[ENG] Premiership 2008/2009 (58 Viewers)
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well, in the league, we've been close, but it has been ages since we actually won it. and yes, I know ferguson's won it twice, but benitez will probably win it twice in far less time. in europe, fergie's not so good. in the league, he's tops, no doubt. and it's not a gazillion league titles, you may not know this, but england did have a league BEFORE the premier league, and liverpool won it several times. in fact, more than anyone else 
I don't know. I've tried to analyze it before and I've come to understand that I don't understand why I dislike certain clubs. Sure, I can find reasons to support it, but it doesn't explain the origins of the sentiment. Would you be able to explain why you like a player in such a way that it would rule out all other players who would also be eligible for that argument? I doubt it. It's just the way we are.
Tottenham, Liverpool, Arsenal, ManU, Chelsea. In order of annoyance. Tottenham are obviously completely harmless.
I have to say the "gloryhunter" attack is the most pathetic kind of fake elitism I've ever seen. The fact that someone who spent 20 years going to matches and going to the pub with his drinking buddies talking about football and generally hasn't accomplished a damn thing in his whole life (ie. the model supporter) can look down on someone who gets excited about the sport for other reasons about himself is just about the most pathetic thing ever. What's next, homeless people in Europe making fun of starving kids in Africa who have it even worse?
-it's ironic that the person who i keep arguing with on the forums is martin, considering you're probably one of the members I would least expect to argue with
now if it was burke, andy, etc, no surprises
now if it was burke, andy, etc, no surprises
??? fergie won has won it twice in more than 20 years. Benitez has already won it once and been to the final twice. Benitez is better tactically, and i could see him winning it again in the next 5 years.
i can't deny that that's often the case
it's not about elitism. it's because a gloryhunter, changing the team he "supports" every time a new team is in vogue is BS. someone who says they like a certain team based on how the play, that's fine and understandable. but people who go on about how much they love their teams and then switch all the time, simply stupid
but you do have to admit I'm right and you're wrong
i can't deny that that's often the case
it's not about elitism. it's because a gloryhunter, changing the team he "supports" every time a new team is in vogue is BS. someone who says they like a certain team based on how the play, that's fine and understandable. but people who go on about how much they love their teams and then switch all the time, simply stupid
but you do have to admit I'm right and you're wrong
I think the biggest problem with the CL right now is Real Madrid. They are the team that really made it fun for me back when they were good. The kings of the CL. Now they suck and it's no fun, they get beaten all the time.
It's a clash of cultures. The "true supporters" as they like to call themselves (not elitism, riiight) preach that you have to pick a club and stick with it. Can't go around changing your mind, that's not allowed. Riight. Who the feck put you in charge you conceited jackass?
Basically, their reasons for supporting a club are iron clan while some lame gloryhunter's reasons, whatever they may be, are worthless. Be like us or gtfo.
why would I do that?
It's a clash of cultures. The "true supporters" as they like to call themselves (not elitism, riiight) preach that you have to pick a club and stick with it. Can't go around changing your mind, that's not allowed. Riight. Who the feck put you in charge you conceited jackass?
Basically, their reasons for supporting a club are iron clan while some lame gloryhunter's reasons, whatever they may be, are worthless. Be like us or gtfo.
but you do have to admit I'm right and you're wrong
it is a clash of cultures, and both sides are fine to a certai extant. what bothers me though, is not people that follow football first and specific teams second. nothing wrong with that. it's the purest way to be a football fan. but if you're going to call yourself a supporter of a specific club, and have that has your badge so to speak, then switching at whim is just....kind of lame
You hit the nail on the head.
Whatever happens off the pitch has its impact on what we see on the pitch. But for me it has another story. I enjoy the play, the show. I enjoy football as a sport with all its excitements, happiness, pities and angers. These are the only things I care about. Our Scudettos were revoked but my joy after Del Piero's freekick against Inter in the last minute or Trez's header against Milan will never be revoked.
Whatever happens off the pitch has its impact on what we see on the pitch. But for me it has another story. I enjoy the play, the show. I enjoy football as a sport with all its excitements, happiness, pities and angers. These are the only things I care about. Our Scudettos were revoked but my joy after Del Piero's freekick against Inter in the last minute or Trez's header against Milan will never be revoked.
I didn't say my reasons for supporting liverpool and juve. anyway, that's not what I'm saying. i don't judge someone on WHY the support a club. rather, if you support a club, and say that you are a supporter of that club, you should continue supporting them whether they are winning trophies or not. to change teams because the new one is starting to win more is not a good enough reason. if you support the club, it should be because of the club, it should be something you like, say, a player, the supporters, etc. to support clubs purely on their money and trophy winning in a particular year is BS
So you have no idea why someone is supporting a club, and yet you say they are not allowed to change their mind, even though you don't have a clue what reasons they might have for doing it. I say again. Why are your reasons for supporting a club more valid than someone else's? Because you say so?
And the zinger:
Way to contradict yourself in the same paragraph, buddy :wink:
sorry, when I say support, i don't mean follow, ie my sentence was talking about follow a specific club without switching around. i don't consider following a club because they're rich and winning things to really be supporting the club. my fault, i wasn't clear. supporting a club is being loyal to that club. following a club is flexible.
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