[EU] Champions League 2008/2009 (38 Viewers)

[Snoop]

in other words, We need two of the red teams to disqualify so that we make the 2nd pot.

 

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[Snoop]

This one is easy to calculate.

Making it to the CL group stages gives you 3 points
A win in CL and UEFA gives you 2 points
A draw in CL and UEFA gives you 1 point
Making it to another stage gives you 1 bonus point

At the end you also get some points (but not much, around 1 or 2 points) from your country's coefficient.

With an example :

Juve made it to group stages = 3 points
Juve won 3 times in group stages = 6 points (3 wins x 2)
Juve drew 3 times in group stages = 3 points (3 draws x 1)
Juve passed the group = 1 point
Juve drew with Chelsea = 1 point
Italy's coefficient this year was 2.275 points
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Total = 16.275 points

That's how many points we won this year. Barca for example won 28.6 points, Manchester won 28 points, Inter won 13.275 points etc.

Dumb Inter

It's not fair that CL and UEFA's wins have the same values

 

[JCK]

Dumb Inter

It's not fair that CL and UEFA's wins have the same values

Why not? A win in the CL can be Milan over Madrid for example where a win in UEFA can be Ajax over PSG.

 

[Alen]

Dumb Inter

It's not fair that CL and UEFA's wins have the same values

Why not? A win in the CL can be Milan over Madrid for example where a win in UEFA can be Ajax over PSG.

IIRC many other team officials said the same thing Snoop said here and there are some tough discussions going on about this. The last i read was that some changes will be made soon and a win in UEFA will start bringing less points than a win in CL.
But nothing is official yet because many teams oppose this.

 

[Snoop]

yeah but Milan had the opportunity to get loads of points from there (but they failed ofcourse), next year Roma, werder (If they qualified) or our other rivals (in UEFA's standing) will enjoy it against small teams, at the time we will have to play against the best teams in Europe. Not fair at all..

 

[Stephan]

yeah but Milan had the opportunity to get loads of points from there (but they failed ofcourse), next year Roma, werder (If they qualified) or our other rivals (in UEFA's standing) will enjoy it against small teams, at the time we will have to play against the best teams in Europe. Not fair at all..

maybe they change the system, with the europe league. :xfinger:

 

[Alen]

in other words, We need two of the red teams to disqualify so that we make the 2nd pot.

Two of the black teams is what you mean i guess
Yes, Villareal not to be 4th and then all we need is two of Lyon, Sporting, Arsenal, Shakhtar, and if there is God Milan too, to play against eachother in the qualifiers.
And since there will be only 10 teams in that last round, if 4 or 5 of the teams are the teams i mentioned above then there is a huuuuuuuge possibility that two of them will play eachother.
And even if they don't play eachother, there is still a chance that some other team (Stuttgart, Fiorentina etc) will disqualify one of these teams in the qualifiers.

I'm pretty sure that we'll make pot 2 in the end. It will take a lot of bad luck to end in pot 3.

 

[Snoop]

IIRC many other team officials said the same thing Snoop said here and there are some tough discussions going on about this. The last i read was that some changes will be made soon and a win in UEFA will start bringing less points than a win in CL.
But nothing is official yet because many teams oppose this.

btw, the list you gave is it the last standing, I mean are all the results (including the CL final) calculated this fast? or the results of this year will be calculated for next year's standing?

 

[Alen]

yeah but Milan had the opportunity to get loads of points from there (but they failed ofcourse), next year Roma, werder (If they qualified) or our other rivals (in UEFA's standing) will enjoy it against small teams, at the time we will have to play against the best teams in Europe. Not fair at all..

Look how high Sevilla is placed. They will be group holders next year in CL (hope we get them as group holders. Better than getting Barca, Manu, Chelsea or Pool ).
It's only because of their success in UEFA.

btw, the list you gave is it the last standing, I mean are all the results (including the CL final) calculated this fast? or the results of this year will be calculated for next year's standing?

The last standings , yes
This is the official standing and all the results are included.

 

[Snoop]

Two of the black teams is what you mean i guess
Yes, Villareal not to be 4th and then all we need is two of Lyon, Sporting, Arsenal, Shakhtar, and if there is God Milan too, to play against eachother in the qualifiers.
And since there will be only 10 teams in that last round, if 4 or 5 of the teams are the teams i mentioned above then there is a huuuuuuuge possibility that two of them will play eachother.
And even if they don't play eachother, there is still a chance that some other team (Stuttgart, Fiorentina etc) will disqualify one of these teams in the qualifiers.

I'm pretty sure that we'll make pot 2 in the end. It will take a lot of bad luck to end in pot 3.

yeah I meant black teams. I have no doubt about the second pot neither, possibility is very very high. Specially after the new rule (when strong teams meet each others in qualifications).

 

[Azzurri7]

Give it a fvcking rest already, the dude was MOM in euro and been absolute sick ever since, I mena for fuck sake, he has 35 assists this season, YES, read it again, if you dont bother to acknowledge that he has been the best midfielder around in this entire season (due to insane bias), with his only competition being Iniesta, then perhaps the stats should frigging tell you something. The dude assists FOR FUN. I mean, did you EVEN watch el classico? He assisted 4 goals like they were NOTHING.

Also keeping in mind that his position requires something else from him other than to pass. Apart from the assists he has scored pretty lot of goals for CM as-well.

You're so predictable. Each time someone makes a valid point, you bring on the retard business. Really adds to your arguement.

No, Xavi is not an amazing player. Not close to Fabregas, not close to Pirlo. Deal with it. Put him in any other team than Barcelona, he'd sink without a trace. He's good, but not as good as you make him out to be. He ain't the brains of that team.

And again, yes, Modric is the better player.

This has to be the funniest thing I read since sometime now.

Xavi isn't close to Fabregas and Pirlo? Pirlo the one that can't run to save his life? Yeah okay.

 

[ThePLaya]

van dar sar we know that messi midget

but the point is why ur tongue is out ?

huuuuuuuuuuh

 

[Stephan]

van dar sar we know that messi midget

but the point is why ur tongue is out ?

huuuuuuuuuuh

what about the man on your avatar?

 

[ThePLaya]

unbelievable messi scored by his head

huh

 

[ThePLaya]

what about the man on your avatar?

the legend

 

[Seven]

You, sir, are a wanker.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

where the fuck is this barca love coming from?

huh

 

[Stephan]

the legend

yeah but do you know where that tongue has been to?

 

[Seven]

Utterly ridiculous to keep bragging about Barcelona on a Juventus forum.

 

[ThePLaya]

yeah but do you know where that tongue has been to?

no

since 1996

i would like to see it in 2010