Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (93 Viewers)

[Orgut]

I expect us to do this summer the following:
If Morata indeed leaves - We will get either Banthuayi or Cavani (probably the first one)
AM - Saponara
CM - probably no one serious
CB - Benatia could be possible in a straight swap with Coman
RB - Caceres will leave which will make us sign some unknown RB
Zaza will leave and we will get one of the Serie B stars (Ganz or Lapadula)
Overall mercato will probably be meh

 

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[Nostradamus]

What about Calhanoglu? He is a great player, with good technique, passing, shooting... And also, Leverkusen will have a huge sale because they are probably not qualifying to CL, and it's not certain for EL either, so they will probably have to sell their main players: Calhanoglu, Kampl, Bellarabi, Leno, Kramer,... So I think he could be our treasure for next few seasons and could also be cheapper than other players at CAM spot.

Leverkusen dont 'need' to sell anybody, if they wont qualify for CL or EL. This is not some mismanaged club from Milano u r talking about, so to expect a 'huge sell' cos they have to in nonsense. Nevertheless, Leverkusen could be willing to sell a few players.

Calhanoglu: They already stated, that 40m€ would make them consider to sell. He has his qualities, but also big weaknesses, so its just a matter of money. He is not that great, but his standards definitely r.

Kampl: He belongs to the few players, where I think Leverkusen wouldnt be willing to consider to sell. This players wont be prized away easily and IMO ll stay next summer.

Bellarabi: Same like Calhanoglu. Has his qualities (fast, dribbling), but most of the times brainless with little intelligence. No reason to declare him unsellable.

Leno: Has a buyout clause for 18m, so in this case Leverkusen dont have any power and I see him leaving this summer. RB Leipzig interested, but maybe a bigger club from abroad has bigger chances.

Kramer: His performances got better with time, but he hasnt shown enough to be seen as a very important player for them. Leverkusen have been unlucky with injuries in that department, as L. Bender was injured most of the times and Aranguiz tore his ligament during preseason. If Leverkusen can keep Bender, then they could be willing to cash in on Kramer.

 

[lgorTudor]

http://www.transfermarkt.de/khedira...en-uber-seine-zukunft-ldquo-/view/news/230790
Khedira had a long talk with Götze

 

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[zizinho]

Leverkusen dont 'need' to sell anybody, if they wont qualify for CL or EL. This is not some mismanaged club from Milano u r talking about, so to expect a 'huge sell' cos they have to in nonsense. Nevertheless, Leverkusen could be willing to sell a few players.

Calhanoglu: They already stated, that 40m€ would make them consider to sell. He has his qualities, but also big weaknesses, so its just a matter of money. He is not that great, but his standards definitely r.

Kampl: He belongs to the few players, where I think Leverkusen wouldnt be willing to consider to sell. This players wont be prized away easily and IMO ll stay next summer.

Bellarabi: Same like Calhanoglu. Has his qualities (fast, dribbling), but most of the times brainless with little intelligence. No reason to declare him unsellable.

Leno: Has a buyout clause for 18m, so in this case Leverkusen dont have any power and I see him leaving this summer. RB Leipzig interested, but maybe a bigger club from abroad has bigger chances.

Kramer: His performances got better with time, but he hasnt shown enough to be seen as a very important player for them. Leverkusen have been unlucky with injuries in that department, as L. Bender was injured most of the times and Aranguiz tore his ligament during preseason. If Leverkusen can keep Bender, then they could be willing to cash in on Kramer.

is Gladbach willing to sell Xhaka and if yes for how much you think they would let him go

and the same question about Dahoud

 

[Nostradamus]

is Gladbach willing to sell Xhaka and if yes for how much you think they would let him go

and the same question about Dahoud

Xhaka is going to get sold and I think Eberl ll try to get 50m€ for him. Bayern plan was to get him in 2017, when the 30m€ clause can be activated, but Xhaka is eager to move this summer and Eberl would like to get much more than that 30m€, so Bayern is out and he ll highly likely end up in England.

