[ENG] Premiership 2009/2010 (7 Viewers)

[Suns]

He's probably going to sign the easier ones, Dzeko, Ribery, Suarez, Di Maria.. One of those hot shots outside of the big 3.

 

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[Stephan]

WTF

 

[Firestarter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9jmJvOPzNI
WTF

I think they're moving a section of La Pinetina to Manchester via the Death Star from Star Wars...

 

[Ford Prefect]

can i just say, i was fucking right about mancini and chiellini

 

[Stephan]

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/
Mancinis english seems very good. (video on the website)

 

[IrishZebra]

Mancini

well done city, really well done

 

[Stephan]

Mancini

well done city, really well done

This coming after our board gave Ciro 2 more games for ultimatum.

 

[Ian]

In what frigging way is Mancini worse? Hughes career has been nothing but making a defensive hardworking butchering team with small time Blackburn, and then this mess with City, rightfully sacked, they gave time to say the least, and what he repayed them with is 2-3 goals conceaded every game, not winning 2 games in a 2 for over 3 months, and 1 single 1 in 10 games, thats exactly not repaying them for their big investments and fitting for their quality squad.

Mancini has had clearly the better career and shown he is the better coach. Not just for Inter, but was rather good with Lazio and Fiorentina.

I dont like Mancini exactly, and understand others who dont or mock him, but his tenure with Inter is underestimated, just as the footie he played with Lazio and Viola, the results and such, seems to have been easily forgotten. He isnt a bad coach, on the contrary. Not a top coach, not a tactical mastermind that will get you lots of titles, but prolly do pretty well in his own still.


Hughes was a big fucking joke this season, a huge one. If anything, the mistake was firing Mancini's mentor Eriksson, when he was doing well with City, with half of the quality of their current squad.

If you look at the clubs who are close to breaking into the top four in the premiership, they don't do it by sacking the manager. I don't see how you can say, less than half way through the season, that Hughes has been a failure. Finishing outside the top four this season would have been marginal grounds for a sacking, but it's not even Christmas yet...

Besides that, Mancini is easily the most over-rated manager in football today (with the possible exception of Van Gaal). He was handed Serie A on a silver platter and took it. He's not going to get that in England and he's got a track record of sucking in europe. Furthermore, City have now paid absurd sums for players who will not fit into Mancini's plans, what are they to do?

 

[Lo-Pan]

I have a far greater opinion of Hughes as a manager, than I do of Mancini, because Hughes has done more with less. He can manage, understands tactics, and has a major strength in stirring the troops into action. As a player he was a never say die tough fucker, and the same applies as a manager...the move to grab Mancini makes only some sense, though I don't think that his new employers fully understand the nature of his 'success' as coach of Inter. Either way, I will be happy to see City take 4th spot especially if it is at the expense of Rafa and Liverpool...so with that in mind, I will wish him good luck.

And I wouldn't say Mancini is the most over rated manager, because I know nobody who rates him highly...

 

[Fred]

I have a far greater opinion of Hughes as a manager, than I do of Mancini, because Hughes has done more with less. He can manage, understands tactics, and has a major strength in stirring the troops into action. As a player he was a never say die tough fucker, and the same applies as a manager...the move to grab Mancini makes only some sense, though I don't think that his new employers fully understand the nature of his 'success' as coach of Inter. Either way, I will be happy to see City take 4th spot especially if it is at the expense of Rafa and Liverpool...so with that in mind, I will wish him good luck.

And I wouldn't say Mancini is the most over rated manager, because I know nobody who rates him highly...

Done more with less?

I'm not sure if you know this. But with the squad he had last season, he could only manage 10th place. That to me is a one hell of an underachievment. Hughes deserved the sack.

 

[Lo-Pan]

Done more with less?

I'm not sure if you know this. But with the squad he had last season, he could only manage 10th place. That to me is a one hell of an underachievment. Hughes deserved the sack.

And at blackburn?

