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AngelaL

Jinx Minx
Aug 25, 2006
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Maresca said:
wtf is zeman this sob thinking.. for a team like juve it is punishment enough to be dropped to B. Actualy the point penalty is too much.
Zeman should shut up and go back to czech republic.
:agree:, but they wouldn't take him back!:)
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
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Zdenek-"the loser"-Zeman feel it now, it hurts doesnt it?
his club was sunk and is going down once again,
we can chance our drugged players and or paid refs for a million times, but things will never change,
he cannot follow Juve's rythm, he never could, he never will,
he just doesnt have what it takes...
he sould quit coaching some time ago, his comments is the only thing giving him a purpose of existense, the ones who backs him and gives him the right to be where he is and say what he is, are possible the ones responsable for our current "situation"...
 

AngelaL

Jinx Minx
Aug 25, 2006
10,215
Cronios said:
Zdenek-"the looser"-Zeman feel it now, it hurts doesnt it?
his club was sunk and is going down once again,
we can chance our drugged players and or paid refs for a million times, but things will never change,
he cannot follow Juve's rythm, he never could, he never will,
he just doesnt have what it takes...
he sould quit coaching some time ago, his comments is the only thing giving him a purpose of existense,
the one who backs him and gives him the right to be where he is and say what he is possible the one responsable for our current "situation"...
You're right. He moves from one team to another because he's always getting sacked. He's a loser & should have given up long ago. No-one would take any notice of him, if he did not keep criticising/accusing Juve, & even then, they only pay attention to him, because it is Juve he's talking about.
 

ZAF3000

Senior Member
Feb 14, 2005
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Michael_Cutajar said:
Zeman slams Juve discount
Sunday 29 October, 2006
Zdenek Zeman reacted angrily to the Calciopoli appeal verdicts, claiming the Serie B season has been "falsified" by Juventus' discount.

The CONI Arbitration cut Juve’s penalty from 17 points to nine on Friday evening after accepting that the club had removed those directors responsible for the scandal.

“With the cuts to those penalties, the Serie B Championship has been falsified. The extra points handed to Juve prove that things will never change,” said the Lecce Coach.

In the top flight, Lazio’s 11-point handicap was reduced to just three, Fiorentina went from –19 to –15 and Milan’s eight-point penalty was confirmed.

“At least the Second Division is a very difficult League and Juve will have to struggle hard in any case to earn promotion.”

Zeman has always been the Bianconeri’s most outspoken critic, as his comments on the muscular development of some of their players prompted the long-running investigation into Juve’s medical staff.

He also suggested that disgraced director general Luciano Moggi had some power over referees long before this summer’s shock telephone interceptions revealed pressure on the authorities.

Ironically, the change to Juve’s status puts them in direct competition with Zeman’s Lecce for promotion to Serie A.

Didier Deschamps’ men have won seven on the trot to climb up to 10th place on 13 points, while the Salentini are two spots down on 11.

“We started well against Triestina, hitting the woodwork and taking the lead early on,” Zeman said of the 2-2 draw.

“However, as soon as we conceded the first goal, we lost control of the tempo and our heads. Our most serious problem is that we never manage to hold on to a lead. We’re not focused enough and must improve this at all costs if we are to aim for the top flight.”

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This guy can't be serious, now is he? I bet if we hadn't got the penatly reduced and in a couple of games over took his team he would have come out with a statement in the same line as "Juve should've been handed a penatly more than -17, everything is fasilitated for Juve its obvious"..

What a loser.
It rekon he is one of those waiting every night for a phone call from Juve management saying we would like to hire you. And he never got this call. This is the only explanation.
 

Mike-e-y

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Jul 18, 2004
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Italy's Berlusconi and Mills charged with corruption Monday October 30, 05:19 PM

MILAN (Reuters) - Former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and lawyer David Mills have been ordered to stand trial on corruption charges, a lawyer for Berlusconi said on Monday.

Milan magistrates had accused Berlusconi of paying Mills, who is the estranged husband of Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell, a kickback for not revealing details of Berlusconi's media empire when he testified in two court cases.

Judge Fabio Paparella on Monday ordered both Berlusconi and Mills to stand trial following preliminary hearings that started earlier this year. With the judge's order the two men were officially charged with corruption.
"They have been ordered to stand trial on corruption charges," Berlusconi's lawyer Nicolo Ghedini told Reuters.

Both Berlusconi and Mills have denied the public prosecutor's allegations that Berlusconi paid Mills the kickback in 1997.

The alleged crime carries a possible jail sentence of three to eight years. Italy's statute of limitations -- reduced under Berlusconi's government before the centre right lost elections in April -- means he could not be prosecuted on this count if the case stretched to 2008.

Mediaset, the publishing and broadcasting empire owned by the former prime minister, had no immediate comment.

Berlusconi and Mills are already standing trial with 12 others in a related case over allegations of fraud at Mediaset.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/30102006/325/italy-s-berlusconi-mills-charged-corruption.html
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I wonder what else he's capable of.......
 

d.nico

Senior Member
Apr 23, 2003
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Philipp00 said:
Seeing berlusconi in prison would be great. he made his own laws in the last years without which he would have already been in prison for years.
:agree:
It's like wiping all sadness that we felt because of this fvcking scandal.

