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[JuveJay]

Matic is also integral.

 

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[Ocelot]

Oh of course, forgot about him. One of their best players, no doubt.

 

[Seven]

Singlehandedly? I mean I think it's fair to say that he's been the best player this season in the PL, mostly because there's so much more to his game than assists and goals and he's been extremely consistent, but he's not by any means carrying Chelsea to the title. Fabregas, Costa, Terry, Cahill and others had an excellent season as well.

There have been many games where Chelsea were very poor, only to be helped by a bit of magic from Hazard. Singlehandedly is a bit harsh, I admit, but as a team I think they've performed poorly at times, especially when going forward.

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Matic is also integral.

Oh of course, forgot about him. One of their best players, no doubt.

Yeah, but this guy is massively overrated by pundits who like to sound smart by pointing out how good obscure player A or B is. Even if Matic is a decent player, Fabregas and Hazard are a lot more important.

 

[JuveJay]

There have been many games where Chelsea were very poor, only to be helped by a bit of magic from Hazard. Singlehandedly is a bit harsh, I admit, but as a team I think they've performed poorly at times, especially when going forward.

True, but that is his job, and in Chelsea it's almost exclusively him at times because of how they play and Mourinho's ethic. Unless Diego Costa brutalises a defender.

 

[Seven]

True, but that is his job, and in Chelsea it's almost exclusively him at times because of how they play and Mourinho's ethic. Unless Diego Costa brutalises a defender.

Yes. But to do that job, you have to be pretty damn good. All the time. And Hazard has not only been outstanding, he has also been consistent the way we've only seen Ronaldo and Messi be consistent. He's miles ahead of Sanchez IMO.

 

[Fred]

He is singlehandedly carrying this Chelsea team to a title. That's not too shabby.

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Really? Sanchez? That's just silly. Even if he was absolutely on fire in the beginning of the season he has long periods in which he struggles and at Barcelona he was nothing special. Hazard on the other hand has been a driving force for every team he has played for and has never faded for two games in a row.

I think you're underrating sanchez a bit especially this season. But ya i dont think theres any doubt that Hazard has been better this season, and I'm an Arsenal fan.

 

[Seven]

I think you're underrating sanchez a bit especially this season. But ya i dont think theres any doubt that Hazard has been better this season, and I'm an Arsenal fan.

Not sure if I underrate him as such. When he's in form, he's incredible. But he has large spells when he's nothign special IMO.

 

[Fred]

Not sure if I underrate him as such. When he's in form, he's incredible. But he has large spells when he's nothign special IMO.

Maybe with Barcelona, but certainly not with us this season. I agree with the general gist of your post though, Hazard has definitely been the most consistent and decisive player in the league this season, he's one of the main reasons Chelsea are where they are in the league.

 

[Osman]

Hist seems to forget Hazard is a winger lol. Comparing him to strikers/pure attackers besides Sanchez, who moves in central scoring positions alot more then Hazard.

 

[Fr3sh]

Matic is also integral.

I'd love him here along with pjanic

 

[Hist]

Yes. But to do that job, you have to be pretty damn good. All the time. And Hazard has not only been outstanding, he has also been consistent the way we've only seen Ronaldo and Messi be consistent. He's miles ahead of Sanchez IMO.

Oh boy. He is not even as consistent as Tevez for God's sake.


Explain to me his disgustingly bad stats this season

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Hist seems to forget Hazard is a winger lol. Comparing him to strikers/pure attackers besides Sanchez, who moves in central scoring positions alot more then Hazard.

I have also compared him with Robben.

 

[chester]

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/33404/Show/Eden-Hazard

37 matches, 17 goals, 9 assists and 10 times MOTM.
Awfull stats.
Hazard is more then just goals and assists, he is the guy that brakes the defence, if not with the assist or the goal, then with a great action or a great pass.

Oh, and comparing Hazard to Tevez
Or with Robben, the guy plays in a league with one top team and the rest are only there to go for second spot.
Not that difficult to score 25+goals/season there

 

[Ocelot]

The only people having more MotM as him this season are Messi & Ronald (talking about league games). Robben has ten as well.

 

[Hist]

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/33404/Show/Eden-Hazard

37 matches, 17 goals, 9 assists and 10 times MOTM.
Awfull stats.
Hazard is more then just goals and assists, he is the guy that brakes the defence, if not with the assist or the goal, then with a great action or a great pass.

Oh, and comparing Hazard to Tevez
Or with Robben, the guy plays in a league with one top team and the rest are only there to go for second spot.
Not that difficult to score 25+goals/season there

Don't add his goals from other competitions to inflate them. In the league he has 12 goals (3 are penalties) and 7 assists. Thats a small output from a player being compared to Ronaldo and Messi. Sanchez, Costa, Aguero have better numbers and ofcoarse Messi and Ronaldo make his numbers in less than a couple of months and not over the whole season.

