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[Enron]

The matter with me? People are always hating on Spain, Italy and Holland, because they are the exact opposite of Ireland. They are players who strive for greatness. I wonder why our society hates people who strive to be great and admires losers. Where did we go wrong? Is is this "everyone is special" crap?

I like Spain and Holland. Germany too. For the same reasons you do and I don't admire Ireland's football team. No one said everyone is special.


But I don't feel the need to bash Ireland/Irish people simply because their fans outsang the Spain fans that won 4-0. I mean, are you so much of a asshole that something this petty sets you off on some eugenic diatribe against mediocrity?

 

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[Dadi-SK]

I like Spain and Holland. Germany too. For the same reasons you do and I don't admire Ireland's football team. No one said everyone is special.


But I don't feel the need to bash Ireland/Irish people simply because their fans outsang the Spain fans that won 4-0. I mean, are you so much of a asshole that something this petty sets you off on some eugenic diatribe against mediocrity?

:thumbup:

 

[Itztli]

Mostly football. A lot of Irish people (not necessarily athletes) tend to duplicate that behaviour though.

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Are you trying to imply that the Irish have a loser mentally?

 

[Seven]

I like Spain and Holland. Germany too. For the same reasons you do and I don't admire Ireland's football team. No one said everyone is special.


But I don't feel the need to bash Ireland/Irish people simply because their fans outsang the Spain fans that won 4-0. I mean, are you so much of a asshole that something this petty sets you off on some eugenic diatribe against mediocrity?

Oh, but it's not about them singing. It's about praising them. In essence, it's probably more about the people who praise the Irish than the Irish themselves. Although they do tend to do everything they can to protect their nice loser image.

 

[Seven]

Are you trying to imply that the Irish have a loser mentally?

Well, the European Union certainly seems to think that might not be that far off the mark.

 

[Toro_Merda]

Clearly a mental case!

 

[Zlatan]

Nearly never though. It's just not the attitude an athlete should have. You know why the US do great at the Olympics? You know why Holland, even though they're a small country, often have a great football team? Because they are countries where the people believe you can win. You have to put the bar high. The Irish put the bar as low as possible. I will not admire that attitude.

And why do they think they can win? Because they DO have some quality players ffs, you're really being ridiculous here.

Should San Marino believe they can win every match? Are the players bad sportsmen because they celebrate coring a goal like winning the world cup? Are their fans terrible for knowing they will lose and just enjoying playing the games?


You're being incredibly cinical and utterly ridiculous. Football is a GAME. Games are for entertainment and enjoying yourself. As long as they enjoy themselves they have understood the point of football.

 

[Fint]

I thought everyone liked the Irish ?

And who said this exactly? You're obviously a very cynical and pessimistic person. The fact that your location states : beheading infidels in the basement, leads me to believe that you are fairly close minded and unintelligent if you consider this to be a joke.

 

[Dadi-SK]

Oh, but it's not about them singing. It's about praising them. In essence, it's probably more about the people who praise the Irish than the Irish themselves. Although they do tend to do everything they can to protect their nice loser image.

I guess we praise them because we can see it from a different angle, like tonight? Like neutrals? I guess for the Irish it is just usual and normal to support their athletes no matter what.

 

[Seven]

And why do they think they can win? Because they DO have some quality players ffs, you're really being ridiculous here.

Should San Marino believe they can win every match? Are the players bad sportsmen because they celebrate coring a goal like winning the world cup? Are their fans terrible for knowing they will lose and just enjoying playing the games?


You're being incredibly cinical and utterly ridiculous. Football is a GAME. Games are for entertainment and enjoying yourself. As long as they enjoy themselves they have understood the point of football.

No. You've got it wrong. The belief is what causes great players to rise. Holland, Spain, Portugal, Uruguay.. they all produce these players. Because the belief is there.

 

[Zlatan]

Oh, but it's not about them singing. It's about praising them. In essence, it's probably more about the people who praise the Irish than the Irish themselves. Although they do tend to do everything they can to protect their nice loser image.

You must be a bundle of joy to be around with.

 

[Enron]

Oh, but it's not about them singing. It's about praising them. In essence, it's probably more about the people who praise the Irish than the Irish themselves. Although they do tend to do everything they can to protect their nice loser image.

Praising what? We've entered that part of the conversation where it's necessary to specify exactly what we mean. Are you mad about people praising the singing fans? Are you mad because of the fans singing for the players? And I will agree that singing is a form of praise. Or are you pissed about all of it?

As far as fans go I don't think we've seen any right wing neo-nazi Ireland marches yet so as far as that goes Irish fans are looking a bit better than the Ukrainian, Croat, Russian, and Polish fans.

 

[Seven]

You must be a bundle of joy to be around with.

I admire Shevchenko. This man did everything he could to win and he won. That is greatness.

Not caring about winning or not, playing mediocre football and getting drunk afterwards.. Where is the greatness in that? Why do you people like that so much? Are we really that much degraded as a society?

 

[Enron]

I admire Shevchenko. This man did everything he could to win and he won. That is greatness.

Not caring about winning or not, playing mediocre football and getting drunk afterwards.. Where is the greatness in that? Why do you people like that so much? Are we really that much degraded as a society?

What do you do when Belgium/Italy loses?

 

[Seven]

Praising what? We've entered that part of the conversation where it's necessary to specify exactly what we mean. Are you mad about people praising the singing fans? Are you mad because of the fans singing for the players? And I will agree that singing is a form of praise. Or are you pissed about all of it?

As far as fans go I don't think we've seen any right wing neo-nazi Ireland marches yet so as far as that goes Irish fans are looking a bit better than the Ukrainian, Croat, Russian, and Polish fans.

I am pissed off with so called neutral fans praising the Irish fans for their admirable behaviour. They went there to drink and have fun. The Italian fans go there, because they want to support their team in winning. They want to accomplish something. The Irish don't want to accomplish squat. It's fine with me that they enjoy themselves, but don't call the Italians sore losers and the Irish gracious in defeat.

Admirable is trying to achieve new heights. Striving for greatness is admirable. The Irish don't do that. And they don't have to. But why praise them for it? Praise should be hard earned.

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What do you do when Belgium/Italy loses?

If they gave their all and kept on believing they could win, I will praise them.

The question always is: can you win and lose like a man?

And the Irish don't lose like men. They just lose.

 

[Fint]

What do you do when Belgium/Italy loses?

Cuts himself just a little I'm guessing?

 

[Seven]

Cuts himself just a little I'm guessing?

Cutting is for losers who think they are not responsible for their own happiness, but are powerless to the circumstances. People very much like you.

 

[Toro_Merda]

I have never heard of a team that has qualified for EURO finals with the help of its loser mentality !!! You fucking idiot, they are on this forum with the great help of their fans support...

 

[Enron]

I am pissed off with so called neutral fans praising the Irish fans for their admirable behaviour. They went there to drink and have fun. The Italian fans go there, because they want to support their team in winning. They want to accomplish something. The Irish don't want to accomplish squat. It's fine with me that they enjoy themselves, but don't call the Italians sore losers and the Irish gracious in defeat.

Admirable is trying to achieve new heights. Striving for greatness is admirable. The Irish don't do that. And they don't have to. But why praise them for it? Praise should be hard earned.

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If they gave their all and kept on believing they could win, I will praise them.

1) Fair enough. You're still mostly wrong though.

2) I think you're lying. But that's neither here nor there.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

In case of a 1:1 draw, Italy needs yo beat Ireland with 4:2 or 3 goals margin.

Hmmm espn cats just said they need to win the only time goal differential comes into play is when it's 2-2 or more. Although I could have miss heard