Fabio Paratici (25 Viewers)

[kappa96]

The President is still the same, the Vice President is still the same, the number two guy is know the number one guy, and the old number one guy is currently in Inter trying to get Lukaku and a 40year old Dzeko.

You are entitled to your opinion, but IMO the current management has earned our respect, and I will support them until proven otherwise.

Mastermind move by beppe.Going from icardi to dzeko is like going from dybala to lukaku but worse ,yet paratici is dumb while beppe is a genius.The argument is enforced that somehow beppe is after lukaku too, but he doesn't want shell out the cash, still hoping that we take icardi from him to resolve his problems.

 

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[DAiDEViL]

The President is still the same, the Vice President is still the same, the number two guy is know the number one guy, and the old number one guy is currently in Inter trying to get Lukaku and a 40year old Dzeko.

And? Yet another user who doesn't seem to understand that Inter and Juve are not on the same level. A good transfer for Inter doesn't necessarily have to be a good transfer for Juve and vice versa.

 

[DS8_Montero]

Guys, everyone has the right to have their own opinion. Tuz is not some kind of a sect where everyone must have the same set of values and thoughts, and praise the club no matter what.

If you disagree with someone's opinion, it doesn't mean that it gives you the upper hand in your position, so all kinds of indirect mocks like "didn't you get the memo" don't make your position look any stronger.

Also, I find it very amusing to see the same people saying that it's too soon to make any conclusions about Paratici and co., at the same time making conclusions about Beppe at Inter, even though his starting position there was like all-time low (compared to almost all-time high Paratici had here), and he spent there even less time than Paratici spent in charge at Juventus.

I think, it's pretty clear that those who praise Marotta (including myself) refer to his spell at Juventus, not Inter, during which he, unexpectedly, brought the club to the two Champions League finals and made a lot of signings that were excellent from all the perspectives.

This management, on the contrary, is responsible for the last season Champions League failure. They let go Benatia, who the year before that was even better defensively than Bonucci during his year of absence, thus created a problem in the defense, and they didn't solve the problem in the midfield (instead they signed Ramsey for the summer). What did they do when the team failed in the Champions League? Their fired Allegri . And replaced him with Sarri . And that process was also ugly - Max said many times that he didn't want to leave the club, like Dybala says now.

So, please, don't tell me I have to like these guys until they prove that all this mess mentioned above was nothing but temporary difficulties.

As for the idea that the previously successful management is some kind of a guarantee for the future, you'd be surprised how many big and successful companies were destroyed by similarly successful management after they at some point took the wrong direction.

 

[Soloist]

At this point it's seems obvious to me that we have some financial issue, Kean sold for 27m (basically the same we value Danilo), Dybala go for an underwhelming deal and Cancelo another shitty swap + 30m. I hope i'm wrong but this scream we are desperate for money.

 

[DS8_Montero]

I still remember those frightened faces Nedved and Paratici had on the stands, when at the very end of January during the game against Atalanta in Coppa Italia the captain Chiellini was injured, Bonucci already had been injured, they just let Benatia go, and had a furious deadly behemoth - Atletico Madrid - awaiting for them in the Champions League round of 16. That moment could tell you more about these guys than they'd like to say about themselves.

I hope they prove me wrong though.

 

[campionesidd]

At this point it's seems obvious to me that we have some financial issue, Kean sold for 27m (basically the same we value Danilo), Dybala go for an underwhelming deal and Cancelo another shitty swap + 30m. I hope i'm wrong but this scream we are desperate for money.

I’m surprised they aren’t trying harder to get rid of Mandzukic, Khedira and Matuidi.
If we get 10 mil for each of them, that’s 30 million in transfer fees and about 30 million in wages.

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Guys, everyone has the right to have their own opinion. Tuz is not some kind of a sect where everyone must have the same set of values and thoughts, and praise the club no matter what.

If you disagree with someone's opinion, it doesn't mean that it gives you the upper hand in your position, so all kinds of indirect mocks like "didn't you get the memo" don't make your position look any stronger.

Also, I find it very amusing to see the same people saying that it's too soon to make any conclusions about Paratici and co., at the same time making conclusions about Beppe at Inter, even though his starting position there was like all-time low (compared to almost all-time high Paratici had here), and he spent there even less time than Paratici spent in charge at Juventus.

I think, it's pretty clear that those who praise Marotta (including myself) refer to his spell at Juventus, not Inter, during which he, unexpectedly, brought the club to the two Champions League finals and made a lot of signings that were excellent from all the perspectives.

