Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (57 Viewers)
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's criminal agencyI already explain it in a long post yesterday in the Pjaca thread. But I can explain it short here to. ( or try 😀
When you buy a player like we did with Morata in 2014 for 20 million euros. When we sell him in 2016 we had only written of 6 million of his value. Juventus officially went out with the numbers, we made a 16 million euro profit. If we sell Hernanes for less the. 7,80 million euros we make a loss. Pereyra 11.30 million euros minimum.
The more important question is how much does the player cost us per season? Salary + transfer fee / years of the contract.
Lets say we buy Pjaca, 25 million euros with a 5 year contract. The 25 million euros is divided with 5 ( years of the contract) = 5 million euros. Lets say he gets 2,2 million euros per season after tax, same as Dybala got. Thats 4,4 million euro before tax + 5 million euros. He cost our budget 5+ 4,4 million euros per season, 9,4 million euros.
Hernanes cost us 9,90 million euros. Why? He has a shorter contract so the cost is spread over fewer years. So if we sell him for atleast 7,80 million euros. We have got Pjaca for the same cost in the budget.
How does the it works? Pjaca for 25 million euros example. After a year we have written of 5 million. So in the second year IF we sell him, to make a positive effect we most sell for atleast 20 million euros. In year 3, 15 million euros atleast, and it goes on like that.
Thats how it works. Look in the Pjaca thread, i gave more examples there.
When you buy a player like we did with Morata in 2014 for 20 million euros. When we sell him in 2016 we had only written of 6 million of his value. Juventus officially went out with the numbers, we made a 16 million euro profit. If we sell Hernanes for less the. 7,80 million euros we make a loss. Pereyra 11.30 million euros minimum.
The more important question is how much does the player cost us per season? Salary + transfer fee / years of the contract.
Lets say we buy Pjaca, 25 million euros with a 5 year contract. The 25 million euros is divided with 5 ( years of the contract) = 5 million euros. Lets say he gets 2,2 million euros per season after tax, same as Dybala got. Thats 4,4 million euro before tax + 5 million euros. He cost our budget 5+ 4,4 million euros per season, 9,4 million euros.
Hernanes cost us 9,90 million euros. Why? He has a shorter contract so the cost is spread over fewer years. So if we sell him for atleast 7,80 million euros. We have got Pjaca for the same cost in the budget.
How does the it works? Pjaca for 25 million euros example. After a year we have written of 5 million. So in the second year IF we sell him, to make a positive effect we most sell for atleast 20 million euros. In year 3, 15 million euros atleast, and it goes on like that.
Thats how it works. Look in the Pjaca thread, i gave more examples there.
I already explain it in a long post yesterday in the Pjaca thread. But I can explain it short here to. ( or try ��
When you buy a player like we did with Morata in 2014 for 20 million euros. When we sell him in 2016 we had only written of 6 million of his value. Juventus officially went out with the numbers, we made a 16 million euro profit. If we sell Hernanes for less the. 7,80 million euros we make a loss. Pereyra 11.30 million euros minimum.
The more important question is how much does the player cost us per season? Salary + transfer fee / years of the contract.
Lets say we buy Pjaca, 25 million euros with a 5 year contract. The 25 million euros is divided with 5 ( years of the contract) = 5 million euros. Lets say he gets 2,2 million euros per season after tax, same as Dybala got. Thats 4,4 million euro before tax + 5 million euros. He cost our budget 5+ 4,4 million euros per season, 9,4 million euros.
Hernanes cost us 9,90 million euros. Why? He has a shorter contract so the cost is spread over fewer years. So if we sell him for atleast 7,80 million euros. We have got Pjaca for the same cost in the budget.
How does the it works? Pjaca for 25 million euros example. After a year we have written of 5 million. So in the second year IF we sell him, to make a positive effect we most sell for atleast 20 million euros. In year 3, 15 million euros atleast, and it goes on like that.
Thats how it works. Look in the Pjaca thread, i gave more examples there.
When you buy a player like we did with Morata in 2014 for 20 million euros. When we sell him in 2016 we had only written of 6 million of his value. Juventus officially went out with the numbers, we made a 16 million euro profit. If we sell Hernanes for less the. 7,80 million euros we make a loss. Pereyra 11.30 million euros minimum.
The more important question is how much does the player cost us per season? Salary + transfer fee / years of the contract.
Lets say we buy Pjaca, 25 million euros with a 5 year contract. The 25 million euros is divided with 5 ( years of the contract) = 5 million euros. Lets say he gets 2,2 million euros per season after tax, same as Dybala got. Thats 4,4 million euro before tax + 5 million euros. He cost our budget 5+ 4,4 million euros per season, 9,4 million euros.
Hernanes cost us 9,90 million euros. Why? He has a shorter contract so the cost is spread over fewer years. So if we sell him for atleast 7,80 million euros. We have got Pjaca for the same cost in the budget.
How does the it works? Pjaca for 25 million euros example. After a year we have written of 5 million. So in the second year IF we sell him, to make a positive effect we most sell for atleast 20 million euros. In year 3, 15 million euros atleast, and it goes on like that.
