[EU] Champions League 2007/2008 (35 Viewers)
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In the game of a caliber of a CL quarterfinal, I would expect more restraint from a ref to let the players determine the outcome more than the whims of the 23rd guy on the pitch.
Just as I thought the Helb was the rightly considered a non-call last week, this incident was even a weaker case and should have never been made. The TV announcers were calling today's match a "classic", but none of my classics involve dodgy late ref calls as the game-changer.
Arsenal weren't the only ones robbed. I wanted to see both teams lose. But in the end, the spectators lost. I feel robbed of the first 83 minutes of what was an evolving into interesting match. Ruined by a moment of frivolity. :frown: I now want a refund on those 83 minutes of my life wasted watching this match.
Just as I thought the Helb was the rightly considered a non-call last week, this incident was even a weaker case and should have never been made. The TV announcers were calling today's match a "classic", but none of my classics involve dodgy late ref calls as the game-changer.
Arsenal weren't the only ones robbed. I wanted to see both teams lose. But in the end, the spectators lost. I feel robbed of the first 83 minutes of what was an evolving into interesting match. Ruined by a moment of frivolity. :frown: I now want a refund on those 83 minutes of my life wasted watching this match.
senderos was still trying to figure out how he was on the pitch, toure was trying to figure out what pills wenger was on playing the big liability in a CL QF
firstly it was outside the box last night and last weeks was much more of a pen but liverpools famous luck continues
what gets me is why arsenal are the only team in the world that does not know to show babel down the wing, his delivery with the left foot is truly awful. in toure's defense though, if you looked up and seen a player bearing down on senderos then i am sure you would do anything to stop him as well
this is what it all boils down to, arsenal were controlling teh game, cruising in fact, when liverpool scored they got very edgy,knocked off their stride and intimidated by the crowd. as much as i hate manure, arsenal could do with learning a bit from them
good to see you are taking it well
totally agreed that arsenal lost a lot of their edge when he went off, he was detailed to stop gerrard when he cut infield and was doing a damned fine job of it too. still though, arsenal need to have a look at why they are so mentally weak in these situations, they should have stuck to the game plan and kept the ball, frustrating liverpool,but they constantly panicked and were far too intimidated. if arsenal do not solve this then they can wave goodbye to any chance of ever making the CL final again.
firstly it was outside the box last night and last weeks was much more of a pen but liverpools famous luck continues
what gets me is why arsenal are the only team in the world that does not know to show babel down the wing, his delivery with the left foot is truly awful. in toure's defense though, if you looked up and seen a player bearing down on senderos then i am sure you would do anything to stop him as well
this is what it all boils down to, arsenal were controlling teh game, cruising in fact, when liverpool scored they got very edgy,knocked off their stride and intimidated by the crowd. as much as i hate manure, arsenal could do with learning a bit from them
good to see you are taking it well
totally agreed that arsenal lost a lot of their edge when he went off, he was detailed to stop gerrard when he cut infield and was doing a damned fine job of it too. still though, arsenal need to have a look at why they are so mentally weak in these situations, they should have stuck to the game plan and kept the ball, frustrating liverpool,but they constantly panicked and were far too intimidated. if arsenal do not solve this then they can wave goodbye to any chance of ever making the CL final again.
bozi pretty sums it up really so there is no point of me adding any more points
any way hard luck fred i know u r pissed off but next cl u should be able to learn from last nights mistakes. if memeory serves me right i think u were the one who hated adebayour and last night i figured out why but things like that happen i guess. yr team played really well.
congrats to enron and good luck in the coming games.
any way hard luck fred i know u r pissed off but next cl u should be able to learn from last nights mistakes. if memeory serves me right i think u were the one who hated adebayour and last night i figured out why but things like that happen i guess. yr team played really well.
congrats to enron and good luck in the coming games.
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The fact that in the first match, a Ducth ref didn't blow for a faul made by a Dutch player (surely pure coincidence)
Feel sorry for you fred.
The first one more then the second.
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Feel sorry for you fred.
The first one more then the second.
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About Arsenal, i didn't see the game but everyone is saying that they owned liverpool. Its just a bit too much of the same from the gunners, owning a team but can't finish them off. It will always haunt you and especially if its liverpool (a very lucky team)
TBh arsenal didn't OWN anybody. they played a tremendous opening 25 minutes but got spooked by liverpools goal, when the crowd got behind pool again aresnal simply did not have a calm head to lead them through.
funny alan hanson got pelters for years saying "you won't win anything with kids" only for manure to win the title. the difference is that manure had a solid backbone, when arsenal won the title under wenger they had the likes of winterburn, adams, keown and later when they won teh title again vieira had grown into a good leader. this is arsenals problem, they do not have someone who can lead their team in a difficult situation, they get too spooked and have no real leadership on the pitch.it is times like this that they could do with a sol campbell type defender or a gatusso type midfielder
until this is sorted i very much doubt their capability to win anything and doubt that will change unless they either a) they grow as a team and get used to the pressure and earn that mental toughness or b) buy a good solid CB and a leader on the pitch(maybe a DM) who can take a game by the scruff of the neck
You're crazy man. Liverpool don't have that kind of pull in the EPL, let alone the Champions League. Face it, we are just lucky.
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funny alan hanson got pelters for years saying "you won't win anything with kids" only for manure to win the title. the difference is that manure had a solid backbone, when arsenal won the title under wenger they had the likes of winterburn, adams, keown and later when they won teh title again vieira had grown into a good leader. this is arsenals problem, they do not have someone who can lead their team in a difficult situation, they get too spooked and have no real leadership on the pitch.it is times like this that they could do with a sol campbell type defender or a gatusso type midfielder
until this is sorted i very much doubt their capability to win anything and doubt that will change unless they either a) they grow as a team and get used to the pressure and earn that mental toughness or b) buy a good solid CB and a leader on the pitch(maybe a DM) who can take a game by the scruff of the neck
You're crazy man. Liverpool don't have that kind of pull in the EPL, let alone the Champions League. Face it, we are just lucky.
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