Main priority should be keeping Pogba and Morata and fixing the staff (injury) issue.
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Asa (if our medical staff (lol) thinks he ever would be healthy) and Pereyra should stay. Nanes should go. And Khedira should go I think, he doesn't bring enough in top matches, he is very fragile and has very high salary. We need to bring another quality CM.
352 with Cuad and Alex Sandro looks very promising, but you need another CM who covers ground and is fast enough to track back and prevent counters when Cuadrado plays too high.
352 with Cuad and Alex Sandro looks very promising, but you need another CM who covers ground and is fast enough to track back and prevent counters when Cuadrado plays too high.
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all i hear about him ever is that he is crap, never heard anything good about him
all i hear about him ever is that he is crap, never heard anything good about him
After "Auriergate", vdw has the opportunity to play but Blanc did not trust him so he prefers to play a central defender (marquinhios) rather than putting holder.
In addition to being an average footballer, he is mentally fragile
On the newspaper l'Equipe, he Left his team at half-time
"Zlatan enters the visitors locker room was displeased. He then address in English to Vdw which is far enough away from him in the locker room "Give me better assist. Vdw"I do what I can, if I can make you ... "."Listen plays as I say and that you will be fine' Ibra answer him in a tone of arrogant strand.
After this remark, Vdw loose his temper and a spear 'Fuck Off 'Ibra. Thiago Silva tries to intervene to calm him but without success. Visibly exasperated, Vdw heads to Blanc and asked to be replaced.'do you want go out? are you sure?' 2x Blanc asked. Vdw The response is always the same 'yes I am'. blanc then asks Marqui to go warm up. "
I think one of Sami's main strengths is his ability on the ball. We already have the players to play more possession based football but somehow it seems difficult for us. Possibly the problem is the movement of our players off the ball which just comes down to not concentrating enough on that kind of tactics in the training.
The key to possession based football is creating numerical advantages in some parts of the football pitch and exploiting that to keep the ball easier. Bayern does this by moving the full backs inside into the midfield and pushing their center backs as high as possible. This kind of game also has it's disadvantages as seen against us it can leave you very open at some parts of the field and forces a lot of one on ones on your defenders.
Our style of play is more conservative and rigid so most of our players stay in the position they have been assigned to. We use Pogba and Dybala to create numerical advantages in some occasions.
The key to possession based football is creating numerical advantages in some parts of the football pitch and exploiting that to keep the ball easier. Bayern does this by moving the full backs inside into the midfield and pushing their center backs as high as possible. This kind of game also has it's disadvantages as seen against us it can leave you very open at some parts of the field and forces a lot of one on ones on your defenders.
Our style of play is more conservative and rigid so most of our players stay in the position they have been assigned to. We use Pogba and Dybala to create numerical advantages in some occasions.
My take on our current team and positions we could make some reinforcements in. For each player I have put a number from 1-10 rating the players current abilities in that position, 10 meaning ~top 3 player in that position.
Potential lineup for next season with current players:
3-5-2
Gigi(10)
Barza(10) Bonucci(9) Chiellini(8.5)
Cuadrado(8) - Pogba(9) - Marchisio(7.5) - Khedira(7.5) - Sandro(9)
Morata(8) - Dybala(9)
Inspired by our lineup yesterday:
4-4-2
Gigi(10)
Licht(7.5) - Barza(10) - Bon(9) - Evra(7)
Cuadrado(9) - Pogba(9) - Khedira/Marchisio(7.5) - Sandro(9)
Morata(8) - Dybala(9)
So for me to see, we need to upgrade on a CM and maybe two if we intend to play with three in the middle. However it is still to be seen how Khedira can contribute if he gets back into shape and settles in more. He might take his game a level up, whereas for Marchisio I dont see him improving in the future.
If we are going to play 4-4-2 as we did against Bayern, I would take out a mid and put in Dybala. Sandro on the LB where he seems to be an unstoppable beast and look for a new LM. I would also look for a better CM to accompany Pogba, and a new LB instead of Lichtsteiner who will only get worse and worse and cant compete on the level we aim to reach. That would mean a new RB, LM and CM. To make us even more fluid and unpredictable, an LM with both offensive and defensive capabilities could be neat, one able to hold a free role, letting Sandro roam outside. Pogba could potentially be in that role with a new CM together with Marchisio or Khedira in the middle. A perfect scenario would be if Asamoah could get fully fit (wishful thinking!). Him and Sandro would rip teams apart out there with their speed, power, skills and agility. As LB I dont know who we would want, a defensive LB who could potentially also do as a CB? That would again give us a lot of tactical flexibility and we could shift between 3-5-2 and 4-4-2 during defence and attack!
4-4-2
Gigi(10)
RB - Barza(10) - Bonucci(9) - Sandro(10)
Cuadrado(9) - Pogba(9) - CM - LM
Morata(8) - Dybala(9)
In that team we would need to soon pay attention to Barza and Gigi who soon needs to be replaced unfortunately. Chiellini might give us some years after Barzagli though.
What do you guys think?
