Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread (5 Viewers)

Euro 2016 Outright Winner?

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,235
Nothing wrong with being a proud belgian
+rep
Thanks.

People like Osman don't have that pride, because it scares them. In a way it opens you up for tremendous hurt when your team fails and that's why many people choose not to do it. But I think that's cowardice.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Thanks.

People like Osman don't have that pride, because it scares them. In a way it opens you up for tremendous hurt when your team fails and that's why many people choose not to do it. But I think that's cowardice.
You need to agree that the media was incredibly arrogant all day, and that belgian players are mostly arrogant and cannot put in defensive work if their life depends on it, save a few



I've seen De Bruyne run significant amounts back various times, cause the cm was not doing anything
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Dude. This Belgian side with Conte and we win everything. I blame the players for not overruling the coach. They are world class talents.
The Belgium team with Conte as coach will need extensive therapy to recover from their trashed ego.


And then they'll win everything the next 6 years
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,235
You need to agree that the media was incredibly arrogant all day, and that belgian players are mostly arrogant and cannot put in defensive work if their life depends on it, save a few



I've seen De Bruyne run significant amounts back various times, cause the cm was not doing anything
There is nothing wrong with arrogance if you back it up. Our players did not have true confidence though. If they did we would have won 5-0. We have a coach who undermines us by panicking and taking off Carrasco.

Another thing is that our players are apparently not strong enough mentally to tell him to fuck off and keep on playing.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
59,293
Oh @Osman, its far worse then that, allow me to list you a few things


- Years ago, there was huge criticism about belgium beeing devoid of talent. Alot of criticism towards the FA about it.

- Out of nowere around '06-'08 we had a huge generation of street kids standing up. Standard Liege started it with Fellaini, Witsel, Defour for example. Coach was Preud'homme. Who got these kids to kick out Everton in the CL qualification, and nearly kicked out Liverpool who won the CL that year. Preud'homme is a proven great coach. And has immense respect from both language zones

- We've had a few years in which quality kept increasing. But we werent delivering. Then George Leekens became headcoach with LOLmots as assistant. He is credited to have laid the foundations for todays team, as he introduced many of the current players into the belgian team and build the base. HOWEVER, Club Brugge then offered a huge salary and he left, LOLmots taking over.

- LOLmots added nothing. He is a respected player and was considered a great motivator, but the team didnt click and improve, the faults remained.

- Preud'homme was succesfull outside belgium. He came back at brugge whom was becomming a belgian pre-ronaldinho Barcelona. Huge investments each years and no succes. Preud'homme repeated his Standard masterpiece, and managed to create stability and a terrific team from these individuals at brugge. They became champions this season, after 11 years (despite beeing second highest budget in belgium.

- LOLmots has no gameplan. He has no tactical knowledge. He has poor knowledge about players. Belgium cannot control space if their life would depend on it. Conte is a good example on how the coach can influence this. Parolo and the likes are perfectly executing that 3-5-2, without a midfield general defensively. belgium has no space controller. Kompany is great in 1v1 and beeing a stopper and a leader, but he is no organiser and cannot controll space.


Meanwhile, the belgium FA has received absolute record income trough marketting, and is somehow operating with huge losses, cause of abysmal spending and bonusses.


Belgium can easely offer 4 times the wage any belgian club can offer a coach.


Hein Vanhaezebroeck, went past the CL groupstages with Ghent. He's not a fan of primadonna's. You work, or get fucking rekt
Preud'homme got a bunch of pathetic chockers, also well paid, and he made a winning team out of it that often plays quite good football.


Various other coaches are quite good.



Courtois has now twice blasted the tactical ineptness.



There folks. Thats belgium in a nutshell
:tup:
 

lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
32,949
Thanks.

People like Osman don't have that pride, because it scares them. In a way it opens you up for tremendous hurt when your team fails and that's why many people choose not to do it. But I think that's cowardice.
you can still support your team in a healthy way

like our poles
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
16,420
Oh @Osman, its far worse then that, allow me to list you a few things


- Years ago, there was huge criticism about belgium beeing devoid of talent. Alot of criticism towards the FA about it.

- Out of nowere around '06-'08 we had a huge generation of street kids standing up. Standard Liege started it with Fellaini, Witsel, Defour for example. Coach was Preud'homme. Who got these kids to kick out Everton in the CL qualification, and nearly kicked out Liverpool who won the CL that year. Preud'homme is a proven great coach. And has immense respect from both language zones

- We've had a few years in which quality kept increasing. But we werent delivering. Then George Leekens became headcoach with LOLmots as assistant. He is credited to have laid the foundations for todays team, as he introduced many of the current players into the belgian team and build the base. HOWEVER, Club Brugge then offered a huge salary and he left, LOLmots taking over.

- LOLmots added nothing. He is a respected player and was considered a great motivator, but the team didnt click and improve, the faults remained.

- Preud'homme was succesfull outside belgium. He came back at brugge whom was becomming a belgian pre-ronaldinho Barcelona. Huge investments each years and no succes. Preud'homme repeated his Standard masterpiece, and managed to create stability and a terrific team from these individuals at brugge. They became champions this season, after 11 years (despite beeing second highest budget in belgium.

- LOLmots has no gameplan. He has no tactical knowledge. He has poor knowledge about players. Belgium cannot control space if their life would depend on it. Conte is a good example on how the coach can influence this. Parolo and the likes are perfectly executing that 3-5-2, without a midfield general defensively. belgium has no space controller. Kompany is great in 1v1 and beeing a stopper and a leader, but he is no organiser and cannot controll space.


Meanwhile, the belgium FA has received absolute record income trough marketting, and is somehow operating with huge losses, cause of abysmal spending and bonusses.


Belgium can easely offer 4 times the wage any belgian club can offer a coach.


Hein Vanhaezebroeck, went past the CL groupstages with Ghent. He's not a fan of primadonna's. You work, or get $#@!ing rekt
Preud'homme got a bunch of pathetic chockers, also well paid, and he made a winning team out of it that often plays quite good football.


Various other coaches are quite good.



Courtois has now twice blasted the tactical ineptness.



There folks. Thats belgium in a nutshell
Basically you're shiit.
 

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