[EU] Champions League 04/05 (24 Viewers)

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
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Diego isn't ready yet though. I'd play something like this if I was in charge of Brazil:

Dida
Lucio Edmilson Cris
Mancini Emerson Juninho Carlos
Ronaldinho
Ronaldo Adriano

If Ronaldo or Adriano were unavailable Kaka would come in to a 3-4-2-1 system.
 

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Nicole

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Sep 16, 2004
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That would be good, problem is though, is that, that team would get murdered by any team with world-class wingers. And most teams play 4-4-2. Whilst I think he is a far better winger, I believe Mancini can play at right-back, so that would be an opinion if that team starting playing badly.
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++
That would be good, problem is though, is that, that team would get murdered by any team with world-class wingers. And most teams play 4-4-2. Whilst I think he is a far better winger, I believe Mancini can play at right-back, so that would be an opinion if that team starting playing badly.
Both Mancini and Roberto Carlos can play full back that's why I have them in my team. They're both adept at attacking but are also familiar with a more defensive role. They would help out the back three as well as get forward down the flanks. Emerson would play his holding role as usual with Juninho and Ronaldinho pulling the strings behind the front two.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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Past winners to the fore
Thursday, 24 February 2005

While Spain's two representatives are fêted in print for their performances in the UEFA Champions League, today's newspapers make grim reading for Chelsea FC and Manchester United FC. uefa.com rounds up the European media reaction to this week's first-leg ties in the last 16 of club football's premier competition.

FC Barcelona 2-1 Chelsea FC
Last night's game produced a predictable score from an unexpected script. In effect, Barça claimed a modest 2-1 victory against Chelsea in the first round of this passionate European tie; a result that leaves everything hanging in the balance. Yet Barça did everything - from scoring an own goal to mounting a brave fightback. (El Mundo Deportivo, Spain)

José Mourinho was lost for words last night, but it was not Barcelona who took his breath away, despite their clear superiority. A tunnel fracas involving backroom staff from both clubs convinced the Chelsea manager to walk out of the Nou Camp without saying a word about his team's 2-1 defeat. (The Times, England)

Werder Bremen 0-3 Olympique Lyonnais
It has been a long time since Werder were taken apart at home the way Lyon did in their 3-0 win: now nobody believes Bremen will reach the next round. Lyon were committed, quick, skilful and courageous and Werder now know why they are the reigning champions in France. (Bild, Germany)

It's a genuine achievement Lyon recorded yesterday at the Weserstadion and it is now all but unbelievable to see the German side coming and stealing their UEFA Champions League quarter-final ticket. In front of the TF1 television cameras, Lyon have earned the sort of media acknowledgement they had been waiting for so long, a night to remember later with relatives during long winter evenings. (L'Equipe, France)

Manchester United FC 0-1 AC Milan
At a stroke Crespo's goal smashed the formula that has served Ferguson well in European football; land the knockout blow at Old Trafford and hold the line away from home. This was United's first European defeat at home in four years and in that time they have generally performed feebly in the great stadiums of Europe. (The Independent, England)

The real devils are red and black. AC Milan had never won in England before and this was their first success. Although they cannot underestimate Manchester United, if Milan play like they did yesterday, the devils in red and black will not lose at San Siro. (Gazzetta dello Sport, Italy)

FC Porto 1-1 FC Internazionale Milano
Porto only have themselves to blame for the draw against Inter. The tie is not decided but it is certain that the Dragons have to score in Italy. The result means Inter have the advantage, yet Porto proved in the second half that they can impress in Italy. (A Bola, Portugal)

Inter played a perfect first half – like a real team, always balanced and with every player helping each other out – and were clearly better than the European champions. They always seem to miss something when striving to achieve great results, but will surely qualify if they don't lose their nerve in two weeks. (Corriere dello Sport, Italy)

FC Bayern München 3-1 Arsenal FC
The goal just before the end was very disappointing. For 88 minutes of the match the home side were in charge and took a 3-0 lead. But then Bayern lacked concentration at the back for a second and Arsenal pulled a goal back. That silly goal could have been avoided, because it was Bayern's evening from the word go. (Süddeutsche Zeitung, Germany)

