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Mark

The Informer
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Dec 19, 2003
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@Mark what you players would Lazio be interested in?
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-Will Isco be the first gift for the Bianconeri Coach?
The trequartista’s father admits: ‘Juventus are in the running’

-Meanwhile, Marotta closes on De Sciglio

just bs @Mark?

would be a good LB/RB rotation option imo.
De Sciglio had a good run over there for a certain period but I can't say which one we'd get. That player or the one who can't play for meelan. Wouldn't be the 1st time a player who is not doing well there becomes great somewhere else. It's a rumours that come up often and could be true. Same with the Vrsaljko/Widmer...ones.
 

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Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Its insane Zach wants Felipe Anderson so badly when he embodies every single drawback he mentions and exaggerates nonsensically about Isco :lol: Text book more flair and fancy then end product (hence defenitely would take Berardi over him).


I wanted us to take the gamble on Felipe Anderson and advocated for him a bit, but even at his best previously he was highly inconsistent, showed top potential but affinity to shirk for responsibility and pressure. Nowfollowing season he basically dissapeared, if things arent going well he seems to be one of the first to give up/not be able to imprint his game to things. Main issue is decision making/end product considering the guy has physique and dribbling that resembles a young Cristiano Ronaldo. But so far defenitely flatters to deceive and been kinda found out too quickly.
Ignorant Osman post. Been a while.

Isco and Anderson are completely different types.

Isco wants the ball all the time, doesnt work offensively or defensively. When he has the ball hell try something fancy inefficient, or nothing. He is a vital connection point between midfield and defence, but goes missing in the big game while others are limited by him


Anderson works hard off the ball offensively. Lightning pace with good stamina. He doesnt demand the ball nearly as much but seeks space to receice it, so he's much less limiting dybala and pogba. In big games, he doesnt need to carry, he's the guy that keepa making runs and unsettlw defences.



Ive explained this. You need a balance of players who ask and keep/come into the ball to distribute it, and players who will move around and try to find space to run into.

Dybala and Pogba have been players on the ball. Adding Isco would limit this. Adding a off the ball mover would complement it.



But Osman. Im basing off last season's anderson, and the development of dybala.

So fill in the blanks if he changed this season.


But anderson should nevet carry
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,620
:wine: we agree on something

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I have a suspicion, that you are a filthy peasant and makes shit up because thats all you got left.


I dislike Lukaku because he's a retarded dumbfuck.

Unless you are blind, and you would be fucking blind if it was up to me, you should have read at least 5 times by now that i like Batshuayi and wouldnt mind him comming here.

But oh noes, He's at least as black as Lukaku, is your mind blown yet ?



Lukaku is a retard. I dislike retards. Thats it. Now fuck off.
:lol: yeah he is not morrocon
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Its insane Zach wants Felipe Anderson so badly when he embodies every single drawback he mentions and exaggerates nonsensically about Isco :lol: Text book more flair and fancy then end product (hence defenitely would take Berardi over him).


I wanted us to take the gamble on Felipe Anderson and advocated for him a bit, but even at his best previously he was highly inconsistent, showed top potential but affinity to shirk from responsibility and pressure (different levels in talents, but also the mentality of wanting to be the go-to-guy is key, Pogba and Dybala have it for example, this one doesnt). Now in following season he basically dissapeared, if things arent going well he seems to be one of the first to give up/not be able to imprint his game or adapt. Main issue is poor decision making/end product considering the guy has dynamic physique and dribbling that resembles a young Cristiano Ronaldo. But so far defenitely flatters to deceive and been kinda found out too quickly.
"Oh what a tangled web we weave. When first we practice to deceive."
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,502
Do you even what the heck you are talking about? Honestly, your psuedo way to talk about how they would effect Pogba and Dybala is LAUGHABLE.


Isco is a creator on high technical level, the kind we or more like Allegri need (because I honestly prefer signing a wing forward over an AM, less predictable that way), yeah he holds on to the ball too long at times (he tries to play like a natural nr 10 way that doesnt exist in most of footie anymore sadly, except few teams like ours that litterally want a trequartista to carry the torch) but most of the time has satellite view understanding of his surroundings, enough to use his passing/dribbling through channels with purpose. Was the same in Malaga and whenever he dominated in youth Spain. A player who open things up and is unpredictable. Even as a marginalized 3rd fiddle role as in Real he creates and assists enough for the attackers quite a bit despite sporadic playing time and clear issues with consistency.

