[EUROPA League] Ajax 1-2 JUVENTUS (Feb. 18th 2010) (1 Viewer)
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I love watching Juve, I hate watching this team. Every match is an excruciating experience.
Shots – 16 to 5
Corners – 9 to 2
Possession – 63/37
There is zero intelligence in this current Juve side. We simply cannot maintain any sort of possession. All our play is panicked and ridiculed with fundamental errors no football team of this level should ever commit. Our movement is slow, our passing has absolutely zero fluidity, and our overall play is extremely predictable.
Ajax continually opened up space in our 3 man backline. This has proven to be the case every game since we switched to this idiotic formation, which plays to all of our weaknesses in defense and ignores all of our strengths in midfield.
Zac showed his true colours. Brazzo for Amauri?! I understand he wanted to defend the lead (which in the 70th min is typical Italian bullshit), but why not switch to a back four and make us more compact? You achieve exactly the same goal, but also retain the ability to counter-attack and maintain possession, which when trying to defend a lead, is an exponentially more useful tactic than continually clearing the ball back to the other team.
Were a pathetic team and did not deserve to win this match. Del Piero and Amauri, coupled with poor defending on our only real chances of the game, won us the match. We were our typical selves, and on that performance another team would have humiliated us.
Shots – 16 to 5
Corners – 9 to 2
Possession – 63/37
There is zero intelligence in this current Juve side. We simply cannot maintain any sort of possession. All our play is panicked and ridiculed with fundamental errors no football team of this level should ever commit. Our movement is slow, our passing has absolutely zero fluidity, and our overall play is extremely predictable.
Ajax continually opened up space in our 3 man backline. This has proven to be the case every game since we switched to this idiotic formation, which plays to all of our weaknesses in defense and ignores all of our strengths in midfield.
Zac showed his true colours. Brazzo for Amauri?! I understand he wanted to defend the lead (which in the 70th min is typical Italian bullshit), but why not switch to a back four and make us more compact? You achieve exactly the same goal, but also retain the ability to counter-attack and maintain possession, which when trying to defend a lead, is an exponentially more useful tactic than continually clearing the ball back to the other team.
Were a pathetic team and did not deserve to win this match. Del Piero and Amauri, coupled with poor defending on our only real chances of the game, won us the match. We were our typical selves, and on that performance another team would have humiliated us.
are you fucking mad ? did you even watch one minute of the game ? de ceglie was probably the most useless player having the luck that del piero kicked the ball against his left leg so it accidently bounced to amauri who headed it in ...
every other cross by him was way of target .. the ball always was aimed to far away from the goal. instead between the goal and the defenders ... he crossed it behind everyone that was looking towards the goal so they had a really easy time clearing it
every other cross by him was way of target .. the ball always was aimed to far away from the goal. instead between the goal and the defenders ... he crossed it behind everyone that was looking towards the goal so they had a really easy time clearing it
Great result. We won because of luck (the one that struck the post), expirience and physical play. Alex may be the smarter player I've seen. I did not understand why we give the ball away once we have taken the lead. Solid defense dealing with that Suarez f*er, Zebina had me worried good thing he was subbed altough I would have liked to see Caceres there. A last Amauri is finding goals that were very much needed. We just need haul ass when defending the counter attack. De Ceglie for Grosso any day and the first sub should have been Gio for Diego.
We started with 3 at the back. PDC dropped back alot but was stationed in midfield anyway. Chiellini constantly covered the left and you could see the amount of space given away on the right in defence, that there wasn't a 4-man line at the back.
PDC dropped back later in the game, when Marchisio was moved to the left to accomodate Sali on the right.
PDC dropped back later in the game, when Marchisio was moved to the left to accomodate Sali on the right.
I thought it was pretty obvious he was supposed to play midfield and the official line-up says 3-4-1-2 aswell. He's a LB though, not a winger, so obviously he'd drop back more than a proper winger would. Like I said, the amount of space etc only backs it up aswell.
But let's agree to disagree, and say it was somewhere in between.
But let's agree to disagree, and say it was somewhere in between.
ha ha .. that is quite funny, since according to you we get burned on the wings/full back position ... and do you smart and wise man remember where we got beaten under ciro with his interpretation of 4-3-2-1 ? .. i will help you ... we got beaten in the CENTER of defense ... know you come and tell me, what is more dangerous ... getting beaten on the wing and allowing the opponent to cross or shoot from a difficult angle or getting beaten in the middle and having constant one-on-ones against our keeper or easy shoot-in occasions against us ?
Nope it was 4 all the time.
It's the same with DC as it is with Caceres: Both tend to hang out more in the midfield than they should because of moving forward. When we played Caceres-Canna-Chillini-Grosso Caceres was always 10/20 meters more forward than the rest of the defense, but it was still 4 at the back. Same happened today with DC.
When we had a 5 men midfield then why was Marchisio on the left and DC stepped on his feet the whole game? Doesn't make sense huh? That was because Marchisio started on the left of the DM 3, after getting in touch with DC all the time he switched the sides more an more during the game. He was on both sides which is not what a wingback does in 5 men midfield.
It's the same with DC as it is with Caceres: Both tend to hang out more in the midfield than they should because of moving forward. When we played Caceres-Canna-Chillini-Grosso Caceres was always 10/20 meters more forward than the rest of the defense, but it was still 4 at the back. Same happened today with DC.
When we had a 5 men midfield then why was Marchisio on the left and DC stepped on his feet the whole game? Doesn't make sense huh? That was because Marchisio started on the left of the DM 3, after getting in touch with DC all the time he switched the sides more an more during the game. He was on both sides which is not what a wingback does in 5 men midfield.
although amauri score twice and Dp leaded the attack well, today surprise surprise Melo was the MOM IMO. in such games the team needed the extra man who could do the dirty stuff right and today it was melo. Sissoko was just lost and most of ajax attack came from him. and Melo was playing one of his better game since he joined thats why we won. i would say tha this is how we should always play in the CL or Europa cups. if we played an open game we could have been hammered today for sure.
beside the win, suarez is suspeneded for the next game
beside the win, suarez is suspeneded for the next game
It was a back 4 guys, not 3 from the start.
We played like this:
zebina-------------------legro-------------chiellini----------------------de ceglie
-----------------sissoko-----------melo----------------marchisio-----------------
------------------------------------Diego--------------------------------------------
--------------------amauri-------------------------del piero------------------------
We played like this:
zebina-------------------legro-------------chiellini----------------------de ceglie
-----------------sissoko-----------melo----------------marchisio-----------------
------------------------------------Diego--------------------------------------------
--------------------amauri-------------------------del piero------------------------
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