Federico Chiesa (113 Viewers)

RKid1

Senior Member
Jun 29, 2020
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Current team vs historically. They usually pillage every domestic team for talent. They did this to Dortmund a while ago. They have no competition domestically. Financially other teams in the league are far behind.
Juve fans love living in the past.

"Bayern have no competition because they buy all the top players from their competition in the league"

"Who? What players?"

"Well, not now or in recent years, but in the past."

I wonder what Moggi thinks of all of this, and how he would handle it.
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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For Bayern, or in general?

Because if we're being honest, so is every team in Serie A (and most leagues for that matter).
The argument are comparing Juve and Bayern. The point is the whole Italy Football in both National and Club level are in crisis in all aspects procuding talent, financial condition, etc.
Once we were the leader of Serie A and Juve was in the same line as Bayern was/are in Bundesliga ,We were on top for a very long time. all Serie A clubs were feeders so all ramped up their play to force Juventus down. We have been crumbling since covid but Bayern have managed to keep their status and they are still on the top. Except Inter(at the moment) other Serie A Clubs are the bitch of Giant Clubs.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
23,990
Juve fans love living in the past.

"Bayern have no competition because they buy all the top players from their competition in the league"

"Who? What players?"

"Well, not now or in recent years, but in the past."

I wonder what Moggi thinks of all of this, and how he would handle it.
Bayern earned more than the next 2 richest clubs in Germany combined for 2023, Dortmund and Eintracht. We are not in this position in Italy. The gap is nowhere as big in terms of finances
 

RKid1

Senior Member
Jun 29, 2020
811
I have no clue what point you're trying to make to be honest. And I'm not trying to be a dick. I just kind of lost track of what point we're all even trying to make.

I know Bayern are a super power in Germany & Europe, and that Juve (or any Serie A club) are not at their level. I can say that about every club outside of like City, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Barca, PSG, etc. We were at that level 5-10 years ago.

If those clubs come calling, players will probably want to join them or at least strongly consider it.

But again, I'm lost at what we're arguing here.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
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I have no clue what point you're trying to make to be honest. And I'm not trying to be a dick. I just kind of lost track of what point we're all even trying to make.

I know Bayern are a super power in Germany & Europe, and that Juve (or any Serie A club) are not at their level. I can say that about every club outside of like City, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Barca, PSG, etc. We were at that level 5-10 years ago.

If those clubs come calling, players will probably want to join them or at least strongly consider it.

But again, I'm lost at what we're arguing here.
You practically showed how rich clubs in a better financial situation than Juve treat their players better , while Juve , who lost North of 100 million for the past 3 years , treats players that don't want to leave like shit , in our quest to reduce the wage bill .
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
23,990
I love how everyone ignores this to put on the big machismo act. Who the fuck would ever want to sign for a club that conducts itself like that? Delusion.
Rabiot was a better player over the last 2 seasons than Chiesa. We didnt offer him a salary he was asking for and we let him go. The same approach we used with Chiesa. But since he has a contract, we cannot let him go, instead he is transfer listed. Were we wrong to let Rabiot leave?
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,782
Rabiot was a better player over the last 2 seasons than Chiesa. We didnt offer him a salary he was asking for and we let him go. The same approach we used with Chiesa. But since he has a contract, we cannot let him go, instead he is transfer listed. Were we wrong to let Rabiot leave?
Would you want to sign for Juventus?
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,831
I love how everyone ignores this to put on the big machismo act. Who the fuck would ever want to sign for a club that conducts itself like that? Delusion.
Why not? Many players would see this as an opportunity to play for a big club regardless of how they 'conduct'.

The delusion is with Tuz fans who have no middle ground. Calling this team like a 'Nazi like club' because they have frozen out players who have been trash? Give me a break.

I am not a huge fan of our strategy this summer but some of you are really going overboard.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,831
I love how the narrative changes. First it was “ruined by Allegri” but now he’s just “trash”. Seems like Tuz can’t escape throaters.
We're also talking about the other 7-8 insignificant players who have been frozen out due to contract disputes but please feel free to choose your narrative
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,004
I love how the narrative changes. First it was “ruined by Allegri” but now he’s just “trash”. Seems like Tuz can’t escape throaters.
"Ruined by Allegri" always was, is and will be nonsense. Cockblocked by the absence of a decent midfield, maybe.
 
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