Kolo Touré's late goal has given Arsenal hope where there seemed none but Arsène Wenger's team remain not just down but in serious danger of going out. Defensive and goalkeeping frailties have dogged them all season and were brutally exposed by Bayern. The English champions face an uphill task and there was nothing to suggest that Arsenal will keep the clean sheet that will be vital. (The Guardian, England)

Liverpool FC 3-1 Bayer 04 Leverkusen
A 3-1 win over Bayer Leverkusen would have been grasped hungrily if Rafael Benítez had been offered it beforehand, but his players had edged so close to perfection that the final whistle could only bring a twinge of regret. (The Times, England)

As they left the field in their dirty white shirts, the Bayer players looked very disappointed. They put up a great fight in Liverpool, creating numerous chances to finally get a Bundesliga team's first win at Anfield but none the less slipping to a 3-1 defeat. (Express, Germany)

Real Madrid CF 1-0 Juventus FC
Zidane came in from the cold - or from wherever he has been hiding for the last few months - and directed Madrid to a simple, if not conclusive, victory. But Juventus disappointed, some players not showing why they merited being in the starting lineup of one of the most prestigious clubs in the world. (El País, Spain)

Even if everything is far more difficult, it's not over yet. Real Madrid's attacking power is lethal and they could have scored more than just one goal. Capello has two weeks to find the team which dominated the group stage. Real gave the Bianconeri a lesson in good football. Now Juve have to answer. (Gazzetta dello Sport, Italy)

PSV Eindhoven 1-0 AS Monaco FC
Getting through the winter in Europe has for so long been an obsession for PSV, but their already historical breakthrough in the Champions League could be set to continue after their perfect performance against Monaco. (De Volkskrant, Netherlands)

Monaco's defeat was to be expected considering the development of the game at the Philips stadium. Revengeful and comfortable with the ball, PSV edged the debates, flexed their muscle and even made a good impression for an hour before the game became uninteresting. (L'Equipe, France)

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,166
++ [ originally posted by Erik ] ++


Piss off, Nesta played one of his worst matches of the season. He made several mistakes and got passed by on a couple of accounts in a really dumb manner.
I really cannot agree. Nesta was effortlessly stripping Rooney of the ball, and I did not see him making that many mistakes. Maybe an average Nesta is still a world class Nesta.
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++
Brazil really do have three top knotch playmakers in Ronaldinho, Kaka and Juninho. It's a pity all three can't play at the same time.
In Nigeria, it is said that Brazil can present 5 teams at any given World Cup and all 5 will make the quarters. IMO there's some truth in that statement.

I envy the abundance of talent those people have! :mad: It's so unfair on the rest of us!
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
++ [ originally posted by Blandest ] ++


well i dont know about that, but its certainly unfair on nigeria :D
You are English ja?

If memory serves me correct, Brazil have always beaten England. Nigeria has never met Brazil in the World Cup, but the only high profile match in which we met, we licked them.
 

Turdhead

Chickenegro no funny
Jan 14, 2005
3,106
++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++


You are English ja?

If memory serves me correct, Brazil have always beaten England. Nigeria has never met Brazil in the World Cup, but the only high profile match in which we met, we licked them.
I was talking about talent. England have some, Nigeria have none.

So when compared, its unfair on Nigeria not us :D

And come on, you licked them? lol big deal. Dosent prove a think.
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
++ [ originally posted by Blandest ] ++


I was talking about talent. England have some, Nigeria have none.

So when compared, its unfair on Nigeria not us :D

And come on, you licked them? lol big deal. Dosent prove a think.

Talent?

England more than Nigeria?

Give me a break!!!

Roll out your best England 11....

I am waiting...
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
++ [ originally posted by chelski ] ++
i've got to agree with that.nor is there any English player as talented as Okocha:cool:
Thanks Chelski, but I didn't want to bring Okocha into this as it would be degrading to compare him with one of those media hyped and overrated humans!
 

chelski

Junior Member
Feb 20, 2005
66
++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++


Thanks Chelski, but I didn't want to bring Okocha into this as it would be degrading to compare him with one of those media hyped and overrated humans !
Beckham and Rooney being at the top of that extremely long list:D
 

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