Potential lineup for next season with current players:
3-5-2
Gigi(10)
Barza(10) Bonucci(9) Chiellini(8.5)
Cuadrado(8) - Pogba(9) - Marchisio(7.5) - Khedira(7.5) - Sandro(9)
Morata(8) - Dybala(9)
Inspired by our lineup yesterday:
4-4-2
Gigi(10)
Licht(7.5) - Barza(10) - Bon(9) - Evra(7)
Cuadrado(9) - Pogba(9) - Khedira/Marchisio(7.5) - Sandro(9)
Morata(8) - Dybala(9)
So for me to see, we need to upgrade on a CM and maybe two if we intend to play with three in the middle. However it is still to be seen how Khedira can contribute if he gets back into shape and settles in more. He might take his game a level up, whereas for Marchisio I dont see him improving in the future.
If we are going to play 4-4-2 as we did against Bayern, I would take out a mid and put in Dybala. Sandro on the LB where he seems to be an unstoppable beast and look for a new LM. I would also look for a better CM to accompany Pogba, and a new LB instead of Lichtsteiner who will only get worse and worse and cant compete on the level we aim to reach. That would mean a new RB, LM and CM. To make us even more fluid and unpredictable, an LM with both offensive and defensive capabilities could be neat, one able to hold a free role, letting Sandro roam outside. Pogba could potentially be in that role with a new CM together with Marchisio or Khedira in the middle. A perfect scenario would be if Asamoah could get fully fit (wishful thinking!). Him and Sandro would rip teams apart out there with their speed, power, skills and agility. As LB I dont know who we would want, a defensive LB who could potentially also do as a CB? That would again give us a lot of tactical flexibility and we could shift between 3-5-2 and 4-4-2 during defence and attack!
4-4-2
Gigi(10)
RB - Barza(10) - Bonucci(9) - Sandro(10)
Cuadrado(9) - Pogba(9) - CM - LM
Morata(8) - Dybala(9)
In that team we would need to soon pay attention to Barza and Gigi who soon needs to be replaced unfortunately. Chiellini might give us some years after Barzagli though.
What do you guys think?
I am hearing everyone saying that our main priority is to keep Pogba and Morata and I am wondering, am I the only one that disagrees here?
This is a priority of course but not the main one. The main one is to make the jump in quality finally. This is the way we'll keep our bight young starters and Allegri as well, who's experimenting with not the players he wants for 2 years now..
I want to take as a given that we'll try our best to keep our young stars and our coach. After the Coman/Vidal incident I want to believe that this lesson is learned. However, we are now in a very crucial point in our road. Right now we are like Pereyra, we re almost. Now we should be. Till now we were the exception, the surprise. Now we should be the norm, if we want to give a reason to Pogba, Morata, Dybala and Allegri to stay here. To not follow Vidal's steps to win something. To make him believe that he can win this something here. Loyalty cases like Nedved, Buffon and Del Piero are rare. That's why they are great fairy tails. But you can't expect this by everyone.
Right now we belong in the group of teams under Barca and Bayern. Now we should make the jump if we want our great players and coach to remain here. And I don't want to here the "we're in Italy" argument. Bayern is in Germany and they re doing great with organisation, a great model and no oil money.
We're getting in a very important summer. Which will determine if we will remain a maybe (and lose our world class players/coach eventually) or become a top 3 team. We have a very very good base. Now we should build our dynasty. We are in a good financial base. In Italy we are dominating (in terms of titles and talent we sing). We have finished with our transition between generations. and finally the board should trust Allegri 100% by now. Now its the time to splash big, support the coach and reassure the players. Splash on both, talent and already great players. We can't proceed with another transitional year. We can't wait for talents to produce in 2 years. We need quality now. We need next year to be among the 3 favorites for the CL. Splash the cash now. As we saw with Dybala and Sandro its fucking worth it..
This is a priority of course but not the main one. The main one is to make the jump in quality finally. This is the way we'll keep our bight young starters and Allegri as well, who's experimenting with not the players he wants for 2 years now..
I want to take as a given that we'll try our best to keep our young stars and our coach. After the Coman/Vidal incident I want to believe that this lesson is learned. However, we are now in a very crucial point in our road. Right now we are like Pereyra, we re almost. Now we should be. Till now we were the exception, the surprise. Now we should be the norm, if we want to give a reason to Pogba, Morata, Dybala and Allegri to stay here. To not follow Vidal's steps to win something. To make him believe that he can win this something here. Loyalty cases like Nedved, Buffon and Del Piero are rare. That's why they are great fairy tails. But you can't expect this by everyone.
Right now we belong in the group of teams under Barca and Bayern. Now we should make the jump if we want our great players and coach to remain here. And I don't want to here the "we're in Italy" argument. Bayern is in Germany and they re doing great with organisation, a great model and no oil money.
