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Bjerknes

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Honestly, Italian teams have looked very embarrassing thus far in the Champions League. We have with this draw, Roma against Cluj, and also Viola with Steaua. Pretty bad for Italian football if you ask me.
 

.zero

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Honestly, Italian teams have looked very embarrassing thus far in the Champions League. We have with this draw, Roma against Cluj, and also Viola with Steaua. Pretty bad for Italian football if you ask me.
minus milan winning the cup 2yrs ago, italian teams overall are an embarrassment in this tourney

need i remind you of roma giving up 6 goals in the first 20mins of the game against manure 2 yrs ago?
 

Bjerknes

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not to sound like a romanista or azzurri-homo... but dude, its totti
But Totti isn't a striker like a Trezeguet or Amauri. It just doesn't make any sense. He should be playing behind the strikers or loan striker, but no, he's playing out of position. They rely on him not only to create, but to score as well. It's a friggin' trap.
 

.zero

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currently italian soccer is the equivalent of the national league west of baseball

check that - simply the national league of baseball
 

Joaco

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But Totti isn't a striker like a Trezeguet or Amauri. It just doesn't make any sense. He should be playing behind the strikers or loan striker, but no, he's playing out of position. They rely on him not only to create, but to score as well. It's a friggin' trap.
The idea of using Totti as a striker it was because they had Mancini, so the guy could run direct to the goal and try to score. Kind of the tactic Cruyff used with his "total football". Now with Vucinic the tactic lose a bit of "sense" because he is supposed to be a "9", but they lose Mancini, he was a key player for Roma.
 

Bjerknes

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The idea of using Totti as a striker it was because they had Mancini, so the guy could run direct to the goal and try to score. Kind of the tactic Cruyff used with his "total football". Now with Vucinic the tactic lose a bit of "sense" because he is supposed to be a "9", but they lose Mancini, he was a key player for Roma.
I didn't think much of it when they play Totti as striker. They played beautiful football, but Totti, being the only striker, wasn't in position to score a lot of times. That IMO would hamper their football.

But that's just me. I'd always use a goal scorer/poacher up top. It's the best way to go.
 

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Honestly, Italian teams have looked very embarrassing thus far in the Champions League. We have with this draw, Roma against Cluj, and also Viola with Steaua. Pretty bad for Italian football if you ask me.
Well, duh...there's no Milan to do good things for Italian football.
 

Esteban

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I didn't think much of it when they play Totti as striker. They played beautiful football, but Totti, being the only striker, wasn't in position to score a lot of times.
:crazy:

He won the Golden Shoe for best goal scorer in Europe 06/07 playing in that position, scoring 26 Serie A goals.
 

Esteban

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minus milan winning the cup 2yrs ago, italian teams overall are an embarrassment in this tourney
Italian teams won the European Cup/CL 11 times and were runners up 14 times, the English and the Spanish won it 11 times aswell but were runners up only 5 and 9 times. I know you meant the most recent history but still.
 

Bjerknes

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:crazy:

He won the Golden Shoe for best goal scorer in Europe 06/07 playing in that position, scoring 26 Serie A goals.
So what? He's a great player. But it's just stupid to play an attacking midfielder as a striker. It's dumb and Roma hurt due to that idiocy. They became even more dependent on Totti with that move.
 
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