[ENG] Premiership 2010/2011 (13 Viewers)
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Maybe Mourinho will achieve more in Europe, but I doubt he can have the same success as Fergie in winning back to back league titles.
If Fergie realized that 4-4-2 doesn't work in Europe earlier he'd have more European cups, but the old man realized that when we got knocked out in the group stage in 2005-2006 which woke him up and since then he dropped the 4-4-2 in Europe and no wonder than United managed 3 finals, 1 semifinal and 1 quarter final in those 5 years.
If Fergie realized that 4-4-2 doesn't work in Europe earlier he'd have more European cups, but the old man realized that when we got knocked out in the group stage in 2005-2006 which woke him up and since then he dropped the 4-4-2 in Europe and no wonder than United managed 3 finals, 1 semifinal and 1 quarter final in those 5 years.
Oh, and where did that money come from? Do you realize that the money Fergie spent is the money he made with the club by winning trophies? United were never a rich team, they were a midtable side in the 80's and he took them to 4 European finals and 12 league titles.
And ooh Mourinho spends more than Fergie.
And ooh Mourinho spends more than Fergie.
He also managed Porto. Why people ignore that, I don't understand. And it's not like United struggles to get the players they want because they can't afford them.
Winning Serie A with inter was nothing. Winning the treble with the chronic chokers who haven't won shit since the 60s was damn impressive. To see what they've become after he left is also telling.
Mourinho wins instantly, he doesn't take years to build his squads.
And I'm not hating on Fergie, if you'[re referring to me. I rate him, for sure. But Mourinho is the friggin' boss.
Winning Serie A with inter was nothing. Winning the treble with the chronic chokers who haven't won shit since the 60s was damn impressive. To see what they've become after he left is also telling.
Mourinho wins instantly, he doesn't take years to build his squads.
And I'm not hating on Fergie, if you'[re referring to me. I rate him, for sure. But Mourinho is the friggin' boss.
What Mourinho did with Porto is the best achievement of his career, the 2nd best achievement is winning the UCL with Inter
What Fergie did wtih Aberdeen was very impressive but that will always get overlooked as people think of Scottish football as shite.
He had that time because he was constantly successful. When he first won the league, that was the first league United won since 26 years. In the 70's and the 80's United were a FA Cup team and the league wasn't a priority.
What Fergie did wtih Aberdeen was very impressive but that will always get overlooked as people think of Scottish football as shite.
He had that time because he was constantly successful. When he first won the league, that was the first league United won since 26 years. In the 70's and the 80's United were a FA Cup team and the league wasn't a priority.
Yes, they were indeed coached by Ferguson, so credit to him. But now he's still relying on some of those same players even when he's brought in replacements over the years. Giggs and Scholes still carry a heavy load at the club even at their age, so to me, that shows a failure in transfer strategy and/or the lack of younger generations coming through the ranks. There's a reason why they label those players the glory generation at United... they were immensely talented and it wasn't only Ferguson who brought them up.
Nobody is saying he isn't a successful or talented coach. Next.
I'd actually say they are comparable feats, but I don't know very much about Scottish football back in the day. Looking at the sort of competition they played, beleaguered sides from leagues that weren't anywhere near the dominance of Serie A and England, it doesn't seem anything like Porto beating Man United and then winning the European Cup in the 21st century.
To put things into perspective here, Aberdeen beat the now defunct Waterschei in the Semi-finals. So I'm sorry, Red, I can't really take that too seriously. Not in the same league as winning the CL with Porto in an era of money football.
Absolutely. Mourinho has done that in short notice, too.
Ferguson has the entire club built around him and usually a decent amount of money to spend. Mourinho has money to spend, of course, but he still has to get his new side to buy into his system and training methods.
I'm not sure why this is even being discussed. Of course it's more difficult moving around to different leagues and being successful. You're dealing with entirely new surroundings and players.
Nobody is saying he isn't a successful or talented coach. Next.
I'd actually say they are comparable feats, but I don't know very much about Scottish football back in the day. Looking at the sort of competition they played, beleaguered sides from leagues that weren't anywhere near the dominance of Serie A and England, it doesn't seem anything like Porto beating Man United and then winning the European Cup in the 21st century.
To put things into perspective here, Aberdeen beat the now defunct Waterschei in the Semi-finals. So I'm sorry, Red, I can't really take that too seriously. Not in the same league as winning the CL with Porto in an era of money football.
Absolutely. Mourinho has done that in short notice, too.
Ferguson has the entire club built around him and usually a decent amount of money to spend. Mourinho has money to spend, of course, but he still has to get his new side to buy into his system and training methods.
I'm not sure why this is even being discussed. Of course it's more difficult moving around to different leagues and being successful. You're dealing with entirely new surroundings and players.