Am I the only one who doesn't care about this whole coefficient thing? And that if we didn't finish in the top 3, we don't deserve to play in the Champions League anyway?
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Meh.
As a fan of an Italian team I want it to be as easy as possible for us to qualify & do well.
Better an easy win or qualification, than not making it or going out "with your head held high".
As for taking them more seriously, I'm not sure. Regardless, if less teams qualify, less games are played, less points are gained. And so on & so forth.
It's going to be a tough couple of years for Italy. And as a result, for Juve...
As a fan of an Italian team I want it to be as easy as possible for us to qualify & do well.
Better an easy win or qualification, than not making it or going out "with your head held high".
As for taking them more seriously, I'm not sure. Regardless, if less teams qualify, less games are played, less points are gained. And so on & so forth.
It's going to be a tough couple of years for Italy. And as a result, for Juve...
Thing is, we support Juventus, a team that traditionally sets high targets. We shouldn't be concerned with claiming any other spot than 1st. If the CL spots were reduced to two only for Italy, don't you think our management would pull out all the stops to rectify gaps in the team?
I really don't care about the rest of Italy, provided the team gets it's act together & win secure the scudetto or 2nd spot, then im fine with the rest struggling.
I really don't care about the rest of Italy, provided the team gets it's act together & win secure the scudetto or 2nd spot, then im fine with the rest struggling.
In short: No.
Not any more than teams like Milan, Inter & probably even Roma would.
As for aiming for 1st spot, I agree. But it doesn't hurt to have some sort of back up.
There is a real chance we will not be playing CL next season. Which would again mean no extra income, which would in turn make it even harder to make it the next year, especially since there will only be 2 direct spots left...
Not any more than teams like Milan, Inter & probably even Roma would.
As for aiming for 1st spot, I agree. But it doesn't hurt to have some sort of back up.
There is a real chance we will not be playing CL next season. Which would again mean no extra income, which would in turn make it even harder to make it the next year, especially since there will only be 2 direct spots left...
I'm not going to argue that the less champions league spots we have; the better. Because I don't think that's true. The equation is simple; more money means more success. Finishing third to Inter and Milan even though our management did everything they could is very realistic. Therefore, it's very possible that we lose money which in turn means we will have less success.
Regardless, I'm against the idea that Juve out of all teams should be concerned about the 4th spot FFS. I remember the days when finishing second was nothing short of an irreconcilable tragedy. That was back when we were winning back to back Scudetto's like they were nothing.
This what we are lacking now. We don't seem to have that belief anymore. Our standards our lower. We draw to mid table teams away from home and we are satisfied. Since Serie B, the team's mentality completely shifted.
I don't think we'll ever go back to the championship team we once were unless Scudetto is the only goal we have and nothing else. As long as we're content with finishing 3rd and 4th. We'll never win anything.
And it's not a question of being realistic. This isn't deciding what actions to take to reduce unemployment, or how we should prevent teenage pregnancies. There is nothing realistic about football. Anything can happen, it's 11 against 11 out there. The team that comes out on top is the team with more belief.
Sorry for the long rant, it's just that all this concern about UEFA coefficients are beginning to get to me. And what's good for Serie A is not necessarily good for Juve. It's the other way around.
Regardless, I'm against the idea that Juve out of all teams should be concerned about the 4th spot FFS. I remember the days when finishing second was nothing short of an irreconcilable tragedy. That was back when we were winning back to back Scudetto's like they were nothing.
This what we are lacking now. We don't seem to have that belief anymore. Our standards our lower. We draw to mid table teams away from home and we are satisfied. Since Serie B, the team's mentality completely shifted.
I don't think we'll ever go back to the championship team we once were unless Scudetto is the only goal we have and nothing else. As long as we're content with finishing 3rd and 4th. We'll never win anything.
And it's not a question of being realistic. This isn't deciding what actions to take to reduce unemployment, or how we should prevent teenage pregnancies. There is nothing realistic about football. Anything can happen, it's 11 against 11 out there. The team that comes out on top is the team with more belief.
Sorry for the long rant, it's just that all this concern about UEFA coefficients are beginning to get to me. And what's good for Serie A is not necessarily good for Juve. It's the other way around.
You can be a 4th seed and be drawn into an easier group than a 1st seeded team. Look at Real Madrid's group and look at Arsenal's group's teams barring Arsenal. Which group do you think is easier? Right, obviously chances are stacked against us but I believe that if we're good enough, it shouldn't matter which group we're playing in.
