Fabio Paratici (26 Viewers)
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It is obvious that we shouldn't be doing business with him.It's not like the guy didn't make for us 110 mil. already. That's like juve's 3 year transfer budget between 2011 and 2016.
This guy only got for us scrubs and hacks like pogba matuidi and recently de ligt.
Clearly we don't have any advantages by dealing with the fat man.
Also looking for the best interests of his clients while making money himself is a no-no.
P.S. Also how dare he advise kean to go to the most covered league in the world , earn more money than in juve , all the while increasing his exposure , playing regularly and developing when he can stay in juve and earn less sit on the bench, hopping that sometime in the next 1,2,3...n years he is going to get a chance to be starter.
Although training with cr7 has this upside but that depends on what kean wants not on what juve wants.
This guy only got for us scrubs and hacks like pogba matuidi and recently de ligt.
Clearly we don't have any advantages by dealing with the fat man.
Also looking for the best interests of his clients while making money himself is a no-no.
P.S. Also how dare he advise kean to go to the most covered league in the world , earn more money than in juve , all the while increasing his exposure , playing regularly and developing when he can stay in juve and earn less sit on the bench, hopping that sometime in the next 1,2,3...n years he is going to get a chance to be starter.
Although training with cr7 has this upside but that depends on what kean wants not on what juve wants.
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You pay for signing if you had, say, 27 millions before the signing and don't have them after the deal. You pay for selling if you have -27 on your sheets after the deal. If you have a 70-million profit after the sale, you not only paid nothing (i.e. get something for free), but gained a hefty sum o money. And those 27 millions were needed to paid only when you get your 70. You didn't pay anything in advance (unlike money already spent/set to be spent on salaries for Rabiot and Ramsey).
That wasn't my point, I explained the logic above.
Yes, and I already commented this fact.
You proposed "at least 50 millions", I said "yes". Isn't that the answer
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No, I wouldn't. PSG don't give a f**k about money, they were ready to pay the price that had to paid to teach this young man some good manners.
Arsenal management being a joke is something they are well-known for. That's why I wrote that, yes, they were stupid in their actions when they already had that guy. Especially considering the fact that they are financially stronger than Juventus and it would be much easier for them to keep him than for Juventus to sign him. But they are the Arsenal management, so...
That's true, and that's what I was talking about several posts ago. What I'm talking about now is that let's not call brilliant free signings what don't really deserve such a praise considering the facts we have now.
That wasn't my point, I explained the logic above.
Yes, and I already commented this fact.
You proposed "at least 50 millions", I said "yes". Isn't that the answer
?No, I wouldn't. PSG don't give a f**k about money, they were ready to pay the price that had to paid to teach this young man some good manners.
Arsenal management being a joke is something they are well-known for. That's why I wrote that, yes, they were stupid in their actions when they already had that guy. Especially considering the fact that they are financially stronger than Juventus and it would be much easier for them to keep him than for Juventus to sign him. But they are the Arsenal management, so...
That's true, and that's what I was talking about several posts ago. What I'm talking about now is that let's not call brilliant free signings what don't really deserve such a praise considering the facts we have now.
Just come out and be transparent to the fan base. Tell them that you are doing all of this to get in line with FFP. We are not as stupid as you and the rest of the board likes to think we are.
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I hope that there is some sort of endgame here, and we just can't see it right now. But we are running out of time
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I hope that there is some sort of endgame here, and we just can't see it right now. But we are running out of time
You pay for signing if you had, say, 27 millions before the signing and don't have them after the deal. You pay for selling if you have -27 on your sheets after the deal. If you have a 70-million profit after the sale, you not only paid nothing (i.e. get something for free), but gained a hefty sum o money. And those 27 millions were needed to paid only when you get your 70. You didn't pay anything in advance (unlike money already spent/set to be spent on salaries for Rabiot and Ramsey).
That wasn't my point, I explained the logic above.
Yes, and I already commented this fact.
You proposed "at least 50 millions", I said "yes". Isn't that the answer?
No, I wouldn't. PSG don't give a f**k about money, they were ready to pay the price that had to paid to teach this young man some good manners.
Arsenal management being a joke is something they are well-known for. That's why I wrote that, yes, they were stupid in their actions when they already had that guy. Especially considering the fact that they are financially stronger than Juventus and it would be much easier for them to keep him than for Juventus to sign him. But they are the Arsenal management, so...
That's true, and that's what I was talking about several posts ago. What I'm talking about now is that let's not call brilliant free signings what don't really deserve such a praise considering the facts we have now.
That wasn't my point, I explained the logic above.
Yes, and I already commented this fact.
You proposed "at least 50 millions", I said "yes". Isn't that the answer
?No, I wouldn't. PSG don't give a f**k about money, they were ready to pay the price that had to paid to teach this young man some good manners.
Arsenal management being a joke is something they are well-known for. That's why I wrote that, yes, they were stupid in their actions when they already had that guy. Especially considering the fact that they are financially stronger than Juventus and it would be much easier for them to keep him than for Juventus to sign him. But they are the Arsenal management, so...