Felipe Anderson besides being NOWHERE near his talent is basically a speed merchant with good dribbling. He knows what to do when there's room ahead of him, blitz and win ground, but his decision making and ability to connect with others with ease is very much lacking most of this season and even at his best in last. Can become a very good winger, but the kind that doesnt have much football IQ and will commit the same type of moves all game long. Which is easier to understand why things go so badly for him this season, him and most of Lazio are off form (except Biglia, Candreva, on occasion Mauri etc), and his way of dealing with is battering his way into the defence with same runs and sulking when he doesnt learn from it. If opponents adapt to you (sophmore season in Serie A are toughest for players), or you have less space in counters, you try to re-discover yourself to become of some use. But instead become too much of a ghost compared to last season. Only Lazio player thats been more annoying to watch when I seen them is that serbian hack Sasa-Milinkovic, who sucks so damn much.
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,714
Serie-A stats:

Anderson:

2013/2014: 13 games: 0g 2a
2014/2015: 10g 8a
2015/2016: 7g 3a

shots per game: 1,6
key Passes per game: 0,8
passes per game: 27,9
crosses per game: 0,7
pass success: 72,4%
dribblings per game: 2
fouled per game: 1,6


Berardi:

2012/2013: 11g 6a
2013/2014: 16g 6a
2014/2015: 15g 11a
2015/2016: 6g 4a

shots per game: 3
key passes per game: 1,3
passes per game: 31,5
crosses per game: 0,8
pass success: 70,1%
dribblings per game: 1,2
fouled per game: 2,4
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,502
When he has the ball hell try something fancy inefficient, or nothing.
Or this, you dont even realize, regardless of his flaws/consistency hiccups, this kid is a genuine playmaker? :D




We wont sign him at all, but is litterally the embodiment of the type of creative and unpredictable spark we need, that we kinda lost with Pirlo.

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Serie-A stats:

Anderson:

2013/2014: 13 games: 0g 2a
2014/2015: 10g 8a
2015/2016: 7g 3a

shots per game: 1,6
key Passes per game: 0,8
passes per game: 27,9
crosses per game: 0,7
pass success: 72,4%
dribblings per game: 2
fouled per game: 1,6


Berardi:

2012/2013: 11g 6a
2013/2014: 16g 6a
2014/2015: 15g 11a
2015/2016: 6g 4a

shots per game: 3
key passes per game: 1,3
passes per game: 31,5
crosses per game: 0,8
pass success: 70,1%
dribblings per game: 1,2
fouled per game: 2,4
Dont even bother, Berardi over this guy for sure. Felipe Anderson is capable of blitz dribbling 4-5 players in a way Berardi never can. Buts it, where it stops when it comes comparing them. One of them clearly shows the killer instinct and decision making thats most vital for players like these. We would be foolish to not give a shot, or if we are gonna dismiss him, do it because of better players, not Felipe Andersons who havent shown they are at Berardi's lethal level on the wing.
 

JuveID

Allegri and Beppe Mania
Feb 5, 2015
1,113
No but seriously. Those 3 have so much pace, technique and workrate.

Well, offensively, we need to $#@! up Andersons face a bit about that poor defensive workrate.


You'd have 3 compatible players. Morata plays on the shoulder of the defence, with Dybala making the play/beeing the connection point, or comes deep to help(morata), where as anderson's off the ball movement would give pogba a field day sending them trough the defence.

SO much burst speed
You really think anderson has workrate? In terms of workrate, he is another eljero elia.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,120
I have a suspicion, that you are a filthy peasant and makes shit up because thats all you got left.


I dislike Lukaku because he's a retarded dumbfuck.

Unless you are blind, and you would be fucking blind if it was up to me, you should have read at least 5 times by now that i like Batshuayi and wouldnt mind him comming here.

But oh noes, He's at least as black as Lukaku, is your mind blown yet ?



Lukaku is a retard. I dislike retards. Thats it. Now fuck off.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh Zach. You're amazing.
 

