[ENG] Premiership 2006/2007 (9 Viewers)
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Well, as far as I am concerned, performance is not jus about being consistently good for 90mins. Players like Henry is well, just sublime. They can do nothing for 89mins, and the next thing you know it, they conjure something out of this world to change the dynamics of the game. Arsenal on the cosh against both Liverpool and Blackburn, with midfield completely rampaged over at times, but you know what, Henry produced on both occassion, an individual goal only he can score. His influence is just unmeasurable.
Oh, I play the game myself consistently, and being better than the most, and I take pride in knowing a thing or two about the game.
Of all the 30 pages in this thread, at least 15 belongs to you two.
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It's enjoyable debate.
Last word on Clichy; he definitely isn't the finished article, to make an assumption like that would be foolish but he is more then good enough at the moment and on the plus side has alot of potential (I can say this confidently having watched him since he first joined the club; both in the reserves and for the first team, I would say that he hasn't even reached the level that he was playing at before his injuries yet).
Him getting caught upfield is nothing; it is part of what we accept from our full backs; we play wide midfielders who essentially play as inside forwards so we expect our full backs to be able to patrol the full length of the pitch and influence play in both directions. Inevitably a negative aspect of that will be them sometimes being caught upfield; but that's why Gilberto and athletic central defenders are such a must for us (it is for this reason that I believe Senderos can be a liability at times despite his good defensive brain).
Henry hasn't been sublime; that is a stretch by anyones imagination. He has been effective and not much more. In both of those games you mentioned it took a monumental display from other players on the pitch to allow henry to flounce around for 90mins; those players have as much and more to do with the result as the goalscorer.
Fans are as much a part of the club as the team; I have been going to arsenal for close to 15 years now, mostly home and now I'm older away as well. Even 'casual' fans are part of the club and it's traditions.
It drives me absolutely insane that after every arsenal match in which henry has scored that dimwit richard keys is always asking the same boring question why is henry not european player of the year, and everytime i change the channel. Seriously Henry gets a lot of praise both for his play and for Arsenal's achievemenst as well. Against Man united, well to be fair i expected him to be anonymous as he always is against top quality opposition, adebayor was the better forward but Henry scores last minute winner and of cos keys comes up with his crap
Everytime Arsenal loses and he is not playing, his legend is increased and people conveinently forget that they usually win big matches in which he is not playing
As Northbank said he has been average in all the games he has played in since his comeback but you still get the superlatives
The one thing Epl has over the most leagues especially serieA is that no matter how bad the team is , at home they always try to win or even at away matches they try to win as well, maybe not as much but they do try and do not pick a team that is set out not to lose. How else can you explain Boro wiping the floor with Bolton or watford and sheffield united, too very technically deficient teams giving their all in all games. Contrast that to Fiorentina on sunday where the manager sent out a team not to get beat and as oos as they scored an early goal, they were a complete disgrace and thoroughly deserved to get beaten. Reginna against Palermo were totally abject and were happy to draw at home with their rivals. Lazio are justa very poor side to watch with no imaginative players at all and against Milan they seemed happy to want to draw the game at home
In total contrast Reading want to beat man united and chelsea at their own patch
Everytime Arsenal loses and he is not playing, his legend is increased and people conveinently forget that they usually win big matches in which he is not playing
As Northbank said he has been average in all the games he has played in since his comeback but you still get the superlatives
The one thing Epl has over the most leagues especially serieA is that no matter how bad the team is , at home they always try to win or even at away matches they try to win as well, maybe not as much but they do try and do not pick a team that is set out not to lose. How else can you explain Boro wiping the floor with Bolton or watford and sheffield united, too very technically deficient teams giving their all in all games. Contrast that to Fiorentina on sunday where the manager sent out a team not to get beat and as oos as they scored an early goal, they were a complete disgrace and thoroughly deserved to get beaten. Reginna against Palermo were totally abject and were happy to draw at home with their rivals. Lazio are justa very poor side to watch with no imaginative players at all and against Milan they seemed happy to want to draw the game at home
In total contrast Reading want to beat man united and chelsea at their own patch
That is an interesting point that you make denco.
Increasingly teams have been setting out to 'not lose' in the premiership; you used a good example in Reading who I think have won many fans with their attitude to the game this season but many mid to lower table teams have been playing 9 at the back over the last few seasons. Year on year the number of goals per game in the EPL has been declining and it is for that very reason.
Increasingly teams have been setting out to 'not lose' in the premiership; you used a good example in Reading who I think have won many fans with their attitude to the game this season but many mid to lower table teams have been playing 9 at the back over the last few seasons. Year on year the number of goals per game in the EPL has been declining and it is for that very reason.
It's enjoyable debate.
Last word on Clichy; he definitely isn't the finished article, to make an assumption like that would be foolish but he is more then good enough at the moment and on the plus side has alot of potential (I can say this confidently having watched him since he first joined the club; both in the reserves and for the first team, I would say that he hasn't even reached the level that he was playing at before his injuries yet).
Him getting caught upfield is nothing; it is part of what we accept from our full backs; we play wide midfielders who essentially play as inside forwards so we expect our full backs to be able to patrol the full length of the pitch and influence play in both directions. Inevitably a negative aspect of that will be them sometimes being caught upfield; but that's why Gilberto and athletic central defenders are such a must for us (it is for this reason that I believe Senderos can be a liability at times despite his good defensive brain).
Henry hasn't been sublime; that is a stretch by anyones imagination. He has been effective and not much more. In both of those games you mentioned it took a monumental display from other players on the pitch to allow henry to flounce around for 90mins; those players have as much and more to do with the result as the goalscorer.
Fans are as much a part of the club as the team; I have been going to arsenal for close to 15 years now, mostly home and now I'm older away as well. Even 'casual' fans are part of the club and it's traditions.
what i don't get is why you are using US to describe arsenal in a juventus forum
