Even Fergusson would have struggled with the current team.
Under Ferguson those mediocre players actually played well, especially the former two.
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Ferguson won the EPL with this team.
Under Ferguson those mediocre players actually played well, especially the former two.
Under Ferguson those mediocre players actually played well, especially the former two.
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Why are you so bitter against Moyes?
Didn't the guy build the foundations of this current Everton team? Did he not contribute greatly to the scouting system and youth development at Everton. I've only read and heard great things about his time at Everton. I'm really surprised at your attitude towards him.
Didn't the guy build the foundations of this current Everton team? Did he not contribute greatly to the scouting system and youth development at Everton. I've only read and heard great things about his time at Everton. I'm really surprised at your attitude towards him.
so now that Mata seems about ready to sign with United, how do you think they would line up, once they have their full team available?
I've been trying to think of formations that would get the best out of all players, and the best I've come up with so far is:
--------------De Gea--------------------
Rafael-----Jones-----Vidic--------Evra----
----------------Carrick----------------
----------Fellaini--------Fletcher-------
----------------Mata-----------------
--------Rooney---------RVP----------
Your thoughts?
I've been trying to think of formations that would get the best out of all players, and the best I've come up with so far is:
--------------De Gea--------------------
Rafael-----Jones-----Vidic--------Evra----
----------------Carrick----------------
----------Fellaini--------Fletcher-------
----------------Mata-----------------
--------Rooney---------RVP----------
Your thoughts?
I wanted Moyes gone from Everton over 2 years ago, because of all what you are seeing now.
The things he said when he left, ruined the relationship he had. He showed us no respect.
The receiption he got on his last Everton home game, should tell you respect we had for him, weather you wanted him gone of not.
That is a very good formation, but I strongly doubt they'd use that. First of all English football worship wingers; I can't think of any team other than Chelsea to play a diamond midfield in recent history, and even they didn't use it for that long. Secondly, United especially have been a team reliant on wingers for a while now, they have about 4-5 of them at their squad, what will they do with them if they decide to use a diamond midfield?
Mata's move to Manchester United is unfair, claims Wenger
Jan 23, 2014 11:44:00 AM
The Gunners boss is annoyed that the Spaniard will not be able to play against the Blues this season, but will be free to play against their other title rivals for the Red Devils
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger believes Juan Mata's proposed move from Chelsea to Manchester United is unfair and feels the rules of the transfer window should be adapted.
The Frenchman is annoyed that the two clubs involved in the transfer do not have to play each other again this season, but that United will still meet the Blues' title challengers - Liverpool, Manchester City and the Gunners - with Mata in their ranks.
United have prepared a temporary helipad at Carrington as the Spaniard flies in to complete a £37 million club record transfer on Thursday, but Wenger believes the timing is wrong.
"It opens again a little bit the opportunity of this transfer market because Chelsea had already played twice against Man United so they don't play again," he told reporters.
"They could have sold him last week but it opens at least the opportunity [to question] the dates of this transfer window.
"Some teams have already played twice against one opponent and some others not. I think if you want to respect the fairness for everybody exactly the same, that should not happen.
"I just think you would want that everybody is on the same level. Chelsea do not make the rules but maybe the rules should be a bit more adapted to more fairness."
Wenger, who sold Robin van Persie to Manchester United in 2012, is puzzled by the Mata move.
"I am surprised because Juan Mata is a great player and Chelsea sell a great player to a direct opponent," he continued.
Wenger also backed David Moyes to ride out United's rough patch, after the club were knocked out of the Capital One Cup semi-finals by Sunderland on Thursday.
"You have to survive massive disappointments and keep your belief high in what you do because to win is easy for everybody," he added.
"How to live with defeat, that is what managers are about, and David Moyes is strong enough. For me he deals with the situation very well.
"They go through a difficult moment in their season but they can still come back. They are in a strong position in the Champions League and they just bought a great player, so Man United has still to be considered a threat."
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Jan 23, 2014 11:44:00 AM
The Gunners boss is annoyed that the Spaniard will not be able to play against the Blues this season, but will be free to play against their other title rivals for the Red Devils
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger believes Juan Mata's proposed move from Chelsea to Manchester United is unfair and feels the rules of the transfer window should be adapted.
The Frenchman is annoyed that the two clubs involved in the transfer do not have to play each other again this season, but that United will still meet the Blues' title challengers - Liverpool, Manchester City and the Gunners - with Mata in their ranks.
United have prepared a temporary helipad at Carrington as the Spaniard flies in to complete a £37 million club record transfer on Thursday, but Wenger believes the timing is wrong.
"It opens again a little bit the opportunity of this transfer market because Chelsea had already played twice against Man United so they don't play again," he told reporters.
"They could have sold him last week but it opens at least the opportunity [to question] the dates of this transfer window.
"Some teams have already played twice against one opponent and some others not. I think if you want to respect the fairness for everybody exactly the same, that should not happen.
"I just think you would want that everybody is on the same level. Chelsea do not make the rules but maybe the rules should be a bit more adapted to more fairness."
Wenger, who sold Robin van Persie to Manchester United in 2012, is puzzled by the Mata move.
"I am surprised because Juan Mata is a great player and Chelsea sell a great player to a direct opponent," he continued.
Wenger also backed David Moyes to ride out United's rough patch, after the club were knocked out of the Capital One Cup semi-finals by Sunderland on Thursday.
"You have to survive massive disappointments and keep your belief high in what you do because to win is easy for everybody," he added.
"How to live with defeat, that is what managers are about, and David Moyes is strong enough. For me he deals with the situation very well.
"They go through a difficult moment in their season but they can still come back. They are in a strong position in the Champions League and they just bought a great player, so Man United has still to be considered a threat."
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So change system for one player, and play 4-3-1-2, when their weakness is lack of good CMs? And play a formation that doesnt play a single winger, when you have Antonio Valencia, Adnan Januzaj, Ashley Young, Nani (not that he would stay long) and Wilfried Zaha there. Not to mention Kagawa who isnt a winger but who can play there, besides being direct back up for Mata. Thats whole lot of players with expensive contracts, or need playing time to keep flourishing (Januzaj), that would get benched and possibly sold (which would be harder if they play half a season without wingers, and they all see little time, value drops).
IMO its more likely they will play 4-2-3-1 or basically 4-4-1-1 (its the same really), either RVP keeps struggling with injury and Rooney and Mata is upfront, or Rooney who's contract runs out 2015 summer, will be sold (doubt he will re-sign, if he will, has to be soon) and Mata directly takes his spot.
IMO its more likely they will play 4-2-3-1 or basically 4-4-1-1 (its the same really), either RVP keeps struggling with injury and Rooney and Mata is upfront, or Rooney who's contract runs out 2015 summer, will be sold (doubt he will re-sign, if he will, has to be soon) and Mata directly takes his spot.