[EU] Champions League 2008/2009 (26 Viewers)
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Look how high Sevilla is placed. They will be group holders next year in CL (hope we get them as group holders. Better than getting Barca, Manu, Chelsea or Pool 
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It's only because of their success in UEFA.
The last standings , yes
This is the official standing and all the results are included.
).It's only because of their success in UEFA.
The last standings , yes
This is the official standing and all the results are included.
Modric better player than Xavi? 
Anyway, Vlatko might be exaggerating a bit, but Modric is indeed a very good and complete player. Unfortunately for me and other Croats, he's the only one in our NT. The others are just solid or average. But Luka's got it and i have no doubt that in a year or two all of you will say the same.
The discussion about Xavi was silly, btw. You can't possibly know if he'll do good or bad with weaker players. What counts is that he's doing amazing with Barca and Spain.
I think there are better Croats player than Modric. Modric has failed this season in EPL with one average club. Nothing special in him so far to be compared with the likes of Diego.
I said that last night. Discussing the "Let Xavi play with other teams and you'll see" is more than silly. Seven started this silly discussion
Seriously, Xavi has been on top since two years now. The man is such a key player and brilliant at the same time.
I said that last night. Discussing the "Let Xavi play with other teams and you'll see" is more than silly. Seven started this silly discussion
Seriously, Xavi has been on top since two years now. The man is such a key player and brilliant at the same time.
I'm sorry Rab but this just go to show you've absolutely no idea about Modric.He is by far our best player.
He didn't fail at all with Tottenham. From relegation battlers he and Tottenham finished 8th and Luka was Tottenham's best and most consistent player the whole season. As personal records go, he was 2 assists shy of being first assister in EPL.
He didn't fail at all with Tottenham. From relegation battlers he and Tottenham finished 8th and Luka was Tottenham's best and most consistent player the whole season. As personal records go, he was 2 assists shy of being first assister in EPL.
Iniesta is brilliant too.
Btw you mentioned something about Iniesta's vision being better than Xavi. I think Xavi's vision on the field and the way he reads the game is what makes him currently the best midfielder ATM. Too many assists in a position that requires something else from him.
Barcelona's 2nd goal proves my point.
Again, apologies for misunderstanding the last part.
Btw you mentioned something about Iniesta's vision being better than Xavi. I think Xavi's vision on the field and the way he reads the game is what makes him currently the best midfielder ATM. Too many assists in a position that requires something else from him.
Barcelona's 2nd goal proves my point.
Again, apologies for misunderstanding the last part.
I won't go into the Diego-Modric discussion but i know for sure that there aren't better Croat players than Modric at the moment.
And i also think that he didn't fail in EPL. He started bad but ever since the coach change he was the leading man and the best player in the team. He was one of the the main reasons, if not the main one, they jumped from last place to 8th place.
He was almost the best assistman in the league (only two less than the best assistman Van Persie) and he almost singlehandedly controlled their midfield (In the matches i've seen that is). He also made it many times in team of the week.
I think he had a solid season overall and only the bad start doesn't make it a very good season. Now that he's not a newbie anymore, i expect him to be one of the best in EPL next year.
And i also think that he didn't fail in EPL. He started bad but ever since the coach change he was the leading man and the best player in the team. He was one of the the main reasons, if not the main one, they jumped from last place to 8th place.
He was almost the best assistman in the league (only two less than the best assistman Van Persie) and he almost singlehandedly controlled their midfield (In the matches i've seen that is). He also made it many times in team of the week.
I think he had a solid season overall and only the bad start doesn't make it a very good season. Now that he's not a newbie anymore, i expect him to be one of the best in EPL next year.
But expecting too much from him isn't wise I think. That's why the likes of me and Andy for example don't see something special in him because for example you and vlatko are putting high expectations on him ever since the Euros.
I hope he proves me wrong next year. I'll be the first one to bow down for you and specially vlatko.
I hope he proves me wrong next year. I'll be the first one to bow down for you and specially vlatko.
No,no,no Rab. There aren't any better players in the Croatian national team than Modrić, that's for sure. Anyways, the one thing which Modrić isn't getting on this forum is time; many great players need time to settle into a new club or new leagues, their playing style need to adjust. I mean Modrić did have an advantage by playing Zrinjski Mostar as that league is similar to the EPL in terms of physicality and pace.