Thats how it works. Look in the Pjaca thread, i gave more examples there.
I agree, Cavani would be extremely expensive due to his high transfer fee, limited contract period and high salary. I read rumors on Icardi - that could be doable given we could write a 5 year contract and offer a salary which would be under the current wage cap.
With the exception of Hernanes, Marotta, for the most part has only bought old players who are basically on a bosman (with the exception of Tevez but that was a fairly low transfer fee anyways).
Benedetto Minerva has writen some articles for Di Marzio website. He look at the economy perspective in transfers. According to him our buys Pjanic and Dani Alves cost us 25 million euros per season together. The players left cost us 24 million euros per season. Its not about transfer fees. Its about how much the players cost the club per season. We have a budget to stick to. Ofcourse you can make a profit in deals. We did it with Morata ( 16 million euros)
I already explain it in a long post yesterday in the Pjaca thread. But I can explain it short here to. ( or try 😀
When you buy a player like we did with Morata in 2014 for 20 million euros. When we sell him in 2016 we had only written of 6 million of his value. Juventus officially went out with the numbers, we made a 16 million euro profit. If we sell Hernanes for less the. 7,80 million euros we make a loss. Pereyra 11.30 million euros minimum.
The more important question is how much does the player cost us per season? Salary + transfer fee / years of the contract.
Lets say we buy Pjaca, 25 million euros with a 5 year contract. The 25 million euros is divided with 5 ( years of the contract) = 5 million euros. Lets say he gets 2,2 million euros per season after tax, same as Dybala got. Thats 4,4 million euro before tax + 5 million euros. He cost our budget 5+ 4,4 million euros per season, 9,4 million euros.
Hernanes cost us 9,90 million euros. Why? He has a shorter contract so the cost is spread over fewer years. So if we sell him for atleast 7,80 million euros. We have got Pjaca for the same cost in the budget.
How does the it works? Pjaca for 25 million euros example. After a year we have written of 5 million. So in the second year IF we sell him, to make a positive effect we most sell for atleast 20 million euros. In year 3, 15 million euros atleast, and it goes on like that.
Thats how it works. Look in the Pjaca thread, i gave more examples there.
When you buy a player like we did with Morata in 2014 for 20 million euros. When we sell him in 2016 we had only written of 6 million of his value. Juventus officially went out with the numbers, we made a 16 million euro profit. If we sell Hernanes for less the. 7,80 million euros we make a loss. Pereyra 11.30 million euros minimum.
The more important question is how much does the player cost us per season? Salary + transfer fee / years of the contract.
Lets say we buy Pjaca, 25 million euros with a 5 year contract. The 25 million euros is divided with 5 ( years of the contract) = 5 million euros. Lets say he gets 2,2 million euros per season after tax, same as Dybala got. Thats 4,4 million euro before tax + 5 million euros. He cost our budget 5+ 4,4 million euros per season, 9,4 million euros.
Hernanes cost us 9,90 million euros. Why? He has a shorter contract so the cost is spread over fewer years. So if we sell him for atleast 7,80 million euros. We have got Pjaca for the same cost in the budget.
How does the it works? Pjaca for 25 million euros example. After a year we have written of 5 million. So in the second year IF we sell him, to make a positive effect we most sell for atleast 20 million euros. In year 3, 15 million euros atleast, and it goes on like that.
Thats how it works. Look in the Pjaca thread, i gave more examples there.
I dont care how much Icardi costs I dont want his overrated ass in here!
He is like a more consistent Matri IMO (Yeah I know he is much better than Matri but honestly I dont regard him as a great player!) - rather we sign many others rather than Icardi! (Although the Anti Maradona thing is tempting)
He is like a more consistent Matri IMO (Yeah I know he is much better than Matri but honestly I dont regard him as a great player!) - rather we sign many others rather than Icardi! (Although the Anti Maradona thing is tempting)
To do all the sums properly you need to know the wages for every player (which I don't think is all available) as well as the "bonuses" and the criteria of which is not clearly stipulated to the public.
FFP works on accounting profit and loss over a 3 year period. If we sold Pogba for 120m, we would book a 1 off profit of 120m + save 9m per year on his pre-tax salary. In theory that would underwrite 3 30-40m transfers for 5 year contracts at wages of 3-4m post tax.
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Yep that makes sense. 32m amortized over 5 years = 6.5m + after tax wages of ~4.5m = ~9m pre-tax = 15.5m + bonuses or part of that bonus of the buy-out he gave away would probably get you to around 17m pre-tax.
FFP works on accounting profit and loss over a 3 year period. If we sold Pogba for 120m, we would book a 1 off profit of 120m + save 9m per year on his pre-tax salary. In theory that would underwrite 3 30-40m transfers for 5 year contracts at wages of 3-4m post tax.
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Yep that makes sense. 32m amortized over 5 years = 6.5m + after tax wages of ~4.5m = ~9m pre-tax = 15.5m + bonuses or part of that bonus of the buy-out he gave away would probably get you to around 17m pre-tax.
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