 

[Fred]

Sam Allardyce has done more with less at Bolton. So if thats what your looking for Allardyce is your man.

Sam Allardyce >>>>>>> Mark Hughes

 

[Lo-Pan]

He had more money to play with, for wages than Hughes has at Blackburn. Perhaps Allardyce is a better manager, but he has had much more time to prove that, than Hughes. He is like what Hughes will become, as the welshman seems on the same path...Whatever Sam has done at club level, he has not been given the chance to prove himself as a top club, so the comparisons can only be made between his bolton days and hughes' blackburn days...

Allardyce fucked up at newcastle as much, if not more so, than Hughes failed at City.

 

[Fred]

Allardyce was not given a full season by Newcastle. Hughes was given more than a season to prove his worth for City.

Also the budget that Sam operated with at Bolton was lower than the one Hughes had at Blackburn.

 

[Lo-Pan]

Allardyce was not given a full season by Newcastle. Hughes was given more than a season to prove his worth for City.

Also the budget that Sam operated with at Bolton was lower than the one Hughes had at Blackburn.

I find that extremely hard to believe...Hierro, Djorkaeff, Campo, Diouf, Okocha, Anelka...their wages were HUGE.

Anyway, i think my dog has just shit my lap, so I need to leave this screen for a while...

 

[Fred]

I find that extremely hard to believe...Hierro, Djorkaeff, Campo, Diouf, Okocha, Anelka...their wages were HUGE.

Anyway, i think my dog has just shit my lap, so I need to leave this screen for a while...

Hierro, Campo, Okocha and Djorkaeff were all brought in for nominal fees. Some of them were freebies actually. They were washed up players that were past it, until Big Sam revived their careers.

 

[Dostoevsky]

English papers saying Huntelaar might go to Arsenal to replace injured van Persie.

Price mentioned was 14mln pounds

 

[Osman]

If you look at the clubs who are close to breaking into the top four in the premiership, they don't do it by sacking the manager. I don't see how you can say, less than half way through the season, that Hughes has been a failure. Finishing outside the top four this season would have been marginal grounds for a sacking, but it's not even Christmas yet...

Besides that, Mancini is easily the most over-rated manager in football today (with the possible exception of Van Gaal). He was handed Serie A on a silver platter and took it. He's not going to get that in England and he's got a track record of sucking in europe. Furthermore, City have now paid absurd sums for players who will not fit into Mancini's plans, what are they to do?

I dont even like Mancini at all, and even I think you are being waaaaay to biased against him. And if this was Hughes first season as their coach, you would have a point, if you actually watched their games and see how bad he has been and how he has made such a group of quality players a huge mess, you would have a point again, but he flopped last season too, did fuck all, was even lucky being 10th. And it only got WORSE this season with the latest sitaution, and considering the investment they made, they are completely right in demanding more. And cutting their losses while they can turn things around.

The error was firing Eriksson, who didnt have a 3rd of the quality squad they have now, and not firing frigging Hughes who did little to nothing with this excellent squad.

 

[Fred]

English papers saying Huntelaar might go to Arsenal to replace injured van Persie.

Price mentioned was 14mln pounds

I heard we might go for a loan move. I'd love to have Huntelaar on loan, at least he'll play the second half of the season while RVP is out.

 

[Lo-Pan]

Hierro, Campo, Okocha and Djorkaeff were all brought in for nominal fees. Some of them were freebies actually. They were washed up players that were past it, until Big Sam revived their careers.

You seemed to totally miss my 'THEIR WAGES WERE HUGE'...which was my point. I am well aware that they all cost next to nothing, but do you think they went to bolton of all places, to be paid peanuts???? Not at all...They were paid heftily. So to suggest that big sam had far less money that Hughes at blackburn, doesn't quite hold water...Maybe i am wrong, but I doubt it in this case. Formerly world class players, DONT head to the likes of Bolton, unless they are being paid extremely well for the suffering...