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michel

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Mar 25, 2010
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-James - obviously the best player to get, not necessarily the best deal though. Huge salary and being a left footed are the two big NOes in this deal, but again what most called imposible 12 months ago is definitely POSSIBLE now.
James doesn't earn that much, Football Leaks released his contract and he earns around 3.8M/year NET or little less than 8M/year gross, so his salary shouldn't be a problem, but I think that he is impossible to get for us, he will go for 60M+ easily.

https://footballleaks2015.wordpress.com/2016/02/15/real-madrid-james-rodriguez/

Oh and to choose between Isco and James, that's very easy. James is by far better than Isco, he is the classic AM, has a deadly left foot and can assist for fun. Isco on the other hand is typical Real Madrid player, flashy, doesn't give a fuck how team plays and is only concerned with how many players can he dribble, hogs the ball all the time, and is slowing down the play.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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James is an AM playmaker, him being left footed has nothing to do with Dybala so why would you pass.
Thanks, that was exactly my point.

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James doesn't earn that much, Football Leaks released his contract and he earns around 3.8M/year NET or little less than 8M/year gross, so his salary shouldn't be a problem, but I think that he is impossible to get for us, he will go for 60M+ easily.

https://footballleaks2015.wordpress.com/2016/02/15/real-madrid-james-rodriguez/
80+ mil. Isnt he the most consistent starting cam for real ?
 
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Thanks, that was exactly my point.

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80+ mil. Isnt he the most consistent starting cam for real ?
Zach, again. If you meant Messi is a playmaker and Dybala is a striker - I did not get that. I was gonna laugh a lot more on that argument!

James is the best starter in Real Madrid right now too Zach. Probably best ever. He is level with Messi, Ballon dór contender and all that...
@michelkovac
Maybe with the mad taxes in Spain that is the case? Seem reasonable the numbers you give and I read he was unhappy and he wanted 12m per year, which sounds in line with what Sergio Ramos got and overall reasonable for RM. But some were speculating he was on 12m now and wanted pay parity with Bale/Ronaldo... So that is a different story.
 

Siamak

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Michy Batshuayi



he has been played 26 games for Marseille and scored 13 goals and assisted 7 goals he also played 38 games for Marseille in 2015/2016 and scored 18 goals with assisted 8 goals
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Zach, again. If you meant Messi is a playmaker and Dybala is a striker - I did not get that. I was gonna laugh a lot more on that argument!

James is the best starter in Real Madrid right now too Zach. Probably best ever. He is level with Messi, Ballon dór contender and all that...
@michelkovac
Maybe with the mad taxes in Spain that is the case? Seem reasonable the numbers you give and I read he was unhappy and he wanted 12m per year, which sounds in line with what Sergio Ramos got and overall reasonable for RM. But some were speculating he was on 12m now and wanted pay parity with Bale/Ronaldo... So that is a different story.
My point is that it doesnt matter what feet he's using. wether its left or right doesnt matter at all. If he has a terrible other feet, that could be an issue, but it doesnt matter wether its left or right.

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Michy Batshuayi
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he has been played 26 games for Marseille and scored 13 goals and assisted 7 goals he also played 38 games for Marseille in 2015/2016 and scored 18 goals with assisted 8 goals
He will go to EPL, forget about it.
 
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My point is that it doesnt matter what feet he's using. wether its left or right doesnt matter at all. If he has a terrible other feet, that could be an issue, but it doesnt matter wether its left or right.
Oh, here we disagree again. It does matter which feet he is using. In fact it matters A LOT. Ambidexterity is quite rare and the ability for development is severely limited by the brain. That means age regresses it and only major injuries develop it, but they are by far the most counter-productive method I could think of if we talk about football players.

In short, just for the smartest around, it would be easier to teach James to play as a wide defender than to use his other foot. The results will be better too.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Zach, again. If you meant Messi is a playmaker and Dybala is a striker - I did not get that. I was gonna laugh a lot more on that argument!

James is the best starter in Real Madrid right now too Zach. Probably best ever. He is level with Messi, Ballon dór contender and all that...
@michelkovac
Maybe with the mad taxes in Spain that is the case? Seem reasonable the numbers you give and I read he was unhappy and he wanted 12m per year, which sounds in line with what Sergio Ramos got and overall reasonable for RM. But some were speculating he was on 12m now and wanted pay parity with Bale/Ronaldo... So that is a different story.
Nothing of what you say makes sense, James is criticised alot for his form this season, as is Isco, James even more due to his bigger reputation. He doesnt earn that much and he did not replace Bale well while latter was injured. He is not in a position to be demanding raise right now, his worry is more finding consistent quality performances and a role that suits him under the different coaches so far.
 
