Fabio Paratici (16 Viewers)
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I was thinking to myself for years that people didn't judge Paratici and Marotta fairly. Season after season I read comments hating and making fun of Beppe, while almost everybody loved Paratici when he was in working in the shadows, even missing the part about him rating Jorge Martinez very highly. It was pretty straightforward for the folks as Fabio seemed cool, almost didn't give out interviews and was rated highly in some reports. Meanwhile, as he stepped into the scene as the frontman, it seems he is critised even more then his mentor.
If that's the end of Paratici here, it seems that he wasn't that different from Beppe or Agnelli stoped forgiving mistakes. If he really pressed for Sarri, that sure was a big slip. I am still always hesitating to comment on directors in person, as the ordinary fan in most cases will simply never know who really is most responsible for given decision. Neverthelss, everyone can see that few things went terrible bad.
Whatever Agnelli will put in charge - Paratici, Cherubini or someone else - the goal should be clear and that is rejuvenation. We don't have one of the oldest teams in Europe, we have oldest team in 100 most valued clubs by transfermarkt. And this thing was postponed year after year, so now we are blocked by high wages and no offerrs for our players. Most of you know the huge numbers we pay for players that are playing nowhere near the level that their salaries would indicate. Well, this bunch in many cases have less motivation and energy then Atalanta players that are playing for peanuts. Whatever our plan was on sporting level, with buying for example Higuain, Ronaldo (not judging commercial effects) and Bonucci - it sure didn't work out in Europe.
The worst part of whole situation - we made it so difficult to change things around, that as much even club wants to bounce back, I don't really expect much positive change after this market.
If that's the end of Paratici here, it seems that he wasn't that different from Beppe or Agnelli stoped forgiving mistakes. If he really pressed for Sarri, that sure was a big slip. I am still always hesitating to comment on directors in person, as the ordinary fan in most cases will simply never know who really is most responsible for given decision. Neverthelss, everyone can see that few things went terrible bad.
Whatever Agnelli will put in charge - Paratici, Cherubini or someone else - the goal should be clear and that is rejuvenation. We don't have one of the oldest teams in Europe, we have oldest team in 100 most valued clubs by transfermarkt. And this thing was postponed year after year, so now we are blocked by high wages and no offerrs for our players. Most of you know the huge numbers we pay for players that are playing nowhere near the level that their salaries would indicate. Well, this bunch in many cases have less motivation and energy then Atalanta players that are playing for peanuts. Whatever our plan was on sporting level, with buying for example Higuain, Ronaldo (not judging commercial effects) and Bonucci - it sure didn't work out in Europe.
The worst part of whole situation - we made it so difficult to change things around, that as much even club wants to bounce back, I don't really expect much positive change after this market.
We are quite an old team but ew have gotten younger over the past few seasons. Our starting 11 isnt terrbly old this upcoming season. and we have replaced a few of the old ones already.
Who is over 30 in our starting 11? Ronaldo,Cuads and Bonucci?
The issue is our deadwood players which needs to be solved
Who is over 30 in our starting 11? Ronaldo,Cuads and Bonucci?
The issue is our deadwood players which needs to be solved
Paratici and Cherubini both work in the sporting sector so I'm not sure how this is expected to work. With Marotta there was a defined financial-sporting separation in their latter years together, with Marotta still having his knowledge and contacts in the mercato.
All I can see is that it becomes a more shared responsibility rather than everything falling on Paratici's shoulders to make technical choices and only having Nedved as a sounding board.
Ultimately Nedved is learning the ropes, he doesn't have years doing the job like those two do, so he shouldn't be making crucial decisions. This is a big mercato, it reminds me in some ways of the 2011 setting, so the more qualified people the better.
Still, coaches and signings are always a calculated gamble. Most seem somewhere between happy and intrigued with Pirlo's appointment, but if it goes wrong it will be another awful decision and so on, that's just the way it works.
All I can see is that it becomes a more shared responsibility rather than everything falling on Paratici's shoulders to make technical choices and only having Nedved as a sounding board.
Ultimately Nedved is learning the ropes, he doesn't have years doing the job like those two do, so he shouldn't be making crucial decisions. This is a big mercato, it reminds me in some ways of the 2011 setting, so the more qualified people the better.