Eberl has declared several times, that Dahoud is not for sale. U can believe him, when he is saying that the way he has done. Its tricky situation though, as his contract ends 2018 and an extension hasnt been fixed yet. That wont stop Eberl from staying reluctant to the idea of losing Xhaka and Dahoud in one summer. That wont happen. I would also say, that in the near future, there is no chance for Juve to get him. He ll go to Bayern or Dortmund (maybe Leipzig) in 2017, if he doesnt extend his contract.

 

[j0ker]

Oscar, do not sign him.

 

[Zacheryah]

No need to spend big on an AM anyway

 

[zizinho]

Xhaka is going to get sold and I think Eberl ll try to get 50m€ for him. Bayern plan was to get him in 2017, when the 30m€ clause can be activated, but Xhaka is eager to move this summer and Eberl would like to get much more than that 30m€, so Bayern is out and he ll highly likely end up in England.

Eberl has declared several times, that Dahoud is not for sale. U can believe him, when he is saying that the way he has done. Its tricky situation though, as his contract ends 2018 and an extension hasnt been fixed yet. That wont stop Eberl from staying reluctant to the idea of losing Xhaka and Dahoud in one summer. That wont happen. I would also say, that in the near future, there is no chance for Juve to get him. He ll go to Bayern or Dortmund (maybe Leipzig) in 2017, if he doesnt extend his contract.

is that how the player thinks? im sure these clubs will try to take him but maybe he prefers England? i have no idea about his intentions as i havent seen any interviews of him, thats why i ask

about Xhaka, i was guessing hes gone this summer. hes not German so he doesent have any reason to stay if he gets offers from abroad. also, im not sure if Conte has some players in mind already, but if he is aware about Xhaka and with him at Chelsea now i think they will look at him and might even be favorites to get him

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+ if he has a 30M clause next summer it will be more logical for them to sell now for more than to wait and lose him for less

 

[j0ker]

I have read quotes from both Buffon and Khedira today about a project that's aiming to make us one of the best teams in Europe in 2-3 years. (we already are one)

Haven't heard the term project in a while

 

[Liviu]

Football italia:

"Juventus are planning to pay Real Madrid the surplus they'd make by an Alvaro Morata resale, thus keeping the striker.
According to TuttoMercatoWeb, Juve's strategy to keep the 23-year-old involves addressing the surplus that Real Madrid expect to make from a Morata resale.
If they can reach an agreement with the Spanish club over the profit that they expect to make by selling Morata to a Premier League team, Juventus will pay that sum themselves and simply keep the striker, making both parties happy. "

So if EPL offer 50 for him, we'll pay another 20 to Real?? Beppe must learn that buy-back clauses are a total $#T! for the buying club!

 

[j0ker]

Football italia:

"Juventus are planning to pay Real Madrid the surplus they'd make by an Alvaro Morata resale, thus keeping the striker.
According to TuttoMercatoWeb, Juve's strategy to keep the 23-year-old involves addressing the surplus that Real Madrid expect to make from a Morata resale.
If they can reach an agreement with the Spanish club over the profit that they expect to make by selling Morata to a Premier League team, Juventus will pay that sum themselves and simply keep the striker, making both parties happy. "

So if EPL offer 50 for him, we'll pay another 20 to Real?? Beppe must learn that buy-back clauses are a total $#T! for the buying club!

Is he worth the 50mln difference between selling him and paying another 20mln to make him permanent?

