++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
That is where your arguement goes down the tube. I guess you are not that big on observing tactics, but clubs such as Sampdoria and Palermo are superior to most EPL sides when it comes to defending. In fact sides all the way up from Messina are superior defensively to English sides, save Lecce. The latter to me defends like an EPL team, but the difference there is that they know how to attack in the Serie A. You can tell the superiority of the Serie A to the EPL in terms of defending just by watching both leagues week in and week out, and I think its a fallacy to not admit that. I see goals week after week in the EPL that stem from stupid mistakes that I very rarely see in the Serie A, like not closing down players on the edge of the 18. Lets not forget about the the "ball-watching" disease that plagues most Premiership defenses and the subsequent holes created. This is something you rarely find in the Serie A. No offense, but you must be blind if you do not see that.
Yeah, who cares about tactics. Surely has no importance at all in football. No wonder why English sides are so pathetic in Europe.
So that is your arguement, that the EPL is not overrated because the sides try to win all the time? Your generalizations contradict your ideas about the importance of tactics in football. I know that the English are not too fond of tactics, but tactics are a very essential part of the game. The EPL is not about tactics it seems, and that is one of the reasons why English sides suck in Europe. So for this reason, among others, the EPL is not the best league in the world and is actually overrated.
Your bias is obvious from the word go and your arguments are to be honest pathetic
You say english sides suck in Europe but try and tell me that Italian sides do not
Milan aside, Italian sides have been less than inspiring in Europe, and please do not mention Juventus.
Yes you are big on tactics because for some reason you wanna prove that you know about football but from your posts its obvious that you know very little as everything to you is black and white , no grey areas.
The fact that in Italy , they do not actually attack with pace but take thier time actually evades your thinking faculty
I am not gonna bore with you with all the times that English sides have met Italian sides and seen what has happened to the so called defensive king pins, but just to refresh Arsenal5 Inter1, Roma 0 Liverpool2, Arsenal 3 Juve1, Roma 0 Arsenal3 Lazio0 Chelsea4
These results are not because of any tactical jargon you wanna spew out , its as a result of these so called tactically inept teams as u call them going for the jugular and the Italian teams not being able to cope with the pace coming at them
Its all well and good facing eachother , where the underdog is not interested in attacking but picking their moments and maybe 3 attacks in a game, how would you concede if the opposition just attacks in that way
Yes the Italian game is more to my liking but its not the be all and end all and because its to your taste, does not mean you or anybody else has the right to make a mockery of the English game cos its more politically correct to do so than maybe anyother country save America
There is nothing wrong with the English game and a lot of ppl all over the world would rather watch it than Italian, not because of the language as some ppl have alluded but for majority of ppl who are not football snubs just wanna be entertained and to them its all about goal mouth action not some chess game, they like it and prefer it
Baggio , I do not even know what you are talking about, Parma are struggling becos of financila probs but that will not deter them from raising their game against Juve becos of the hatred they have for us just like Leeds will do against Man united. It does not confirm or deny how good the league is, thats just about rivalry. The fact still remains that the lies of Messina, Udinese, palermo, Calgiari Chievo before them can shine in SerieA nowadays but I guarantee you they will be knocked out without failure in European competion at the first hurdle every time