[EU] Champions League 04/05 (28 Viewers)

[vitoria_Ally]

++ [ originally posted by Darin ] ++
valencia

I was more :broken: than

I cant wait to see replay, highlights never show everything what happened.

 

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[_Emerson]

++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
Barca hit the woodwork twice against Milan, so don't rule out a Barca win in the return leg

I dont, but to say Milan will be showed real football is just bullshit, disrespectfull, we are talking about Milan who has won far more important eurocup trophies than Barca, they are fully capable to trash Barca at camp nou if they want.

Woodwork is woodwork nothing more, the fact that long shots was the only weapon Barca had shows that Milan knew how to "take care" of them.

 

[gray]

Oh, I thought you were simply saying that Barca wouldn't win...

I agree with you that Barca won't school Milan, because they're both teams of a very high calibre.

 

[Darin]

++ [ originally posted by vitoria_Ally ] ++


I was more :broken: than

I cant wait to see replay, highlights never show everything what happened.

inter were simply better but 5 was really 2 much :down:

 

[W.Sneijder -18-]

Possible scenario's after the next fixtures in our group seen in a Ajax-perspective(this is going to be VERY long, but all the scenario's will be used up to Matchday 5 or it will be TOO many:

Remaining matches:

Maccabi Tel-Aviv - Ajax
Juventus - Ajax
Ajax - Bayern

Bayern - Juventus
Bayern - Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Ajax- Bayern

Bayern - Juventus
Juventus - Ajax
Maccabi Tel-Aviv - Juventus

Maccabi Tel-Aviv - Ajax
Bayern - Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Maccabi Tel-Aviv - Juventus

Current Standing:

Juventus 9 points (Goals For: 3) (Goals Against: 0)
Bayern 6 points (Goals For: 5) (Goals Against: 1)
Ajax 3 points (Goals For: 3) (Goals Against: 5)
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points (Goals For: 0) (Goals Against: 5)

If Ajax wins against Maccabi and Juve wins against Bayern in Matchday 4, goal saldo not counted:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Ajax 9 points
Bayern 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Ajax 9 points
Bayern 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Ajax 7 points
Bayern 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax wins against Maccabi and Juve draws against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Ajax 9 points
Bayern 8 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Ajax 9 points
Bayern 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax wins against Maccabi and Juve loses against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 9 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 12 points
Juventus 9 points
Ajax 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 10 points
Juventus 9 points
Ajax 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 9 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 12 points
Juventus 10 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 12 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Maccabi and Juve wins against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Ajax 7 points
Bayern 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax drawsagainst Maccabi and Juve draws against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi 1 point

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Maccabi and Juve loses against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 9 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 12 points
Juventus 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 10 points
Juventus 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 9 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 12 points
Juventus 10 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 12 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax loses against Maccabi and Juve wins against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 3 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 9 oints
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points
Ajax 4 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 3 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points
Ajax 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points
Ajax 3 points

If Ajax loses against Maccabi and Juve draws against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 3 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points
Ajax 4 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 3 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 8 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points
Ajax 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points
Ajax 3 points

If Ajax loses against Maccabi and Juve loses against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 9 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 3 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 12 points
Juventus 9 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 10 points
Juventus 9 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 9 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 12 points
Juventus 10 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points
Ajax 4 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 12 points
Ajax 3 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 10 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points
Ajax 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points
Ajax 3 points

Conclusion, if Ajax wins against Maccabi and if Bayern loses or draws, Ajax still have chance to advance to the 2nd round. It will be hard for Juventus not to qualify, they have to lose at least 2 matches from now on to eventually not be qualified for the 2nd round.

 

[vitoria_Ally]

++ [ originally posted by Darin ] ++



inter were simply better but 5 was really 2 much :down:

And Valencia's defenders forgot what their job is for those few minutes.

 

[_Emerson]

Valencia's defenders are the worst ever in a major club. But its no excuse Inter deserve the praise.

 

[vitoria_Ally]

Valencia always had and have the best defenders in La Liga.
Yesterday: oh well, sh*t happens.

 

[gray]

They had the best defence in Europe for a while

 

[_Emerson]

++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
They had the best defence in Europe for a while

yeah sure

 

[gray]

ermm.. that's not a theory I pulled out of my rear end mate

 

[Desmond]

albelda,ayala and torres are some of the best defenders around,mind you,and baraja a top DM in the class of emerson and vieira.