 

[Nostradamus]

is that how the player thinks? im sure these clubs will try to take him but maybe he prefers England? i have no idea about his intentions as i havent seen any interviews of him, thats why i ask

about Xhaka, i was guessing hes gone this summer. hes not German so he doesent have any reason to stay if he gets offers from abroad. also, im not sure if Conte has some players in mind already, but if he is aware about Xhaka and with him at Chelsea now i think they will look at him and might even be favorites to get him

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+ if he has a 30M clause next summer it will be more logical for them to sell now for more than to wait and lose him for less

U r right of course, there is always the chance that he could decide to move to EPL directly instead, especially with Klopp at Liverpool. TBO I wanted to add that sentence, but my feelings say he ll stay in BL. I dont have deeper knowledge about what Dahoud thinks thought.

 

[lgorTudor]

Football italia:

"Juventus are planning to pay Real Madrid the surplus they'd make by an Alvaro Morata resale, thus keeping the striker.
According to TuttoMercatoWeb, Juve's strategy to keep the 23-year-old involves addressing the surplus that Real Madrid expect to make from a Morata resale.
If they can reach an agreement with the Spanish club over the profit that they expect to make by selling Morata to a Premier League team, Juventus will pay that sum themselves and simply keep the striker, making both parties happy. "

So if EPL offer 50 for him, we'll pay another 20 to Real?? Beppe must learn that buy-back clauses are a total $#T! for the buying club!

Another deal Beppe totally got rekt in but at this point I would pay and keep Morata at all costs.

 

[Nostradamus]

Another deal Beppe totally got rekt in but at this point I would pay and keep Morata at all costs.

The problem was, that Real had all the power they needed and if Juve wouldnt have agreed to that clause, then other clubs were waiting, e.g. Allofs from Wolfsburg tried everything, but had no chance to compete with a giant like Juve, but not money wise. They would have also paid the money for him. That happens, when u have to deal with Real. Blame them and not ur manager.

 

[lgorTudor]

The problem was, that Real had all the power they needed and if Juve wouldnt have agreed to that clause, then other clubs were waiting, e.g. Allofs from Wolfsburg tried everything, but had no chance to compete with a giant like Juve, but not money wise. They would have also paid the money for him. That happens, when u have to deal with Real. Blame them and not ur manager.

Why would I blame Real for setting up a smart deal?

I would laugh at them if they made the Morata deal like we did our Coman deal but how they handled Morata was perfect

 

[Zacheryah]

I have read quotes from both Buffon and Khedira today about a project that's aiming to make us one of the best teams in Europe in 2-3 years. (we already are one)

Haven't heard the term project in a while

Actual quotes ? Well keeping Morata, Dybala and Pogba is a nice way to kick it off. And its an incentive for especially pogba to stay.

Is he worth the 50mln difference between selling him and paying another 20mln to make him permanent?

Thats the suggested idea by tuttomercatoweb, where Football Italia was referring to. At this point i would consider that to be the most logical solution we can attempt.
Morata is worth over 30 mil so offcourse real will activate their clause and sell him for profit, since the player made it clear he wants to play if he stays.

So if we can provide the money between 30mil and the market value real labels him, both parties should be satisfied.

Another deal Beppe totally got rekt in but at this point I would pay and keep Morata at all costs.

Thats a very idiotic thing to say.

Real did not want to sell the player. They had straight cash offers superior to ours. They had simular constructed offers, superior to ours. Beppe managed to get Morata regardless for this 2 year period in wich he was vital to our growth and made a 10 mil profit along the way.

It would be absolutely stupid to assume that Madrid was just going to roll over and gift a player they didnt want to lose. Absolutely stupid, and short sighted.

if we manage to construct a deal that we can keep him, for 10 mil less then his current value, then thats also a great deal cause Madrid would not have sold him for less back then anyway.


Your hating on Marotta is silly, and idiotic

 

[kao_ray]

Yep, it was the clause or no Morata. Real didn't need/want to sell.

 

[lgorTudor]

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You are right and I was wrong. Juventus are the winner of the Morata deal.

 

[Zacheryah]

You are right and I was wrong. Juventus are the winner of the Morata deal.

We got a fair deal considering the circumstances. And it helped us a great deal