Federico Bernardeschi - AM RLC - Fiorentina (29 Viewers)

[NitK]

He isn't coming. This will drag on the entire summer, without resolution.

The resolution will be "Fio couldn't agree a price, so we got DeSciglio"

 

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[pitbull]

He isn't coming. This will drag on the entire summer, without resolution.

I have that feeling too, I expect that we don't have the necessary funds for him so would need to include our deadwood in the deal or sell it elsewhere. I can see us successfully selling Lemina, but not Sturaro or Rincon

 

[Hydde]

I have that feeling too, I expect that we don't have the necessary funds for him so would need to include our deadwood in the deal or sell it elsewhere. I can see us successfully selling Lemina, but not Sturaro or Rincon

That would be difficult to believe after getting douglas loaned for 6 mils and no more buys other than schick and the higuain 45 mils.

 

[ZoSo]

how much?

 

[pitbull]

That would be difficult to believe after getting douglas loaned for 6 mils and no more buys other than schick and the higuain 45 mils.

Benatia? Bentancur? Cuadrado?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

The resolution will be "Fio couldn't agree a price, so we got DeSciglio"

One has nothing to do with the other. Berna will be here hopefully all done by the 17th

 

[Roman]

Corvino arrived in Milan and having a meeting with Bozzo(Bernas agent) now.
Working on finding the middle ground between our offer and their demands to close this deal in the next few days.

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One has nothing to do with the other. Berna will be here hopefully all done by the 17th

 

[il brutto]

Benatia? Bentancur? Cuadrado?

Coman? Zaza?

 

[pitbull]

Coman? Zaza?

Yeah, our sales combined are around 40m while money spent this summer is over 120m if I'm right. With starting Rb and Cm still to be found I agree that might not brong Berna because of lack of funds

 

[il brutto]

Yeah, our sales combined are around 40m while money spent this summer is over 120m if I'm right. With starting Rb and Cm still to be found I agree that might not brong Berna because of lack of funds

How the heck did you come up with that number? We have barely spent anything thus far.

 

[Gagi]

Installments for Dybs and Higs and more. Probably. I dunno.

 

[JuveJay]

Yeah, our sales combined are around 40m while money spent this summer is over 120m if I'm right. With starting Rb and Cm still to be found I agree that might not brong Berna because of lack of funds

IN

21/04 Rodrigo Bentancur, URU, MC, 1997 (Boca Juniors) €9.5m + bonuses
12/05 Medhi Benatia, MOR, DC, 1987 (Bayern Munich) €17m (option to buy exercised)
22/05 Juan Cuadrado, COL, MR, 1988 (Chelsea) €20m (option to buy exercised)
07/07 Manolo Portanova, ITA, MC, 2000 (Lazio) undisclosed

Total: €46.5m


OUT

Simone Zaza (Valencia, ESP) €16m
Marcelo Djaló (CD Lugo, ESP) €0
Nico Hidalgo (Cádiz CF, ESP) €0
Younes Bnou Marzouk (Lugano, SUI) €0.4m
Anastasios Donis (VfB Stuttgart, GER) €4m
Neto (Valencia, ESP) €7m (+€2m potential bonuses)

Released
Paolo De Ceglie (expired)
Francesco Anacoura (expired)
Elvis Kabashi (expired)
Michele Cavion (expired)
Dani Alves (mutual consent)

Total: €27.4m

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Obviously Schick would add another €30.5m. Douglas Costa looks like an option to buy in two year's time.

 

[il brutto]

Installments for Dybs and Higs and more. Probably. I dunno.

Yeah but if we start doing this by installments it gets a bit more complicated. For example Cuadrado's fee will be paid over three years and Benatia's over two years. I'm sure there are some older transfers that other clubs still need to pay for us too.

