You probably haven't watched Liverpool enough, but as a team and as a club, we've progressed immensely. Our youth academy has been completely revamped, our scouting network has been expanded tremendously, and we've slowly but surely built a far deeper and stronger squad. Even though we haven't won anything in the last two years, we're a lot more competitive in the CL for example than Juve at this point, despite the fact that we lost to the same team. and to imply that Liverpool are not a team that should be or expect to be winning trophies, well, that's completely wrong, despite the very long gap, Liverpool have basically the same expectations that all top teams (like Juve) have, to win the league and do well in Europe. and while times have changed, I can deal with 4 or 5 trophyless seasons if the club is clearly rebuilding itself to be one of the best in the world. then again, i'm more patient than most. for me one of the biggest differences is that Juve's management don't seem to have a plan in place, despite their talk, while Benitez clearly has a plan for the club.
as for drogba>torres, I would argue that when they both play well, they're very close, however, if you watched chelsea more often you'd realize that while torres sometimes has bad games, drogba simply disappears completely if he's unhappy with how his earl grey was steeped in the morning. comparing torres on an off-day to drogba at his bruising best, well, no shit drogba is better! and for the record, I definitely think that when is Drogba playing well, he's as good as anyone in the world.
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