Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (15 Viewers)

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Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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Tuttosport?

Really?


Do I have to go all Zach on you and call you a..........................



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You know, I have no idea what ethnicity you are
I usually post all 3 but the other 2 don't really have any Juve related news so I only posted this.


Disobedient Caucasian Italian/German
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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so according to tutosport, Pjanic will be done dealio soon!.

We should go all naive and believe that crap?.... i wanna ride the summer rollercoaster!
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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Regista, CM and AM.

WC in all of them.
You mean average in all of them with the occasional very good game here and there. WC promise maybe but certainly not close to WC so far in his career.

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Pjanic is totally going to be this years Draxler can't wait.

Question is who will be the Hernanes we eventually settle for.
Hernanes
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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La Juve vuole fare l'accoppiata Pjanic+Kovacic (via Gianluca Di Marzio) per il centrocampo ‪#‎SkyCalciomercato‬

Juve wants Pjanic and Kovacic
I personally think that combination of mids is the least balanced off all the ones we have been linked to this summer. Both strong talents, but i feel they both are eclectic enough to do without the other. One of them with Mascherano or Gomes would be a better complement.

Kanté was again amazing against Scotland (I know, not a benchmark but still), I still hope we somehow renew our interest in him and make a deal before PSG does.
PSG would be one up on that deal given he will probably wanna be closer to home.


Sounds like the type of player we don't need.
Who, Kante?

so according to tutosport, Pjanic will be done dealio soon!.

We should go all naive and believe that crap?.... i wanna ride the summer rollercoaster!

:D
 

Akshen

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Aug 27, 2010
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So Di Marzio says we are confident that we can get Pjanic and we will also try for Mascherano? Whats the use for Kovacic then? He is similiar player to Pjanic, but of course not as good.
Mercato of Alves, Pjanic, Berardi is great for me, with the right sells it could also be funded only by the money from the players out.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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So Di Marzio says we are confident that we can get Pjanic and we will also try for Mascherano? Whats the use for Kovacic then? He is similiar player to Pjanic, but of course not as good.
Mercato of Alves, Pjanic, Berardi is great for me, with the right sells it could also be funded only by the money from the players out.
You can add Benatia to that list coz i think we will go for him if we don't get Mascherano. And while Berardi maybe a replacement for Alvaro, we may also get a striker to replace Zaza if he leaves, as well as an RB maybe if we sell Licht.
 

s4tch

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tuttosport (ftw @j0ker):
- leicester want lemina if kanté is sold, we'll let him go for 20m
- pereyra and asamoah are surely gone
 

Roman

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Apr 19, 2003
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According to the rumors on Pjanic Beppe is waiting for Roma because they have to get atleast 30M from sales until the end of the month(FFP).
So he's trying to low down the price and not pay the clause.Rumors from calciomercato say 30-32M + bonuses.

He probably knows something,that maybe there are no other clubs willing to pay the clause...
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Lukaku is a player with specific abilities, but he is very low intelligence, and i cant stand that in players when it comes to juventus, or when people overrate them, cause they take a certain situation to work. You'll recall me hating ALOT on Ogbonna, but now saying "he's well suited to EPL". Thats not nececcerely bashing EPL, its kinda what i actually mean.


I'm with you on the structure thing, especially cause that reason. Allow me to list our big issues and how to fix them :


Defence has great individuals but cannot organise itself and cannot play as a unit at all. Whether Kompany plays or not.
ALl players including him, are very good individually and in duels. But they cannot controll space. Kompany is fantastic at stepping out and anticipating attackers in duels, but not in organising the defence and controlling the space.
In fact, no one in the belgian team can these days, and no one at City does aswel.

Recall when 14 years ago we had Staelens and De Boeck as central defence versus 2002 brazil ? When they had a very hard game and should be down at halftime but Wilmots goal (yes, the current coach people) got ruled out incorrectly ?
They were exceptionally good at organising and positionning.

Do we need this ? No, not nececcarely. You need a coach who has a clear tactical plan, and drills players to execute it.


We play like shit with the ball but we dont have a playmaking cm
Quite true. But we have talent elsewere.

Belgium needs a well fleshed out gameplan and runlines . Off the ball instructions. Specific positionning and passing instructions for the advanced CM/CAM/SS. Its the coach's duty.


Hazard doesnt play well

Result of the above. Hazard shouldnt be deep in the play doing passes. He should be keeping it wide and look to move in spaces. Its the fullback, close cm, am/ss/st duty to find him there.
You fix this by having a well fleshed out gameplan. Its on the coach

Lukaku is a mental joke, but strong, fast, relatively agile, decent technique, hard shot, strong header, strong in duels, but he's retarded

Yeah. Dont expect him to make combinations. If we have a well fleshed out gameplan, and the wide players (hazard/carrasco/mertens/de bruyne(id play him cam)) are beeing dangerous and there is alot of movement, this changes entirely.

The goal of the entire team, is to play Lukaku into space, have wingers make actions and play it trough in the box or cross early/byline, have the cam send him into space. Lukaku should be on the back of the defence stretching the play (think morata vs bayern), and heading off long balls, but mostly seeking to burst into space where he is difficult to take down.



See, belgium has all it needs to do well. We need a tactical drill and setup for the defence cause it lacks an organiser. It needs a gameplan to make the midfield work. It needs instructions to create space for the wingers. And if these two works, you can start using the good things about Lukaku.






See, i've summarised everything into 1 issue which we cannot avoid : GET A GODDAMN COACH
Piet De Visser thinks we have a great coach.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Piet De Visser thinks we have a great coach.
You just agreed that Lukaku also needs yhis structure.
So you agree there isnt any.

Now you say someone said we do have a good coach.


What will it be. Good coach and worthless lukaku, or bad coach and misused lukaku with poor service
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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You just agreed that Lukaku also needs yhis structure.
So you agree there isnt any.

Now you say someone said we do have a good coach.


What will it be. Good coach and worthless lukaku, or bad coach and misused lukaku with poor service

He's not just someone.

Lukaku, like a lot of our players, is strongest when running into space. We have a team that would perform best when it is able to sit deep and counter. Somehow Wilmots has chosen to go a completely different direction. I don't care about that, as long as we win.

But my original point was that Lukaku obviously has flaws. His first touch is horrendous. But he also has very obvious qualities. Would I buy him if I were managing Juventus? No, I probably wouldn't. But you make it seem as if he's not a world class player, while his statistics clearly show he is.
 

Nostradamus

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Dec 12, 2012
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Piet De Visser thinks we have a great coach.
When there were rumours about Wilmots on the move to Schalke, I was just facepalming hard :sergio:

I cannot see anything innovative and I dont see pressing implemented and tbo I cannot even see a gameplan or a clear structure. He looks like a mediocre old school coach and I dont expect him to have a very successful future as club coach.

How du u guys rate Vanhaezebrouck? Seems a special coach
 
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