Still, coaches and signings are always a calculated gamble. Most seem somewhere between happy and intrigued with Pirlo's appointment, but if it goes wrong it will be another awful decision and so on, that's just the way it works.
Sorry bro but our wheel chair is going to start to go down when we stop winning Seria A .
Even this year with our bozo coach we could have still done the double.
Let's hope pirlo improves things , because with Max we would have been champions by round 33 and probably won the cup, so ,no the squad is far from done.
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Even this year with our bozo coach we could have still done the double.
Let's hope pirlo improves things , because with Max we would have been champions by round 33 and probably won the cup, so ,no the squad is far from done.
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Try there.
Or here if you know Italian.
https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2020/08/17/budget-mercato-juventus/
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My opinion is that Marotta is largely responsible for the mess we are in.
Higuain: We had our hands on 75m euros from the Pogba sale and instead of reinvesting it in players that have a resale value, we committed to spend 169m (94m + 15mx5) on a 28 year old. Any moron could have told you that this was going to end badly for Juve. At best he was going to have 2 solid seasons and then would start to decline. We pissed away the money and now can't make any moves in the market cos of his salary and the payments to Napoli. We had to give Milan a discount on Caldara and took Bonucci back just to convince them to pay Higuain's salary for 6 months.
Vidal: We should have never sold him. I don't care if he crashed his car. Fine him, send him to AA, have him do some community service and move on. He was vital to our squad.
Khedira: In fall of 2018, he was 31 years old on a 12m (6m net) salary. Do you think Khedira had any leverage whatsoever? Do you think another club would have offered him another deal anywhere close to what he was earning? What did Marotta do? He extended him for 3+1 years knowing he had a very bad history with injuries at the same exact salary. Now we are stuck with his salary and can't make any moves because of him.
Replacing MVPP: To this day we are still struggling to find a player like Vidal or Pogba. The list of cheap and mediocre players we signed to replace the once great midfield we had include:
Marotta was extremely lucky that we had such an intelligent manager in Allegri who could turn any player you gave him into what resembled a functional team. Allegri had his own issues after the Cardiff final and was never the same. He took less risks and his football was becoming stale. It was time for a change.
Higuain: We had our hands on 75m euros from the Pogba sale and instead of reinvesting it in players that have a resale value, we committed to spend 169m (94m + 15mx5) on a 28 year old. Any moron could have told you that this was going to end badly for Juve. At best he was going to have 2 solid seasons and then would start to decline. We pissed away the money and now can't make any moves in the market cos of his salary and the payments to Napoli. We had to give Milan a discount on Caldara and took Bonucci back just to convince them to pay Higuain's salary for 6 months.
Vidal: We should have never sold him. I don't care if he crashed his car. Fine him, send him to AA, have him do some community service and move on. He was vital to our squad.
Khedira: In fall of 2018, he was 31 years old on a 12m (6m net) salary. Do you think Khedira had any leverage whatsoever? Do you think another club would have offered him another deal anywhere close to what he was earning? What did Marotta do? He extended him for 3+1 years knowing he had a very bad history with injuries at the same exact salary. Now we are stuck with his salary and can't make any moves because of him.
Replacing MVPP: To this day we are still struggling to find a player like Vidal or Pogba. The list of cheap and mediocre players we signed to replace the once great midfield we had include:
- Khedira
- Hernanes
- Rincon
- Lemina
- Matuidi
- Emre Can
Marotta was extremely lucky that we had such an intelligent manager in Allegri who could turn any player you gave him into what resembled a functional team. Allegri had his own issues after the Cardiff final and was never the same. He took less risks and his football was becoming stale. It was time for a change.
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You make a lot of sense, just a correction. We sold them Bonucci in 2017 and took MdS for 12M (to replace Dani Alves, the guy who was our MVP in the CL knockouts). In 2018, we wanted them to take Higgy, which they couldnt since Bonucci was too expensive (8M net wages and high yearly cost due to 40M(?) transfer fee they paid us a year ago). He was also a flop for them. So we took Bonucci back, making room for Higuain, who they returned 6 months later. And they got Caldara cheap (injuries made it look like a bad move in hindsight). Giving them all those favors and not making sure Higuains loan was with an obligation to buy (2018, unlike now, he still held value, coming off a almost 25 goals season), was stupid as fuck. Almost as bad a deal as paying 90M for him 2 years prior