This management, on the contrary, is responsible for the last season Champions League failure. They let go Benatia, who the year before that was even better defensively than Bonucci during his year of absence, thus created a problem in the defense, and they didn't solve the problem in the midfield (instead they signed Ramsey for the summer). What did they do when the team failed in the Champions League? Their fired Allegri . And replaced him with Sarri . And that process was also ugly - Max said many times that he didn't want to leave the club, like Dybala says now.

So, please, don't tell me I have to like these guys until they prove that all this mess mentioned above was nothing but temporary difficulties.

As for the idea that the previously successful management is some kind of a guarantee for the future, you'd be surprised how many big and successful companies were destroyed by similarly successful management after they at some point took the wrong direction.

The reason why we went out in the CL was our pathetic performances vs Ajax. I’m pretty pissed with our management right now, but I don’t think we can blame them entirely for last season.

 

[kappa96]

I still remember those frightened faces Nedved and Paratici had on the stands, when at the very end of January during the game against Atalanta in Coppa Italia the captain Chiellini was injured, Bonucci already had been injured, they just let Benatia go, and had a furious deadly behemoth - Atletico Madrid - awaiting for them in the Champions League round of 16. That moment could tell you more about these guys than they'd like to say about themselves.

I hope they prove me wrong though.

Of course it was paratici and nedved's fault max kept starting an underwhelming bonucci and relegated benatia to an eternal bench warmer.It was also their fault benatia stared bad mouthing juve in every interview he took.
Also if beppe would have been in charge he would go out and splash the cash on a great CB like he did in all these 8 years when we needed some squad patching in January.

PS just in the 2017 January when the squad needed midfield reinforcements beppe got us the great Tomas Rincon.
No disrespect to him ,because I liked the guy.

 

[dolph]

I still remember those frightened faces Nedved and Paratici had on the stands, when at the very end of January during the game against Atalanta in Coppa Italia the captain Chiellini was injured, Bonucci already had been injured, they just let Benatia go, and had a furious deadly behemoth - Atletico Madrid - awaiting for them in the Champions League round of 16. That moment could tell you more about these guys than they'd like to say about themselves.

I hope they prove me wrong though.

 

[X Æ A-12]

I still remember those frightened faces Nedved and Paratici had on the stands, when at the very end of January during the game against Atalanta in Coppa Italia the captain Chiellini was injured, Bonucci already had been injured, they just let Benatia go, and had a furious deadly behemoth - Atletico Madrid - awaiting for them in the Champions League round of 16. That moment could tell you more about these guys than they'd like to say about themselves.

I hope they prove me wrong though.

why didn't Paratici just bitch slap benatia into submission?

 

[kappa96]

Guys, everyone has the right to have their own opinion. Tuz is not some kind of a sect where everyone must have the same set of values and thoughts, and praise the club no matter what.

If you disagree with someone's opinion, it doesn't mean that it gives you the upper hand in your position, so all kinds of indirect mocks like "didn't you get the memo" don't make your position look any stronger.

Also, I find it very amusing to see the same people saying that it's too soon to make any conclusions about Paratici and co., at the same time making conclusions about Beppe at Inter, even though his starting position there was like all-time low (compared to almost all-time high Paratici had here), and he spent there even less time than Paratici spent in charge at Juventus.

I think, it's pretty clear that those who praise Marotta (including myself) refer to his spell at Juventus, not Inter, during which he, unexpectedly, brought the club to the two Champions League finals and made a lot of signings that were excellent from all the perspectives.

This management, on the contrary, is responsible for the last season Champions League failure. They let go Benatia, who the year before that was even better defensively than Bonucci during his year of absence, thus created a problem in the defense, and they didn't solve the problem in the midfield (instead they signed Ramsey for the summer). What did they do when the team failed in the Champions League? Their fired Allegri . And replaced him with Sarri . And that process was also ugly - Max said many times that he didn't want to leave the club, like Dybala says now.

So, please, don't tell me I have to like these guys until they prove that all this mess mentioned above was nothing but temporary difficulties.

As for the idea that the previously successful management is some kind of a guarantee for the future, you'd be surprised how many big and successful companies were destroyed by similarly successful management after they at some point took the wrong direction.

I'm sorry if you thought that the memo thing was a dig at you.i just wanted to point out some 60% 70% are shitting on paratici and nedved and hail beppe as some kind of genius. That is simply not the case as juve continued signing good to great free transfers, potential world class talent de ligt ,or hot prospects like demiral.Our Mo hasn't change with beppe gone.
Also if you wanna go out against someone for the max situation, why not go at the source and went your frustration on il capo AA.
It's not like paratici called agnelli and said " Hey man I fired max, deal with it!"
I value all opinions the same.It's not like I wanna impose mine on someone, as you said this is a discussion forum and all we do is discuss.