JuveID

Allegri and Beppe Mania
Feb 5, 2015
1,113
Serie-A stats:

Anderson:

2013/2014: 13 games: 0g 2a
2014/2015: 10g 8a
2015/2016: 7g 3a

shots per game: 1,6
key Passes per game: 0,8
passes per game: 27,9
crosses per game: 0,7
pass success: 72,4%
dribblings per game: 2
fouled per game: 1,6


Berardi:

2012/2013: 11g 6a
2013/2014: 16g 6a
2014/2015: 15g 11a
2015/2016: 6g 4a

shots per game: 3
key passes per game: 1,3
passes per game: 31,5
crosses per game: 0,8
pass success: 70,1%
dribblings per game: 1,2
fouled per game: 2,4
When i see this stats, i do not feel RW is berardi best position.
Normally, winger has high stat on dribble.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,502
Berardi is a very direct player who moves around well and has the ball in short burts. Dribbling is not one of his strengths at all, but what is his ability to find the space to do damage and the ability to finish it off, wether its assist or scoring himself. He is basically an inside forward who with his smart movement is good enough to be a interesting striker when he is older probably.


Kinda like a young Van Persie without the sick street baller technique.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,620
Or this, you dont even realize, regardless of his flaws/consistency hiccups, this kid is a genuine playmaker? :D




We wont sign him at all, but is litterally the embodiment of the type of creative and unpredictable spark we need, that we kinda lost with Pirlo.

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Dont even bother, Berardi over this guy for sure. Felipe Anderson is capable of blitz dribbling 4-5 players in a way Berardi never can. Buts it, where it stops when it comes comparing them. One of them clearly shows the killer instinct and decision making thats most vital for players like these. We would be foolish to not give a shot, or if we are gonna dismiss him, do it because of better players, not Felipe Andersons who havent shown they are at Berardi's lethal level on the wing.
this
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Serie-A stats:

Anderson:

2013/2014: 13 games: 0g 2a
2014/2015: 10g 8a
2015/2016: 7g 3a

shots per game: 1,6
key Passes per game: 0,8
passes per game: 27,9
crosses per game: 0,7
pass success: 72,4%
dribblings per game: 2
fouled per game: 1,6


Berardi:

2012/2013: 11g 6a
2013/2014: 16g 6a
2014/2015: 15g 11a
2015/2016: 6g 4a

shots per game: 3
key passes per game: 1,3
passes per game: 31,5
crosses per game: 0,8
pass success: 70,1%
dribblings per game: 1,2
fouled per game: 2,4
:delpiero:
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
but would it interfere with Berardi is what I wanna know
in terms of space it surely would but I think we should be getting both tbh. Anderson and Berardi enable us to play 433/4321 in a proper way. When it comes to attacking options our bench is very short and that's how Bayern got the upper hand against us. Pereyra is the only player on the bench that's an AM/winger and lately you can't count on him.

Felipe Anderson is not a classic AM but he doesn't have to be just like Pereyra isn't. Since Pogba and Dybala like to play a lot in the middle we need an AM that's capable of moving to wings, to stretch the game.

For 25m each we gain a lot of tactical flexibility and we'll have more players capable of changing the game. Berardi and Anderson are different but I think that's exactly what we want. Berardi is the bigger player for me but Andreson would work in our team very well IMO, surrounded by better players would make life for him easier.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
If Morata does leave, I'd absolutely love seeing us sign both Felipe Anderson and Berardi.

We'd have 3 young and incredible talents. Dybala has played most of his career as an outright striker, and could easily play no 9 in a 4-3-3. Easily possesses the goalscoring threat for it. Imagine a front-3 of:

Berardi-Dybala-Anderson

And that can easily be changed into a 4-3-1-2 by playing Mandzu beside Dybala and either Berardi or Anderson as CAM.
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Deep C

Senior Member
Apr 8, 2012
2,096
I have a suspicion, that you are a filthy peasant and makes shit up because thats all you got left.


I dislike Lukaku because he's a retarded dumbfuck.

Unless you are blind, and you would be fucking blind if it was up to me, you should have read at least 5 times by now that i like Batshuayi and wouldnt mind him comming here.

But oh noes, He's at least as black as Lukaku, is your mind blown yet ?



Lukaku is a retard. I dislike retards. Thats it. Now fuck off.
What makes him a retard, racist?
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,255
Would love Lukaku here. However when/if we sign him, we must insert a clause making him grow his locks back :tuttosport:







Also Lukaku>>>>>Morata I'd be down for a straight swap.
 
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