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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Ranieri was there with Chelsea and he couldn't win the league with his coaching abilities, and you talking about defense? Which defense, the one where second place Serie A team got smashed not once but twice , at 7-1 and once with a team from EPL who doesn't know how to defend.
You are basically saying that 2000-2004 EPL is the same level as today. Wich is the most ridiculous statement i've heard in 78 years.

And i'm not talking about how shitty and unbalanced every serie a team bar juventus is. We are talking about how shitty EPL is today.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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I see, so back when in the 90's when Serie A was the pinacle of all the leagues, everyone here must be dumb then.
Those that started following it because of the hype, yes. But most of those fuckers are following some other leaue now, like EPL.
 

AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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You are basically saying that 2000-2004 EPL is the same level as today. Wich is the most ridiculous statement i've heard in 78 years.

And i'm not talking about how $#@!ty and unbalanced every serie a team bar juventus is. We are talking about how $#@!ty EPL is today.
Im not comparing the league, i am saying that Ranieri has been in the league before and its not like he is a rookie and suddenly this rookie manager took the league by storm. He has learned from his experience and if you been following EPL this season it is clearly obvious that Ranieri is no longer the Tinkerman. Infact, they made a stat and Leicester came top among the teams that started with the same set of players every game.
You were just saying how great the Serie A defense and i just brushed you off with two most embarrassing defeats in CL for a for a second placed Serie A team.

Anyway, I was just saying how entertaining the league is and that is reflected on the leagues commercial value. I also want Serie A to come back to its 90's level, but for now for me EPL is the best league in terms of entertainment.

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There's always a bunch of Talibans here that can't accept someone having a different opinion.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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I find it hard to believe that is teh most ridiculous statement you have heard in the last 78 years
2000-2004 EPL was at the dawn and start of its prime in absolutely domminating european football. Ranieri took the lead when the oilmoney milionaires came in. Ranieri is an excellent coach and tactician, but its hard to make players who are so full of themselfs work hard for the team. Yet he brought chelsea their first trophee's in quite a while, and laid out an excellent foundation for Mourinho.

Today, EPL is an absolute shithole of incredibly overrated teams. Just look at manchester united's lineup. HOW SHIT IS THAT LINEUP. look at the selections of most EPL "top teams" and its so poor or unbalanced.

Then take a look at how sick the EPL rosters were in the mid to late 00's. Arsenal, Manchester, Chelsea, Liverpool, stacked as fuck and City was just emerging. Today City is the only team with a high quality roster in every line.

In the EPL of scholes, gerrard, henry, lampard etc, the top teams had miles advantage on the minnows. Today a minnow has TEN FUCKING POINTS lead.



Yes, its the most retarded statement since some politician said in the late 30's that "We dont need to act, we can manage Hitler with politics and talks".

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Im not comparing the league, i am saying that Ranieri has been in the league before and its not like he is a rookie and suddenly this rookie manager took the league by storm. He has learned from his experience and if you been following EPL this season it is clearly obvious that Ranieri is no longer the Tinkerman. Infact, they made a stat and Leicester came top among the teams that started with the same set of players every game.
You were just saying how great the Serie A defense and i just brushed you off with two most embarrassing defeats in CL for a for a second placed Serie A team.

Anyway, I was just saying how entertaining the league is and that is reflected on the leagues commercial value. I also want Serie A to come back to its 90's level, but for now for me EPL is the best league in terms of entertainment.

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There's always a bunch of Talibans here that can't accept someone having a different opinion.
I have not mentionned "the great serie a defences" because currently, there is only one. Napoli and Roma have poor defences. Tho Roma is working on it.


The EPL is only entertaining if you love watching mistakes all over the place and players scoring from those, rather then excellent counters or attacking moves.

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Based on what everyone else says, not according to your own judgement? You are a funny guy Zach :D
I've seen those teams humiliate themselves against decent opponents in europe for a while now, in full games.

And then there are the highlights i'm talking about, where actually, and this takes a bit of balls to do so, analysts love to highlight the mistakes made by the players.


Gotto love how carrager and Nevile disect how poor the technical ability and defensive anticipation is.

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I love the hard honest analyse like this one

 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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There's always a bunch of Talibans here that can't accept someone having a different opinion.
Ofc you can have an opinion and watch whatever you find entertaining. De gustibus non est disputandum. I'm not even arguing here right now whether Serie A is better than EPL and didn't even respond to your initial post that started this. :)

Just your statement that if something generates billions of Euros of income that is determinant of quality is nonsensical. People buy products for various reasons and sometimes the quality is the least important one for their decision. We're living in a world where families like Kardashians are earning millions from their reality show, uneducated folks with no apparent talent, other than flashing their boobs.
 

AOD4

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2004
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Ofc you can have an opinion and watch whatever you find entertaining. De gustibus non est disputandum. I'm not even arguing here right now whether Serie A is better than EPL and didn't even respond to your initial post that started this. :)

Just your statement that if something generates billions of Euros of income that is determinant of quality is nonsensical. People buy products for various reasons and sometimes the quality is the least important one for their decision. We're living in a world where families like Kardashians are earning millions from their reality show, uneducated folks with no apparent talent, other than flashing their boobs.
It's nice to see that i even mentioned about wining equal number of Europe biggest title and also the entertainment value, and u can only pick on the commercial value. It doesn't make sense to compare the league's commercial value (Even Agnelli wants Serie A to improve the commercial value) and the Kardashians.

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swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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Look, the EPL does some amazing marketing. They also have tons of money to pay the highest transfer fees and salaries, so the talent level is at least theoretically among the highest in the world.

That said, I don't think anyone can argue that this season is evidence that the end product can turn to shite sometimes. Really, for all the money the league is burning up, the end product is pathetically at the Serie A rate or worse this year.

Everyone is thrilled about Leicester City, and they should be. But the other side of the same coin is that the league this season is also a product of colossal mismanagement and a waste of money. For all the money going into the product, heads really should roll around the league for the crappy end product they've been churning out lately.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Good, United aren't even close to deserving a CL spot, they have improved but are in a false position after several months of points they didn't deserve.

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Perfect.

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United :touched:

So when do we submit a 5 million bid for Darmian?
Darmian (because of his background) plus De Gea, Martial and maybe Mata are the only players United have that should even be interesting to us. But they could also go to other clubs in better leagues with more money, so it's kind of a moot point I guess.

What I like now is how teams like Spurs are superseding them on a sporting level. There was a day when United would come calling and they could just take any Spurs player. They did several times. Now they just have money, huge sums of money, but with an average team why on earth would the likes of Alli, Kane or Dier swap Spurs for United now? United can offer £100m for a player if they want, but top players want to play for top clubs, not just really wealthy and famous ones.
 
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