 

[Amer]

We will get just 27.5 + 2.5 in bonuses for Kean. Such a bad deal, damn.

He's a striker. You just have to get 50+ million no metter the expiring contract.

Paratici really surprised me here.

 

[lgorTudor]

He is selling Dybala and Cancelo and you care about a teenager with 1 year contract left

 

[kappa96]

We will get just 27.5 + 2.5 in bonuses for Kean. Such a bad deal, damn.

He's a striker. You just have to get 50+ million no metter the expiring contract.

Paratici really surprised me here.

Food for thought.
Tell me one youth player that isn't starting for his team that has been sold for at least 40 mil. ,not 50+

 

[MikeM]

Food for thought.
Tell me one youth player that isn't starting for his team that has been sold for at least 40 mil. ,not 50+

What do you mean by youth player? He was the 4th highest goal scorer on the team. He scored more than Dybala in Serie A.

 

[kappa96]

What do you mean by youth player? He was the 4th highest goal scorer on the team. He scored more than Dybala in Serie A.

Under 21 player that isn't a first team regular.
Let's say in big clubs. But we shouldn't forget that is easier to score goals in juve then let's say sassuolo.

 

[Soloist]

I’m surprised they aren’t trying harder to get rid of Mandzukic, Khedira and Matuidi.
If we get 10 mil for each of them, that’s 30 million in transfer fees and about 30 million in wages.

Clubs that could be interested in them can't afford their wages

 

[Tak!]

28 players in our squad of which we have one that is HG. That leaves us with the opportunity to register 21 players plus Pinsoglio, right?
Obviously Pjaca and Perin will leave. 26 players left.
I hope and assume Khedira leaves. Arsenal would have signed him for €€€€€€ if it was any other club but they know they can get him for free since it is Juve. 25, four to go.
I suppose we also release another bunch of players from their contracts because all clubs know they don't have to purchase anyone we own. They just ask for freebies and we think like a broke banker that "this would free some space in our wage structure", and then let that person go.
Seemingly Cancelo leaves and Dandildo joins. Yes - that's the best use of him. Still at 25.
So Matuidi is given 10m to leave and we exchange Dybala for Lukaku. 24
Higuain refuses everything so we burn up Mario's house, in fear for his family's safety he runs to Manchester. 23
Rugani is Italian. But he is owned by Juventus. So we sell him for 23 silk sheets and promises that if Empoli wins Champions league next year, we will get 70m. We're down to 22. One to go.
Sooo... Fabio looks around... like, shit, what to do? We have 3 GK, 4 CB, 4 LB/RB, 5 CM (of which one will be injured a lot and Can might need more nose fixes). We also have 2 CF and 4 that can play out wide. Three of these spend a lot of time in the medical bay and the fourth is a 34 year old rapist who is not getting any younger. So what to do, what to do... Suddenly Fabio receives a call. It's from Tare, asking him if he wants to offload Cuadrado. Fabio is skeptical, he knows that Cuadrado has to go, but this is also an opportunity. The call is from Tare and not from any club outside of Italy. So he may actually make something from this deal. So they haggle for a while, and finally, they come to a compromise. Cuadrado goes to Lazio, and Simone Inzaghi's 18 year old son, Tommaso, will fly out pizza every Friday to Fabio. Finally, a tired Fabio goes to the fax machine and registers 21+1. A close call. we have seven trained in Italy of eight that needs to be registered. Phew, he made it though. He goes to sleep and dreams of young Italians he can actually sell profitably and playing 'I can't hear youuuuu!' with advisors on setting up a reliable midfield.

I really don't believe in this team. Our offensive players will get injured as much as any other year and most likely even more since Sarri rarely rotates. Our CM is still as much as 'almost' as it has since MVP. Not saying we won't win Serie A, but we're going sideways instead of forward and have a very short-term view.