I wont compare him to Ronaldo or Messi because you'd need a check up if you think he is anywhere close to either player. But he is also very far from Robben.

He just has very low output. He is bested by players in his own league in that regard.

He does do more than just goals and assists but its very little more. He is a headless chicken compared to Robben.

 

[Ocelot]

There's more to a player than goals & assists.

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And headless chicken? He's got a great reading of the game.

 

[chester]

All Robben does is cut inside and shoot, ok, it works, but to say that Hazard is a headless chicken compared to Robben, that is just rediculous.

 

[Fred]

Don't add his goals from other competitions to inflate them. In the league he has 12 goals (3 are penalties) and 7 assists. Thats a small output from a player being compared to Ronaldo and Messi. Sanchez, Costa, Aguero have better numbers and ofcoarse Messi and Ronaldo make his numbers in less than a couple of months and not over the whole season.

I wont compare him to Ronaldo or Messi because you'd need a check up if you think he is anywhere close to either player. But he is also very far from Robben.

He just has very low output. He is bested by players in his own league in that regard.

He does do more than just goals and assists but its very little more. He is a headless chicken compared to Robben.

Nobody is comparing him or any other player in the fucking planet at the moment to the two freaks that are Ronaldo and Messi, so lets get that out of the way.

But let's get one thing straight: Are you saying he is not the best player in the premier league this season? Because I assure you, Chelsea fans are going to vote him as their player of the year, and there is an extremely high possibility, that his fellow players will vote for him to be the PFA player of the year. Then I wonder what you'll have to say for yourself.

Look, it's very simple, if you actually watched some Chelsea matches this season, you'd easily see how he's been decisive for them time and time again. A prime example, was our match against them at the Bridge at the start of the season, to an outsider who didn't watch the game, they'd only see Hazard had scored a penalty, and thought nothing of it. To someone who did watch the game, he'd tell you that the game was a stalemate, until Hazard picked the ball up in midfield, turned 3 Arsenal players inside out, and got a penalty out of nothing, game won for Chelsea.

That kind of scenario has happened so many times this season, where Hazard breaks the deadlock with a moment of magic. It is why those of us who watch the EPL are all adamant that he's been outstanding this season, and its also why he will most probably be recognized by his peers as the best in the league this season, and he most definitely will be voted as Chelsea's player of the season by the fans. I just hope when all that happens, you let go of your pride, and don't turn this into a classic escalation of commitment thing like Alen has.

 

[chester]

Benteke 3 - QPR 3

 

[Hist]

Yes. But to do that job, you have to be pretty damn good. All the time. And Hazard has not only been outstanding, he has also been consistent the way we've only seen Ronaldo and Messi be consistent. He's miles ahead of Sanchez IMO.

@Fred

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Nobody is comparing him or any other player in the $#@!ing planet at the moment to the two freaks that are Ronaldo and Messi, so lets get that out of the way.

But let's get one thing straight: Are you saying he is not the best player in the premier league this season? Because I assure you, Chelsea fans are going to vote him as their player of the year, and there is an extremely high possibility, that his fellow players will vote for him to be the PFA player of the year. Then I wonder what you'll have to say for yourself.

Look, it's very simple, if you actually watched some Chelsea matches this season, you'd easily see how he's been decisive for them time and time again. A prime example, was our match against them at the Bridge at the start of the season, to an outsider who didn't watch the game, they'd only see Hazard had scored a penalty, and thought nothing of it. To someone who did watch the game, he'd tell you that the game was a stalemate, until Hazard picked the ball up in midfield, turned 3 Arsenal players inside out, and got a penalty out of nothing, game won for Chelsea.

That kind of scenario has happened so many times this season, where Hazard breaks the deadlock with a moment of magic. It is why those of us who watch the EPL are all adamant that he's been outstanding this season, and its also why he will most probably be recognized by his peers as the best in the league this season, and he most definitely will be voted as Chelsea's player of the season by the fans. I just hope when all that happens, you let go of your pride, and don't turn this into a classic escalation of commitment thing like Alen has.

I am not saying he playing bad. He is doing very good. I am only saying he is no Arjen Robben and is barely doing better than Sanchez and others all of which aren't as good as Robben.

He is not standing out though he might be doing better than others. Standing out is too strong of a term for my taste to describe the distance between him and sanchez. Suarez's form last season... THATs standing out. Hazard this season is nothing close to Suarez from last season.

 

[jukazem]

hoping that QPR will stay up for the sake of that Isla sale.