That's true, and that's what I was talking about several posts ago. What I'm talking about now is that let's not call brilliant free signings what don't really deserve such a praise considering the facts we have now.
Well, then maybe it's something you should reconsider. "Teaching a player a lesson" is not an uncommon thing in football. That's exactly what Beppe does with another toxic player right now - Icardi. He knows that he's devaluing his market price, but the order in the club and in the dressing room are values of much higher order than the shot-term profit, and Beppe knows it better than anyone else. It's not some hysteria and emotions, it's called rational management. With cojones, by the way. And the very fact that Icardi, being who he is, is also liked to Paratici's Juventus, says a lot about this manager's priorities and strategic thinking.
I doubt we can see eye to eye on this one.
I fully trust our management until they prove otherwise ( we fail to win)
As we sign rabiot Ramsey, demiral, de ligt and are preparing to offload some players and sign others who may or may not work meanwhile beppe signs sensi barella, some PSV scrub , degrades icardi's value, ships one of inter midfielders (radja ) to cagliari on loan after paying 36 mil for him, conte already fuming on the media because he is not getting his attacker, and people say beppe > paratici based on what exactly?
It's not even the end of the mercato and paratici is already persona non grata even though he is to be praised and commended for his work that he has done for this club.
I fully trust our management until they prove otherwise ( we fail to win)
As we sign rabiot Ramsey, demiral, de ligt and are preparing to offload some players and sign others who may or may not work meanwhile beppe signs sensi barella, some PSV scrub , degrades icardi's value, ships one of inter midfielders (radja ) to cagliari on loan after paying 36 mil for him, conte already fuming on the media because he is not getting his attacker, and people say beppe > paratici based on what exactly?
It's not even the end of the mercato and paratici is already persona non grata even though he is to be praised and commended for his work that he has done for this club.
You really dont know that. You dont have the slightest idea what the clubs strategy is going forward. We have a highly succesfull management team, who has done an amazing job during the years. Sure there has been dumb decisions from time to time, buying Lukaku for 85m seems to be one, but overall they have been highly succesfull.
As it stands right we bought:
MDL - 19 years old
Demiral - 21 years old
Pellegrini - 21 years old
Rabiot - 24 years old
Ramsey - 28 years old
Buffon - 67 years old
Sold:
Spina - 27 years old
Kean - 19 years old
The rest is so far just press rumours, so maybe we should wait to the end of the mercato, to bring out the pitchforks. Maybe even wait to a couple of months into the season and see how all this works out.
As it stands right we bought:
MDL - 19 years old
Demiral - 21 years old
Pellegrini - 21 years old
Rabiot - 24 years old
Ramsey - 28 years old
Buffon - 67 years old
Sold:
Spina - 27 years old
Kean - 19 years old
The rest is so far just press rumours, so maybe we should wait to the end of the mercato, to bring out the pitchforks. Maybe even wait to a couple of months into the season and see how all this works out.
Didn't you get the memo.
Look how many world class players inda bought and are selling for huge sums left and right
It's obvious that beppe would have sold kean in his last year of contract with the player wanting out for at least 80 mil. With a buyback clause of 40 mil.
PS. Wanna bet that if paratici would have bought barella for 50 he would be crucified for not getting ndombele for 62?
Look how many world class players inda bought and are selling for huge sums left and right
It's obvious that beppe would have sold kean in his last year of contract with the player wanting out for at least 80 mil. With a buyback clause of 40 mil.
PS. Wanna bet that if paratici would have bought barella for 50 he would be crucified for not getting ndombele for 62?
I really dont like the Dybala/Lukaku and Cancelo/Danilo rumours if they are true, but the overeaction towards FP and Nedved are way over the top. FP has been the right hand man for 7 years now, was the main man behind bringing Ronaldo last year, and the transfers that have actually happened this summer are overall really good.
Well, it's not like what I see going on here is something unique on this planet. I saw a lot of similar stories, even saw some of them being inside them. So, yeah, maybe I'm not informed about all the aspects involved into this club management processes, but it doesn't mean that I have to believe and trust guys I already have reasons not to, based on my own experience and on what they already did. If they prove me wrong - great, I will admit I was wrong. But I'm too old for this "I fully trust and believe the management" thing.
That's simply not true. The highly successful management team included Marotta who led this team. Without Marotta this is a different team, and they are yet to prove they worth what they are said to be worthy by some here. I reserve my right to stay skeptical about them until they deserve to be praised, like they deserved when Beppe was in charge.
That's simply not true. The highly successful management team included Marotta who led this team. Without Marotta this is a different team, and they are yet to prove they worth what they are said to be worthy by some here. I reserve my right to stay skeptical about them until they deserve to be praised, like they deserved when Beppe was in charge.
The President is still the same, the Vice President is still the same, the number two guy is know the number one guy, and the old number one guy is currently in Inter trying to get Lukaku and a 40year old Dzeko.
You are entitled to your opinion, but IMO the current management has earned our respect, and I will support them until proven otherwise.
You are entitled to your opinion, but IMO the current management has earned our respect, and I will support them until proven otherwise.