 

[vitoria_Ally]

++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
They had the best defence in Europe for a while

Yes, they did.

 

[_Emerson]

no they didnt at all. It shouldnt be necessary to explain.

 

[vitoria_Ally]

It isnt necessary to explain at all, cause they did.

 

[The Arif]

Valencia's defence was really silly. They allowed Inter players running and creating chances like they were in a training.

 

[ZhiXin]

I was wondering wad was happening to Valencia when Inter scored 5 goals in 45 mins. To think that Valencia's defence is shattered. At 1st I thought some1 was sent off again, den when I checked the report I was like...................wtf. I thought Valencia's defence was good, but little did I expect this to happen. Well maybe due to miscommuncation or something. Valencia has lost 3 matches recently. This losing streak should be ended very soon.

 

[The Arif]

++ [ originally posted by W.Sneijder -18- ] ++
Possible scenario's after the next fixtures in our group seen in a Ajax-perspective(this is going to be VERY long, but all the scenario's will be used up to Matchday 5 or it will be TOO many:

Remaining matches:

Maccabi Tel-Aviv - Ajax
Juventus - Ajax
Ajax - Bayern

Bayern - Juventus
Bayern - Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Ajax- Bayern

Bayern - Juventus
Juventus - Ajax
Maccabi Tel-Aviv - Juventus

Maccabi Tel-Aviv - Ajax
Bayern - Maccabi Tel-Aviv
Maccabi Tel-Aviv - Juventus

Current Standing:

Juventus 9 points (Goals For: 3) (Goals Against: 0)
Bayern 6 points (Goals For: 5) (Goals Against: 1)
Ajax 3 points (Goals For: 3) (Goals Against: 5)
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points (Goals For: 0) (Goals Against: 5)

If Ajax wins against Maccabi and Juve wins against Bayern in Matchday 4, goal saldo not counted:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Ajax 9 points
Bayern 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Ajax 9 points
Bayern 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Ajax 7 points
Bayern 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax wins against Maccabi and Juve draws against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Ajax 9 points
Bayern 8 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Ajax 9 points
Bayern 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax wins against Maccabi and Juve loses against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 9 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 12 points
Juventus 9 points
Ajax 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 10 points
Juventus 9 points
Ajax 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 9 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 12 points
Juventus 10 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 12 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Maccabi and Juve wins against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Ajax 7 points
Bayern 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax drawsagainst Maccabi and Juve draws against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi 1 point

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Maccabi and Juve loses against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 9 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 12 points
Juventus 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 10 points
Juventus 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 9 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 12 points
Juventus 10 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 point

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 5 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 12 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 1 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 2 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax loses against Maccabi and Juve wins against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 3 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 6 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 9 oints
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points
Ajax 4 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 3 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points
Ajax 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 15 points
Bayern 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points
Ajax 3 points

If Ajax loses against Maccabi and Juve draws against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 3 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 7 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 8 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 11 points
Bayern 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points
Ajax 4 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 3 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 8 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points
Ajax 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 13 points
Bayern 7 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points
Ajax 3 points

If Ajax loses against Maccabi and Juve loses against Bayern in Matchday 4:

Juventus 9 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 3 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

To go further with this coloured scenario:

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 12 points
Juventus 9 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 10 points
Juventus 9 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax wins against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 9 points
Bayern 9 points
Ajax 6 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Bayern 12 points
Juventus 10 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 10 points
Ajax 4 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points

If Ajax draws against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 10 points
Bayern 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points
Ajax 4 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern wins against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 12 points
Ajax 3 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern draws against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 10 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 4 points
Ajax 3 points

If Ajax loses against Juventus and Bayern loses against Maccabi in Matchday 5:

Juventus 12 points
Bayern 9 points
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 6 points
Ajax 3 points

Conclusion, if Ajax wins against Maccabi and if Bayern loses or draws, Ajax still have chance to advance to the 2nd round. It will be hard for Juventus not to qualify, they have to lose at least 2 matches from now on to eventually not be qualified for the 2nd round.

keep calculating. juve will qualify. dunno about ajax though.

 

[Elnur_E65]

Now that's what I call statistical forecasting

 

[Lilianna]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!


W.Sneijder -18- you had the patience to sit and write,calculate etc all this thing??

i wouldn't even bother to THINK that!

we all know juve will qualify first...

no need to do aaaaaalllllll this!!!!!!!!!!!!!