We're getting in a very important summer. Which will determine if we will remain a maybe (and lose our world class players/coach eventually) or become a top 3 team. We have a very very good base. Now we should build our dynasty. We are in a good financial base. In Italy we are dominating (in terms of titles and talent we sing). We have finished with our transition between generations. and finally the board should trust Allegri 100% by now. Now its the time to splash big, support the coach and reassure the players. Splash on both, talent and already great players. We can't proceed with another transitional year. We can't wait for talents to produce in 2 years. We need quality now. We need next year to be among the 3 favorites for the CL. Splash the cash now. As we saw with Dybala and Sandro its fucking worth it..
Being tired of the will to do the same every year! It seems to me like our management just not ambitious enough!
I dont want our team to be an outsiders for the CL I want us to be one of the favorites!
I want us to have a team that wont need to defend the way we had against Bayern but could also reduce pressure on us by attacking - To do so we need some major improvements attacking wise but its not on the expense of our current great players but to replace the not good enough players!
Pogba must remain and need to be convinced with purchases such as Cavani and a top class midfielder (CM/AM depends on formation)
We need to think forward and not how to remain the same
Football Italia released a news article that says we will sell Pogba and buy some players.. Its not bad if you dont like to improve...
If you want to be the best you should try to be the best which means best tactican best formation best coaching staff and yes the very obvious thing which is -> the best players!
I`m being seriously tired of this I want us to lift the CL title it has been too long since we won it and we also need to do it more often!
I dont expect us to have a better attacking presence than Barcelona as this is quite impossible but We are better defensive our mid could become equally as good and even better and our attack might not surpass them but we can close the way wide gap to a much smaller one!
By doing this we will greatly increase our chances against the likes of Bayern and Barcelona and will be one of the favorites to the CL!
I dont want our team to be an outsiders for the CL I want us to be one of the favorites!
I want us to have a team that wont need to defend the way we had against Bayern but could also reduce pressure on us by attacking - To do so we need some major improvements attacking wise but its not on the expense of our current great players but to replace the not good enough players!
Pogba must remain and need to be convinced with purchases such as Cavani and a top class midfielder (CM/AM depends on formation)
We need to think forward and not how to remain the same
Football Italia released a news article that says we will sell Pogba and buy some players.. Its not bad if you dont like to improve...
If you want to be the best you should try to be the best which means best tactican best formation best coaching staff and yes the very obvious thing which is -> the best players!
I`m being seriously tired of this I want us to lift the CL title it has been too long since we won it and we also need to do it more often!
I dont expect us to have a better attacking presence than Barcelona as this is quite impossible but We are better defensive our mid could become equally as good and even better and our attack might not surpass them but we can close the way wide gap to a much smaller one!
By doing this we will greatly increase our chances against the likes of Bayern and Barcelona and will be one of the favorites to the CL!
Well put, completely agree 
We need game changers. Pogba hasn't been that like seasons before. Dybala took that burden off Tevez nicely but last year we also had Pirlo. We dont' have the kind of player in midfield. So I guess maybe that's where an Isco/Goetze would slot in nicely in terms of creativity. We have an army of hard working industrial players now we actually do need something more fancy.
for the most part, i agree, but:
oil money or not, they have one of the best sponsorship deals around, just look at their adidas deal. their commercial revenue for last year surpassed the 275m mark (juve: 73,5m!), and that alone would almost put them in the top10 teams with the most revenue around.
our chances of getting such commercial revenue is highly unlikely. we have a relatively small stadium, so our matchday income won't get us nowhere near the wealthiest teams. we're relying mainly on broadcasting rights. i have a huge respect for the job agnelli&co are doing, but in serie a, you won't get above 400m of revenue in the near future. i'm not saying we are poor, i'm not saying we have no chance to catch up with the big boys on the pitch, i'm just saying that in terms of sheer financial power, with their sponsorship deals bayern is in the league of the oil teams, and we can't expect juve to copy bayern's model. we'd need some huge sponsorship deals for that, and no sponsor is willing to spend big in serie a.
oil money or not, they have one of the best sponsorship deals around, just look at their adidas deal. their commercial revenue for last year surpassed the 275m mark (juve: 73,5m!), and that alone would almost put them in the top10 teams with the most revenue around.
our chances of getting such commercial revenue is highly unlikely. we have a relatively small stadium, so our matchday income won't get us nowhere near the wealthiest teams. we're relying mainly on broadcasting rights. i have a huge respect for the job agnelli&co are doing, but in serie a, you won't get above 400m of revenue in the near future. i'm not saying we are poor, i'm not saying we have no chance to catch up with the big boys on the pitch, i'm just saying that in terms of sheer financial power, with their sponsorship deals bayern is in the league of the oil teams, and we can't expect juve to copy bayern's model. we'd need some huge sponsorship deals for that, and no sponsor is willing to spend big in serie a.
IF we sell to Pogba is should be to PSG and only with an exchange of some sort for Verratti otherwise I can't really think of another option that helps us by losing Pogba. I also don't like the idea of clubs knowing we are suddenly 100m richer. We will get rekt.
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We need to be consistently in the quarters/semi's of the CL for those big sponsors to pay up IMO.
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We need to be consistently in the quarters/semi's of the CL for those big sponsors to pay up IMO.
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