[EU] Champions League 2008/2009 (14 Viewers)

Status
Not open for further replies.

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,298
Most of what Xavi does is pass the ball wide. Iniesta is so, so much better. It's ridiculous to even compare the two. You see a team with Henry, Eto'o, Iniesta, Puyol and MESSI and the player you pick out is Xavi. Utterly ridiculous.
Nobody is picking anybody out for undeserved praise. Iniesta is very good as well, obviously better one on one with players than Xavi, but the latter is simply better than most in terms of vision, passing ability, creativity and how he can execute his passes.

Of course Messi is the better player. He's the best player in the world. Puyol could be the best tackler in the world. But Xavi is one of the top midfielders in the world, proven by the way he played this year in La Liga, the CL, and in the Euros.

There's no debating it or denying it anymore. It's completely retarded to do so.

And you didn't name anybody in the same position besides Iniesta, thus proving my point.

Passing the ball wide is not the only way Xavi passes. Have you seen the agility the player has, the way he turns and immediately executes a complete pass IS out of this world.
Exactly.
 
OP
Azzurri7

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread Starter #8,925
    Xavi does nothing special. I can think of 10 players who could do the same.

    Now Messi.. that's a different thing. He's out of this world.
    That's Bullshit Andries. Name me two players doing more than him on the pitch.

    Football wise, Xavi is one complete player and there's no one better than him ATM.

    Most of what Xavi does is pass the ball wide. Iniesta is so, so much better. It's ridiculous to even compare the two. You see a team with Henry, Eto'o, Iniesta, Puyol and MESSI and the player you pick out is Xavi. Utterly ridiculous.
    Not true at all. It's one of the few times I disagree with you, but I'm going to strongly disagree here. Here's what Xavi does other than pass the ball wide...

    1- Perfect ball control at his feet
    2- Can kill the rhythm of the game any minute any second.
    3- Perfect ball passer. Perfect crosser.
    4- Immense vision on the pitch.
    5- Knows when to attack, when to slow down the game.
    6- Can defend and attack almost at the same times.
    7- Stamina.
     
    Mar 30, 2006
    3,747
    Yup fucking way. In this order
    1. DDR
    2. Essien
    3. Xavi

    If I was making a dream team, all 3 of them would be there in a 4-3-3 formation.
    That is a tad much. De Rossi is great but he tends to choke in big games and does not have the same technical level as Xavi. Xavi and Essien have led their teams to trophies.

    Also seeing how you left Gerrard, Lampard, Pirlo and Cesc off the list do you think De Rossi is better than them?
    I dont think he is better than any of them. But he is still a great player.
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
    39,352
    Nobody is picking anybody out for undeserved praise. Iniesta is very good as well, obviously better one on one with players than Xavi, but the latter is simply better than most in terms of vision, passing ability, creativity and how he can execute his passes.

    Of course Messi is the better player. He's the best player in the world. Puyol could be the best tackler in the world. But Xavi is one of the top midfielders in the world, proven by the way he played this year in La Liga, the CL, and in the Euros.

    There's no debating it or denying it anymore. It's completely retarded to do so.

    And you didn't name anybody in the same position besides Iniesta, thus proving my point.
    It doesn't prove anything. People on here should really look up the definition of "to prove". De Rossi's a pretty good example by the way. Xavi is better than most, but he really does not deserve all the praise he's getting. He's one of the more average players in a Barcelona side filled with talent. He's handy because he distributes the ball well, but he's not the player that wins them games.
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
    39,352
    That's Bullshit Andries. Name me two players doing more than him on the pitch.

    Football wise, Xavi is one complete player and there's no one better than him ATM.



    Not true at all. It's one of the few times I disagree with you, but I'm going to strongly disagree here. Here's what Xavi does other than pass the ball wide...

    1- Perfect ball control at his feet
    2- Can kill the rhythm of the game any minute any second.
    3- Perfect ball passer. Perfect crosser.
    4- Immense vision on the pitch.
    5- Knows when to attack, when to slow down the game.
    6- Can defend and attack almost at the same times.
    7- Stamina.
    It's because his team is brilliant, Rab. Let him play for Genoa and he'll look mediocre. Zidane wouldn't have. Messi wouldn't and Ronaldo wouldn't.
     
    OP
    Azzurri7

    Azzurri7

    Pinturicchio
    Moderator
    Dec 16, 2003
    72,692
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread Starter #8,929
    It's because his team is brilliant, Rab. Let him play for Genoa and he'll look mediocre. Zidane wouldn't have. Messi wouldn't and Ronaldo wouldn't.
    Spain wasn't a brilliant team when they won the European Cup last year. Xavi was MVP of that tournament.

    Plus, what if his team is brilliant? That's part of the game man. He has his duty and job on the field and he's doing it whether others are making it easier for him or not that we don't and can't tell/predict. Specially that he hasn't played for any other team.
     

    Fred

    Senior Member
    Oct 2, 2003
    41,113
    Iniesta is a more complete player. He might even go on to be a better player than Xavi, as imo he has more in his locker. But for the time being Xavi is the better player, and for you to call him average, even in contrast to this talented Barca side, is way too far fetched Seven.

    Xavi is the second best midfielder in the world this year, and he has been instrumental to Barca's success. He doesn't always pass sideways, he is Barcelona's most creative player FFS. He does pass the ball sideways more than he should though, but thats only because Barca's gameplan is to always play possession football, so Xavi ends up only taking calculated risks.

    Bottom line is, he's a brilliant player and today he was, along with Iniesta the best player in the game.
     
    OP
    Azzurri7

    Azzurri7

    Pinturicchio
    Moderator
    Dec 16, 2003
    72,692
  • Thread Starter
  • Thread Starter #8,931
    So no one was able to explain Eto'o's celebration?
    Eto'o then explained his gesture of slapping his arm after the goal as he stated that it means "el sangre de mi padre" (my father's blood). "I dedicate this cup to my father, I am very happy, I helped my team to win and that's fantastic," he added.
     

    Bjerknes

    "Top Economist"
    Mar 16, 2004
    116,298
    It's because his team is brilliant, Rab. Let him play for Genoa and he'll look mediocre. Zidane wouldn't have. Messi wouldn't and Ronaldo wouldn't.
    Complete... utter... tripe.

    He'd still be able to complete everything he completes whether he's in Genoa, Juventus, Red Bull New York, or Shanghai Dragons. Nobody else has bearing on what HE DOES. When Xavi spins around, turns and places in a through ball to Eto'o or Brian Ching, it's the same through ball. If Xavi receives a pass from Iniesta or Brian Ching and hits the post on a 25-meter shot, it's still his shot.

    You make absolutely no sense whatsoever.
     
    Status
    Not open for further replies.

    Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 14)