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Nothing of what you say makes sense, James is criticised alot for his form this season, as is Isco, James even more due to his bigger reputation. He doesnt earn that much and he did not replace Bale well while latter was injured. He is not in a position to be demanding raise right now, his worry is more finding consistent quality performances and a role that suits him under the different coaches so far.
In fact most of what you said is simply NOT true, while the other part is what has been reported.
1. His camp finds his form a byproduct of his rotation. I know that is a normal excuse, but it still applies.
2. They say he was promised a new contract by the end of last season when he signed and Perez is using the overall performance of the team to postpone his promise. They also feel James performed over the whole period to deserve a new contract. Obviously even the dumbest around would figure out that more that the concrete amounts its the intention that matters here (is he still in the plans?), but that doesn't mean he will take what he perceives as a pay-cut.
3.Sarcasm, someone recommended it along with the music you were listening... :) (regarding the parts about parity with messi..etc. in case I am not the only one smokin...)
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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He was fantastic last season so if he was promised new contract then he should gotten it(no, he is not on thar high of a salary). But for this season it's not the case at all, I listen to Real fans I know moan about his lack of performances and meek mentality on weekly basis. Tell them often to not forget how good he can be as he showed last season.


You sarcasm was poor, I replied because of you saying he is the best starter in Real. Ignored the Messi comment as clear hyperbole, but you been saying enough questionable stuff for me to take the first comment seriously.
 
Apr 29, 2006
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He was fantastic last season so if he was promised new contract then he should gotten it(no, he is not on thar high of a salary). But for this season it's not the case at all, I listen to Real fans I know moan about his lack of performances and meek mentality on weekly basis. Tell them often to not forget how good he can be as he showed last season.


You sarcasm was poor, I replied because of you saying he is the best starter in Real. Ignored the Messi comment as clear hyperbole, but you been saying enough questionable stuff for me to take the first comment seriously.
I would disagree with the questionable stuff, but completely agree with your assessment of James's season and relation with fans. In fact if you were reading my posts I am arguing with Zach that James is not the same type of WC player Messi is. He somehow twisted your argument imho, but that is besides the point. And I was generally agreeing with what @michelkovac was saying - from what I heard it makes sense.

Also people here tend to forget we have Berardi supposedly lined up @25 mils. Not a deal I would easily overlook, and even if we sell Mandzukic he will mostly rotate with Dybala, no?
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
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what nonsense. Barzagli signed a new contract, we have Bonucci, Chiellini, Rugani. whats the point of spending 30M on Benatia then? if Barzagli was retiring it would make sense, otherwise no
 

VuvuzelaBzz

Son of a Shepherd
Jun 23, 2013
311
what nonsense. Barzagli signed a new contract, we have Bonucci, Chiellini, Rugani. whats the point of spending 30M on Benatia then? if Barzagli was retiring it would make sense, otherwise no
If we're sticking with 3 at the back and don't trust Raguno, it makes perfect sense that we'd want another quality CB. That said, I don't see why Bayern would let him go, so it's probably bullshit.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,322
Benatia is a great player but I dont see any reason why we should splash on him when we can strengthen areas which we lack in more...
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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James doesn't earn that much, Football Leaks released his contract and he earns around 3.8M/year NET or little less than 8M/year gross, so his salary shouldn't be a problem, but I think that he is impossible to get for us, he will go for 60M+ easily.

https://footballleaks2015.wordpress.com/2016/02/15/real-madrid-james-rodriguez/

Oh and to choose between Isco and James, that's very easy. James is by far better than Isco, he is the classic AM, has a deadly left foot and can assist for fun. Isco on the other hand is typical Real Madrid player, flashy, doesn't give a $#@! how team plays and is only concerned with how many players can he dribble, hogs the ball all the time, and is slowing down the play.
I agree that James is better but you are way too harsh on Isco. You make him seem like a shit player

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what nonsense. Barzagli signed a new contract, we have Bonucci, Chiellini, Rugani. whats the point of spending 30M on Benatia then? if Barzagli was retiring it would make sense, otherwise no
:agree:

If we sign Benatia (which I dont think we would), it means Barza will be our 4th choice cb and rugani 5th. That would be showing too little faith in Rugani. We should expect him to fill Cacares' bench spot at least and not one spot behind that.

If we do reinforce CB then we need some one that can compete with rugani and not some one will obviously be first choice.
 

JuveID

Allegri and Beppe Mania
Feb 5, 2015
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I don't believe this and I don't believe that either.

We had Dybala bagged by April, followed by Beppes famous "our mercato consists of keeping key players" speech. It was the time when everybody believed we could keep all players AND buy some 1B quality trequartista because of 100mil CL revenue. After Vidal had been sold we spectacularly failed to accomplish our main task of purchasing an attacking midfielder and went to lick our wounds by signing woody woodpecker, zaza and hernanes. I firmly believe that without selling Vidal, giving away Nando and signing Zaza, Hernanes, Lemina we would have enough money for Sandro and Dybala.

Vidal sale should have brought us an attacking midfield but it didn't.
at the time, i also believed that we could buy players like dybala and alex sandro and keeping all of our star.
but after read juventus financial statement at june, i was surprising we just got around 3-4 million euros profit after had nice run in CL.
starting from that, i was not sure anymore we can keep vidal after bought dybala and signed khedira.

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If we're sticking with 3 at the back and don't trust Raguno, it makes perfect sense that we'd want another quality CB. That said, I don't see why Bayern would let him go, so it's probably bull$#@!.
he still 21 years old. he will show you are wrong.
 
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