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IN

21/04 Rodrigo Bentancur, URU, MC, 1997 (Boca Juniors) €9.5m + bonuses
12/05 Medhi Benatia, MOR, DC, 1987 (Bayern Munich) €17m (option to buy exercised)
22/05 Juan Cuadrado, COL, MR, 1988 (Chelsea) €20m (option to buy exercised)
07/07 Manolo Portanova, ITA, MC, 2000 (Lazio) undisclosed

Total: €46.5m


OUT

Simone Zaza (Valencia, ESP) €16m
Marcelo Djaló (CD Lugo, ESP) €0
Nico Hidalgo (Cádiz CF, ESP) €0
Younes Bnou Marzouk (Lugano, SUI) €0.4m
Anastasios Donis (VfB Stuttgart, GER) €4m
Neto (Valencia, ESP) €7m (+€2m potential bonuses)

Released
Paolo De Ceglie (expired)
Francesco Anacoura (expired)
Elvis Kabashi (expired)
Michele Cavion (expired)
Dani Alves (mutual consent)

Total: €27.4m

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Obviously Schick would add another €30.5m. Douglas Costa looks like an option to buy in two year's time.

Missed Coman.

 

[Roman]

IN

21/04 Rodrigo Bentancur, URU, MC, 1997 (Boca Juniors) €9.5m + bonuses
12/05 Medhi Benatia, MOR, DC, 1987 (Bayern Munich) €17m (option to buy exercised)
22/05 Juan Cuadrado, COL, MR, 1988 (Chelsea) €20m (option to buy exercised)
07/07 Manolo Portanova, ITA, MC, 2000 (Lazio) undisclosed

Total: €46.5m


OUT

Simone Zaza (Valencia, ESP) €16m
Marcelo Djaló (CD Lugo, ESP) €0
Nico Hidalgo (Cádiz CF, ESP) €0
Younes Bnou Marzouk (Lugano, SUI) €0.4m
Anastasios Donis (VfB Stuttgart, GER) €4m
Neto (Valencia, ESP) €7m (+€2m potential bonuses)

Released
Paolo De Ceglie (expired)
Francesco Anacoura (expired)
Elvis Kabashi (expired)
Michele Cavion (expired)
Dani Alves (mutual consent)

Total: €27.4m

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Obviously Schick would add another €30.5m. Douglas Costa looks like an option to buy in two year's time.

 

[pitbull]

Yeah but if we start doing this by installments it gets a bit more complicated. For example Cuadrado's fee will be paid over three years and Benatia's over two years. I'm sure there are some older transfers that other clubs still need to pay for us too.

Missed Coman.

I agree that it's complicated, but I'm pretty sure that our agreements from the past add a lot more in the spend column than in the incoming cash column.

I'm just arguing against the view "we've spent just 6m on Costa's loan and have a 1/4 of Schick fee to cover this mercato, we are still going to spend a lot". we also have heavy obligations from the past which we need to honor, heaviest of them all Higuain 45m.

 

[ridenko]

what about pogba ?

 

[il brutto]

I agree that it's complicated, but I'm pretty sure that our agreements from the past add a lot more in the spend column than in the incoming cash column.

I'm just arguing against the view "we've spent just 6m on Costa's loan and have a 1/4 of Schick fee to cover this mercato, we are still going to spend a lot". we also have heavy obligations from the past which we need to honor, heaviest of them all Higuain 45m.

The Pogba fee for example will be paid in two financial years. So big money still coming from United for that.

 

[JuveJay]

Missed Coman.

I missed Zaza originally as well. I suppose these count towards our 'summer' work.

So we're basically even for our spending on new deals this summer. Pogba balances out Higuain. I think we're in a good financial position.

 

[pitbull]

2017 amounts to be payed:
Zaza - 6
Cuadrado - 7
Benatia - 8.5
Bentancur - 10
Higuain - 45
Pjaca - 11.5
Lemina - 2.5
Caldara - 5
Sandro - 9
Dybala - 10
Mandžukič - 6
Pereyra - 5
Hernanes - 4
Mandragora - 2
Total: 131.5m euros

Too tired to do the incoming payments, maybe someone else could do them, basically I just went over our incoming transfers of the last few years and found in juventus.com press release the transfer fee and how it will be payed. Of course I rounded up and also made a judgement call on whether a player did enough to earn his former employee bonuses or not Also not sure which of those payments we make in january and which in june. Costa and Schick are yet to be announced.

 

[Wittl]

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