not in my best interest, as it does look like we'll be getting third and fourth for the the coming years 
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I agree if a team makes it through qualifying then they absolutely deserve to play in the group stage.
I hear everyone whining about Basel, but what about Celtic, OM, and PSV? They have been terrible in the CL this year. Should they be banned as well?
Then you have CLUJ or whatever who probably have the upset of the tournament. Add in Shaktar's performance last matchday and the little teams have represented themselves quite well.
I hear everyone whining about Basel, but what about Celtic, OM, and PSV? They have been terrible in the CL this year. Should they be banned as well?
Then you have CLUJ or whatever who probably have the upset of the tournament. Add in Shaktar's performance last matchday and the little teams have represented themselves quite well.
Thank you Martin.
Well, yes, there are always exceptions. However, that's not the point I was aiming for. What I mean is that teams that have no chance in the compeition, teams that don't have the players to trouble the big teams should have no part in the C.L.
Just answer this; would or wouldn't the C.L be stronger with likes of Milan and Man City?
Well, yes, there are always exceptions. However, that's not the point I was aiming for. What I mean is that teams that have no chance in the compeition, teams that don't have the players to trouble the big teams should have no part in the C.L.
Just answer this; would or wouldn't the C.L be stronger with likes of Milan and Man City?
What you are speaking about is getting dangerously close to suggesting that a bunch of the 'top' teams from across Europe break away from their domestic leagues and just form a European Super League.
That would be brilliant in my opinion. Imagine watching a league where every tie is entertaining, excting, and top class. I mean seriously, would you rather watch Barca- Milan, or Barca -Basel? If you aren't a Barcelona fan, I doubt you will be attracted to watch the latter. However, if you were a neutral you would undoubtedly want to watch much more interesting ties such as Real Madrid - Man City, or Milan - Barcelona. But because of the way things are, we will miss those encounters dearly.
Wait, so the litmus test is whether they are better than Man City or Milan? That's silly because Milan was bad last season.
If anything this idea would widen the gap between wealthy clubs and poor clubs in Europe. That's the last thing we should want to do.
This is surprising coming from a Serie A fan. The EPL would most definitely reap the most benefits from a "Super League". Leagues from Italy, France, and Holland would probably suffer the most if such a thing were to happen.
If anything this idea would widen the gap between wealthy clubs and poor clubs in Europe. That's the last thing we should want to do.
This is surprising coming from a Serie A fan. The EPL would most definitely reap the most benefits from a "Super League". Leagues from Italy, France, and Holland would probably suffer the most if such a thing were to happen.
The litmus test if facing the top 6 sides from the top three leagues in Europe.
It would widen the gap, but it would make it much more entertaining for us fans. I don't know about you, but I could care less whether a team from Belarus gets a chance at the C.L or not. In any case, do you really think that the system we have now is effectively bridging the gap? You think Basel is now a much ftronger club because of the C.L or they may potentially get better because of the measley amounts of money they are getting.
We aren't talking about draft picks here, we're talking about a few million Euros. I hardly think that's going to make much difference.
I disagree. As a serie A fan, I think the top 6 in Italy will fair up pretty well. A lot better than the rest. Perhaps England will serve as the strongest competition.
It would widen the gap, but it would make it much more entertaining for us fans. I don't know about you, but I could care less whether a team from Belarus gets a chance at the C.L or not. In any case, do you really think that the system we have now is effectively bridging the gap? You think Basel is now a much ftronger club because of the C.L or they may potentially get better because of the measley amounts of money they are getting.
We aren't talking about draft picks here, we're talking about a few million Euros. I hardly think that's going to make much difference.
I disagree. As a serie A fan, I think the top 6 in Italy will fair up pretty well. A lot better than the rest. Perhaps England will serve as the strongest competition.
When you come to think of it, the same could be said about Juve
What he said.
The CL at least has the potential for a team to break into it. A European Super League would be disasterous for almost everyone except the top 20 or so teams and that it why it will never happen.
Man City aren't even the 5th best team in England right now. Aston Villa are better than them.
The CL at least has the potential for a team to break into it. A European Super League would be disasterous for almost everyone except the top 20 or so teams and that it why it will never happen.
When I think about the best teams missing out on the C.L, Man city and Milan are the first two teams that pop up.
Another thing you have to take into consideration is the result such a league would have on the UEFA Cup. The UEFA Cup is hardly worth anything right now, but imagine if it lost it's big league teams. It would cease to exist as a cup.
Really, I think Andy's example of a top 2 league is the best way to go. Not only does it add prestige to the competition by making it the best 2 teams in every league, but the UEFA Cup would also see a boost in competition and money.
Really, I think Andy's example of a top 2 league is the best way to go. Not only does it add prestige to the competition by making it the best 2 teams in every league, but the UEFA Cup would also see a boost in competition and money.
Don't forget about Hull.
Watching wee teams fucking over giants. It would be boring to endlessly watch massive teams playing each other.
How often when big teams play each other is it actually a good game? Almost never because the stakes are so high that both teams are more intent on not losing the game than trying to win the game.
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