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zizinho

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I really miss Camoranesi and Nedved I hope we can get 2 players like them!
Camoranesi is probably the most underrated Juve player of all time! he had such a great technique and was quite an assist machine!
Nedved needs no introductions :D
but Camo does? :mad:
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He's an excellent prospect, and Osman reboosted the high hopes i had for him when he arrived.


Its would be classic Marotta's juve if Lemina slowly grows into the team and kicks khedira out

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1) Agreed. The main summer goal should be this position.
2) Considering we have Khedira,Sturaro and the development of Lemina, and also Pereyra, its not really high on the list. But if there is a good deal, snatch it.
3) If there is a good deal, snatch it, but not high on the list

Berardi should be sold, he doesnt fit

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:agree: top priority


What can we get for ±30-35 mil thats completely worth it ?
1)if this is the summer when we part ways with Caceres (most likely yes) then we definitely need a RB and Vrsaljko seems like the most obvious choice. we were behind Sassuolo getting him in the 1st place anyway, hes been playing constantly for 3 seasons now (1st at Genoa now at Sassuolo), is playing for his NT and is actually performing on a good level consistently. out of his competition there were Widmer who has slowed down this season and is even getting benched a lot lately, Zappacosta went to Torino and is also not living up to expectations, Darmian will probably be kept by Mourinho i think, De Sciglio probably stay at Milan and that leaves Fabinho as the only other player we might get. i dont know much bout him though, i only saw him vs us last season where he was great. he will also probably cost much more. maybe there is someone cheaper from BL, i dont know. Vrsaljko can also play as LB though he only played there once last season when he was very mediocre (i watched the game).

2)i have a feeling we might be "cleaning out" our midfield in the summer. Asamoah and Pereyra, and also Khedira and Lemina to a lesser extent, no matter how good they are, if they miss so much games + the games where they are trying to get back in form and look completely out of shape, they cant be counted on in the long run. especially now with our limited depth that comes with the new rule about hg players starting next season. we will probably not sell all, but i think atleast 2 will be gone. Lemina seems to be fine now, so hell most likely be kept if he stays healthy. also Hernanes out. a starting caliber AM that can play CM when we play 3-5-2 would be ideal.

also, Berardi should be bought. he certainly isnt as impressive as he was last 2 seasons and wont get a starting spot right away but hes Italys top attacking prospect and he should be atleast given a chance here.
 

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but Camo does? :mad:
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1)if this is the summer when we part ways with Caceres (most likely yes) then we definitely need a RB and Vrsaljko seems like the most obvious choice. we were behind Sassuolo getting him in the 1st place anyway, hes been playing constantly for 3 seasons now (1st at Genoa now at Sassuolo), is playing for his NT and is actually performing on a good level consistently. out of his competition there were Widmer who has slowed down this season and is even getting benched a lot lately, Zappacosta went to Torino and is also not living up to expectations, Darmian will probably be kept by Mourinho i think, De Sciglio probably stay at Milan and that leaves Fabinho as the only other player we might get. i dont know much bout him though, i only saw him vs us last season where he was great. he will also probably cost much more. maybe there is someone cheaper from BL, i dont know. Vrsaljko can also play as LB though he only played there once last season when he was very mediocre (i watched the game).

2)i have a feeling we might be "cleaning out" our midfield in the summer. Asamoah and Pereyra, and also Khedira and Lemina to a lesser extent, no matter how good they are, if they miss so much games + the games where they are trying to get back in form and look completely out of shape, they cant be counted on in the long run. especially now with our limited depth that comes with the new rule about hg players starting next season. we will probably not sell all, but i think atleast 2 will be gone. Lemina seems to be fine now, so hell most likely be kept if he stays healthy. also Hernanes out. a starting caliber AM that can play CM when we play 3-5-2 would be ideal.

also, Berardi should be bought. he certainly isnt as impressive as he was last 2 seasons and wont get a starting spot right away but hes Italys top attacking prospect and he should be atleast given a chance here.
Isnt vander weil available on a bosman?
 

Karim30

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May 6, 2012
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I am not sure about Van Der Weil's contract situation after the Aurier fiasco, but we were linked recently with Manquillo..Atletico Madrid's 21 yo RB who was loaned last season and is loaned this season to Marseille with an option to buy at 5m..If we can snatch him for maximum 10m it would be a great deal..I also read that we want to extend Lemina's loan for an additional season which would be the perfect scenario as it's better to assess his game and above all his fitness him over the course of an additional hopefully injury free season.
 
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I like how people act like its so horrific. Our own politicians for example.
The bad parts of brussels, are about the same as la gare du nord in Paris....

Its boring as shit to visit as a tourist, but its absolutely not bad to live in.
Belgium would always be small, peasants village, compared to Gare du Nord or just about any other part of Paris. Saint-Denis may be an exception here. No doubts about it.

Is it a good place to live(Belgium or BG :) ) ? Hell yeah! It is in Europe.
Is Greece a better place to live? Incalculably better! Better place to work? Only for a few. Better place to cite the virtues of public health care - NO, not for THOSE people - paying less than 75E per night.

I don't want to sound offensive, but Europe is Europe. And Belgium, despite the fact that it is the Brussels of the EU, is NOT the center of Europe.
 

