabotaging player relationships and turning fans against the player?

Even ignoring all of this unnecessary empty noise, in all likelihood, it comes down to simple economics. JJ wanted him to renew him on our terms or get his cost of the books, Chiesa felt he was worth more money at this stage of his career.

It's a disappointing end to his JJ stint but I guess both parties got what they wanted in the end.

He can still tells his side. You can choose to believe it or not.
I wouldn't go so far as demonizing Giuntoli, but I never believed that Motta kicked him out. I think his salary request along with his agent's demands for renewal led to the relationship being completely broken. He still is right that he was not offered a renewal.
Hasa being sold at the end also indicate that we had a problem with his agent mostly.

 

[Xperd]

They always do this.

They don't. It's typical emotional reaction of football fans towards an outgoing player.

When things cool down, Chiesa will be remembered as one of the few decent players we had in a dark era for JJ.

 

[Alin]

There’s no smoke without fire, perhaps no renewal was offered this summer but there might have been preliminary talks throughout last season/last year with his agent that probably already clarified everything we needed to know and ultimately decided to move him on instead…

Still feel that the plan was never to lose him this cheap though, but we got desperate to force him out and everyone else lowballed us due to it.

 

[U Picciriddu]

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