At the beggining of this season Tottenham had the worst start in the history of their existance, with Juande Ramos, but this is the story with Tottenham all the time as their always expected to crack 'The Big 4' but choke. The same Juande Ramos who had a near perfect record with Real Madrid at one point this season mind you. Redknapp came in an brought in Ćorluka which clearly helped Modrić settle in better into the league. You shouldn't underestimate Modrić at the end of the day he did very well considering in was his first year, as he was high on the assist list as vlatko said. He showed glimpses of what he was capable many times, did you watch the match against Manure?
It's common that 'big' players need time, look at Drogba when he first moved from Marseille, in his first season he was utter shite, the season after he blew up. Modrić will show his true potential come next year, it's difficult when your at Tottenham and entering a new league. Had Modrić been supported with the players at Barcelona of course his performance would have been better stats-wise too. With that stance/logic you could call Diego a flop at Porto too then, no?
At the beggining of this season Tottenham had the worst start in the history of their existance, with Juande Ramos, but this is the story with Tottenham all the time as their always expected to crack 'The Big 4' but choke. The same Juande Ramos who had a near perfect record with Real Madrid at one point this season mind you. Redknapp came in an brought in Ćorluka which clearly helped Modrić settle in better into the league. You shouldn't underestimate Modrić at the end of the day he did very well considering in was his first year, as he was high on the assist list as vlatko said. He showed glimpses of what he was capable many times, did you watch the match against Manure?
It's common that 'big' players need time, look at Drogba when he first moved from Marseille, in his first season he was utter shite, the season after he blew up. Modrić will show his true potential come next year, it's difficult when your at Tottenham and entering a new league. Had Modrić been supported with the players at Barcelona of course his performance would have been better stats-wise too. With that stance/logic you could call Diego a flop at Porto too then, no?
The whole team started poorly. Juande Ramos got everything wrong. Since Harry came, Modric and the whole team started playing much, much better. To be close to the top on the assists table, team of the week a number of times, with a few goals to boot is a pretty good season in the EPL.
We've seen him a lot more than you folks. This kid has carried our whole NT on his shoulders against the likes of England, Germany, etc. He's incredible. Skilful, intelligent, hardworking and mature. He can take it.
I'll be more than happy to say that for Diego but my doubts for him still stand. I hope I'm wrong, even more so because he signed for us.
We've seen him a lot more than you folks. This kid has carried our whole NT on his shoulders against the likes of England, Germany, etc. He's incredible. Skilful, intelligent, hardworking and mature. He can take it.
I'll be more than happy to say that for Diego but my doubts for him still stand. I hope I'm wrong, even more so because he signed for us.
In my opinion, Iniesta is the probably the best central midfielder in the world currently. Numbers aside, I think he gives Barcelona much more than Xavi. After Messi, he is their key player.
Xavi is good, he's efficient, hardworking with good vision but he can't "break" the game as good, or as often, as Iniesta. He is a fantastic dribbler, with incredible technique and vision, he's got it all. Xavi is the one orchestrating and connecting the dots, but IMO without the players beside him, he will not shine as much. Iniesta is a match-decider, he is the one who's brilliant even if he has half the assists Xavi has.
Xavi is good, he's efficient, hardworking with good vision but he can't "break" the game as good, or as often, as Iniesta. He is a fantastic dribbler, with incredible technique and vision, he's got it all. Xavi is the one orchestrating and connecting the dots, but IMO without the players beside him, he will not shine as much. Iniesta is a match-decider, he is the one who's brilliant even if he has half the assists Xavi has.
I think there are better Croats player than Modric. Modric has failed this season in EPL with one average club. Nothing special in him so far to be compared with the likes of Diego.
I said that last night. Discussing the "Let Xavi play with other teams and you'll see" is more than silly. Seven started this silly discussion
Seriously, Xavi has been on top since two years now. The man is such a key player and brilliant at the same time.
I said that last night. Discussing the "Let Xavi play with other teams and you'll see" is more than silly. Seven started this silly discussion
Seriously, Xavi has been on top since two years now. The man is such a key player and brilliant at the same time.
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