Orgut

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He's got potential to be a starter. Besides his injury record there's really nothing to dislike. The kid is a fighter, good work rate, tackling, passing and dribbling. He's a bit of a hot head sometimes but that kind of players are necessary too.
Fighter yes good work rate yes tackling he is ok not more than that passing he is ok and dribbling he is ok - He is not great at anything but being a hard worker!
IMO Sturaro is a much better player - Much better at defending at the very least!

Exactly how I feel. Maybe Lemina could become Vidal's replacement if he continues this way.
I wouldnt bet on it..

Vidal and Pogba are the only players who are great defensively and offensively!

As for Khedira who is certainly better than Lemina - I still dont think he is good enough!
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Khedira is a fantastic player but injuries have affected his physical condition this season. and its not like he has any heavy injuries, these are all small injuries that keep him sidelined for 2-3 weeks every now and then. i wonder if he will be able to stay fit over a longer period of time next season, and if we will see him return to his WC form then
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
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Khedira is slow, he's good at keeping the MF ticking but he's nowhere near the beast that Vidal was defensively and we need someone like that to play with Marchisio and Pogba.
 

Osman

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Fighter yes good work rate yes tackling he is ok not more than that passing he is ok and dribbling he is ok - He is not great at anything but being a hard worker!
IMO Sturaro is a much better player - Much better at defending at the very least!
Are we in the twilight zone? He does more precise great tackles in one game then Sturaro does in 5. His first game alone showed more dominant defensive presence in a big way.

And Lemina is clearly more complete player, quicker and stronger and better ball handler then Sturaro (it's his main weakness, when in possession), so how is the latter better exactly?
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Fighter yes good work rate yes tackling he is ok not more than that passing he is ok and dribbling he is ok - He is not great at anything but being a hard worker!
IMO Sturaro is a much better player - Much better at defending at the very least!
I strongly disagree. IMO Sturaro is inferior to Lemina, mainly because Sturaro is pretty much useless when we have the ball. Both are good defensively and both are fighters, but I'll always take Lemina ahead of Sturaro simply because Lemina is better on the ball and offers more when in possession.

The only downside Lemina has in comparison to Sturaro is his injury record. That's the way I see it.
 

dolph

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Fighter yes good work rate yes tackling he is ok not more than that passing he is ok and dribbling he is ok - He is not great at anything but being a hard worker!
IMO Sturaro is a much better player - Much better at defending at the very least!



I wouldnt bet on it..

Vidal and Pogba are the only players who are great defensively and offensively!

As for Khedira who is certainly better than Lemina - I still dont think he is good enough!
Sturaro a much better player than Lemina. You must be high. Lemina is a beast player, fast, strong, aggressive with good technic and a nice passing range. He definetly has the potential to be a starter here if he keeps developing. Sturaro on the other hand could be a good squad player but does not have the ability to be a starter.
 

Hydde

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Mar 6, 2003
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I strongly disagree. IMO Sturaro is inferior to Lemina, mainly because Sturaro is pretty much useless when we have the ball. Both are good defensively and both are fighters, but I'll always take Lemina ahead of Sturaro simply because Lemina is better on the ball and offers more when in possession.

The only downside Lemina has in comparison to Sturaro is his injury record. That's the way I see it.
Sturaro a much better player than Lemina. You must be high. Lemina is a beast player, fast, strong, aggressive with good technic and a nice passing range. He definetly has the potential to be a starter here if he keeps developing. Sturaro on the other hand could be a good squad player but does not have the ability to be a starter.
I sincerely think we should keep both. One for our starting 11 when we want to propose (Lemina), and the other when we are planning a defensive waiting game or as a shut-down shop sub (Sturaro).

Asamoah,Hernanes and Khedira could be sold IMO. Hernanes and Khedira at the very least...because i would prefer the physicality of asamoah (if he can stay fit)over the other 2.

Stay with Pogba, marchisio and Asa(if fit) as our veteran backbone... keep Lemina and Sturaro to fight for a spot and try Mandragora to see what he has got as a vice Marchisio. That way we have Asa/Pogs, Cheesio/Mandra, and Lemina/Stu (we could also try Lemina as a vice cheesio).

The icing on the cake of our midfield should obviously be a world beater creative midfielder for the AM position. Thats the highest priority.

The rest of the money used to buy a RB, a Morata replacement and a CB.
 

Siamak

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Sturaro a much better player than Lemina. You must be high. Lemina is a beast player, fast, strong, aggressive with good technic and a nice passing range. He definetly has the potential to be a starter here if he keeps developing. Sturaro on the other hand could be a good squad player but does not have the ability to be a starter.
sturaro is very solid defensively and more defensively than lemina as DM he is the best choice for 3-5-2 lemina as CM that has creative midfielder characteristics he can help to our attackers more of an AM then CM i dont compare them with each other because They play two different positions
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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sturaro is very solid defensively and more defensively than lemina as DM he is the best choice for 3-5-2 lemina as CM that has creative midfielder characteristics he can help to our attackers more of an AM then CM i dont compare them with each other because They play two different positions
I dont agree at all. Sturaro playes RCM for us. He is defensively strong but offers very little offensively. Lemina played DM when Marchisio was missing in the beginning of the season. After Marchisio returned he has been playing the same RCM as Sturaro. He offers more going forward than Sturaro but that is not really hes best attribute. He is very fast and strong and can cover a lot of ground defensively. They have a lot of similarities but Lemina is the better player. Calling him an AM is just wrong in every way. He has never played that for us neither has he the skill set to succed in that role.
 
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