Adding bankruption to Moratti and we are going to heaven. :pint:
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
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Italian soap opera still isn't finished

Did Inter set up
corruption probe?


After the scandal to end all scandals and a World Cup victory, one presumed Italian soccer might coast into the end of 2006. But Europe's most soccer-obsessed nation continues to throw up more fantastic storylines than a Jose Mourinho press conference.

First, the endless soap opera surrounding calciopoli (soccer corruption) is over. Almost. After six months, one verdict and two appeals, Italy's top sports body handed down its final judgment this past weekend. Juventus, the team at the heart of the match-fixing cabal, has seen its punishment go from disastrous (relegation and a 30-point deduction) to dicey (relegation and a 17-point deduction) to doable (relegation and a nine-point deduction). Eight games in and without a defeat, the bianconeri look like a lock to return to Serie A next season. The other malfeasants — Milan, Fiorentina, Lazio and Reggina — have also seen their punishments substantially reduced.

One last, delicious wrinkle was provided in the days before the final decision. The bulk of the evidence used to indict all the main offenders was an extensive catalogue of phone wiretaps obtained by police during an unrelated criminal investigation connected to Juventus officials. At least, that's what we thought.

In fact, many of the wiretaps may have been provided by the phone company, Telecom Italia. For reasons that are obscure, Telecom Italia began taping some of the scandal's key players months before the police became involved. If you're a conspiracy minded sort, you'll be shocked — shocked! — to learn that Telecom Italia is a part owner of Inter Milan football club. Also, Inter hired a private eye to tail referee Massimo De Sanctis, later tapped as one of the scandal's main figures.

This has Juventus fans howling that the whole thing was a set-up designed by Inter. There will be yet another inquiry, but Italian officials have wisely declared that the statute of limitations on any alleged wrongdoing by Inter has now passed.

The one plain fact is that Inter was the singular beneficiary of the entire mess. Their top competition was hobbled. They feasted on the priced-to-clear remains of less fortunate clubs. Most pundits ceded the scudetto to them before a ball was kicked.

Hometown rivals Milan, penalized eight points, cockily assured fans they could wipe out the difference. "Win two derbies and we're almost back level," Milan's Kaka computed. After some astute off-season moves, Roma also looked strong enough to challenge.

But Inter's been put under real pressure by the giant killers from Palermo. The rosanero (pink-blacks) have never won Serie A. No Sicilian team has. But Palermo currently share the league lead with Inter and look to be gaining confidence with each match. Two weeks ago, they beat Milan at the San Siro for the first time in their history. Last weekend, they swept past Fiorentina in a 3-2 thriller.

The southerners' surprising run has been sparked by unheralded Brazilian Amauri. The 26-year-old forward was involved in all three goals against Fiorentina. After four quiet seasons at Chievo Verona, Amauri was scooped by Palermo this summer.

With the uncapped Brazilian due to receive an Italian passport in a few months time, the two soccer powers have begun jostling for his services. So far, Amauri's doing the smart thing — concentrating on scoring goals. He won't say what he plans.

The only low note being sounded in Italy right now is attendance. Serie A stadiums are drawing, on average, less than 20,000 fans to a game. Stands have not been so empty in nearly 40 years.

There are several theories for the drop-off: continued disillusionment after the scandal, a World Cup hangover, the growing influence of hooligans. Maybe the truth is that fans have realized that while they're stuck in a soccer stadium, another jaw-dropping soccer story is being broken in the papers or on TV.

TheStar.com
 

ZAF3000

Senior Member
Feb 14, 2005
5,348
mark83 said:
Did Inter set up
corruption probe?
And your answer is:

mark83 said:
In fact, many of the wiretaps may have been provided by the phone company, Telecom Italia. For reasons that are obscure, Telecom Italia began taping some of the scandal's key players months before the police became involved. If you're a conspiracy minded sort, you'll be shocked — shocked! — to learn that Telecom Italia is a part owner of Inter Milan football club. Also, Inter hired a private eye to tail referee Massimo De Sanctis, later tapped as one of the scandal's main figures.

This has Juventus fans howling that the whole thing was a set-up designed by Inter. There will be yet another inquiry, but Italian officials have wisely declared that the statute of limitations on any alleged wrongdoing by Inter has now passed.

The one plain fact is that Inter was the singular beneficiary of the entire mess.



Another question:

mark83 said:
The only low note being sounded in Italy right now is attendance. Serie A stadiums are drawing, on average, less than 20,000 fans to a game. Stands have not been so empty in nearly 40 years.

There are several theories for the drop-off: continued disillusionment after the scandal, a World Cup hangover, the growing influence of hooligans. Maybe the truth is that fans have realized that while they're stuck in a soccer stadium, another jaw-dropping soccer story is being broken in the papers or on TV.
The Answer is: Juventus FC playing in Serie B.
 
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