... yes I am a big cry baby

 

[Jem83]

Wat did I just read

 

[Vlad]

28 players in our squad of which we have one that is HG. That leaves us with the opportunity to register 21 players plus Pinsoglio, right?
Obviously Pjaca and Perin will leave. 26 players left.
I hope and assume Khedira leaves. Arsenal would have signed him for €€€€€€ if it was any other club but they know they can get him for free since it is Juve. 25, four to go.
I suppose we also release another bunch of players from their contracts because all clubs know they don't have to purchase anyone we own. They just ask for freebies and we think like a broke banker that "this would free some space in our wage structure", and then let that person go.
Seemingly Cancelo leaves and Dandildo joins. Yes - that's the best use of him. Still at 25.
So Matuidi is given 10m to leave and we exchange Dybala for Lukaku. 24
Higuain refuses everything so we burn up Mario's house, in fear for his family's safety he runs to Manchester. 23
Rugani is Italian. But he is owned by Juventus. So we sell him for 23 silk sheets and promises that if Empoli wins Champions league next year, we will get 70m. We're down to 22. One to go.
Sooo... Fabio looks around... like, shit, what to do? We have 3 GK, 4 CB, 4 LB/RB, 5 CM (of which one will be injured a lot and Can might need more nose fixes). We also have 2 CF and 4 that can play out wide. Three of these spend a lot of time in the medical bay and the fourth is a 34 year old rapist who is not getting any younger. So what to do, what to do... Suddenly Fabio receives a call. It's from Tare, asking him if he wants to offload Cuadrado. Fabio is skeptical, he knows that Cuadrado has to go, but this is also an opportunity. The call is from Tare and not from any club outside of Italy. So he may actually make something from this deal. So they haggle for a while, and finally, they come to a compromise. Cuadrado goes to Lazio, and Simone Inzaghi's 18 year old son, Tommaso, will fly out pizza every Friday to Fabio. Finally, a tired Fabio goes to the fax machine and registers 21+1. A close call. we have seven trained in Italy of eight that needs to be registered. Phew, he made it though. He goes to sleep and dreams of young Italians he can actually sell profitably and playing 'I can't hear youuuuu!' with advisors on setting up a reliable midfield.

I really don't believe in this team. Our offensive players will get injured as much as any other year and most likely even more since Sarri rarely rotates. Our CM is still as much as 'almost' as it has since MVP. Not saying we won't win Serie A, but we're going sideways instead of forward and have a very short-term view.

... yes I am a big cry baby

 

[piotrr]

28 players in our squad of which we have one that is HG. That leaves us with the opportunity to register 21 players plus Pinsoglio, right?
Obviously Pjaca and Perin will leave. 26 players left.
I hope and assume Khedira leaves. Arsenal would have signed him for €€€€€€ if it was any other club but they know they can get him for free since it is Juve. 25, four to go.
I suppose we also release another bunch of players from their contracts because all clubs know they don't have to purchase anyone we own. They just ask for freebies and we think like a broke banker that "this would free some space in our wage structure", and then let that person go.
Seemingly Cancelo leaves and Dandildo joins. Yes - that's the best use of him. Still at 25.
So Matuidi is given 10m to leave and we exchange Dybala for Lukaku. 24
Higuain refuses everything so we burn up Mario's house, in fear for his family's safety he runs to Manchester. 23
Rugani is Italian. But he is owned by Juventus. So we sell him for 23 silk sheets and promises that if Empoli wins Champions league next year, we will get 70m. We're down to 22. One to go.
Sooo... Fabio looks around... like, shit, what to do? We have 3 GK, 4 CB, 4 LB/RB, 5 CM (of which one will be injured a lot and Can might need more nose fixes). We also have 2 CF and 4 that can play out wide. Three of these spend a lot of time in the medical bay and the fourth is a 34 year old rapist who is not getting any younger. So what to do, what to do... Suddenly Fabio receives a call. It's from Tare, asking him if he wants to offload Cuadrado. Fabio is skeptical, he knows that Cuadrado has to go, but this is also an opportunity. The call is from Tare and not from any club outside of Italy. So he may actually make something from this deal. So they haggle for a while, and finally, they come to a compromise. Cuadrado goes to Lazio, and Simone Inzaghi's 18 year old son, Tommaso, will fly out pizza every Friday to Fabio. Finally, a tired Fabio goes to the fax machine and registers 21+1. A close call. we have seven trained in Italy of eight that needs to be registered. Phew, he made it though. He goes to sleep and dreams of young Italians he can actually sell profitably and playing 'I can't hear youuuuu!' with advisors on setting up a reliable midfield.

I really don't believe in this team. Our offensive players will get injured as much as any other year and most likely even more since Sarri rarely rotates. Our CM is still as much as 'almost' as it has since MVP. Not saying we won't win Serie A, but we're going sideways instead of forward and have a very short-term view.

... yes I am a big cry baby

I'm drunk as well, but not THAT drunk.