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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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I don't think we need to touch our attackers other than possibly signing Berardi. Midfield needs to be strengthened once again with needing cover for both AM and DM and maybe even CM if we don't decide to sign Lemina. Defense is other part that needs rejuvenating with a new CB and RB and if Evra doesn't resign we need cover at LB also.
I wouldn't do too much shuffling in our attack. Assuming that Morata stays we're fine in this department. Cbs also should be the least of our concerns with Rugani here imho

We need quality CM, either young player with WC potential or immediate high quality player like Gundogan, but the latter is unlikely. Eventhough Khedira is great, but him being fit for most of the games seems far fetched and possibility of Sturaro featuring 25+ games isn't enticing.

Another priority should be RB, if there were signs before now it's becoming more and more apparent that Licht is finished and shouldn't be our starter next season.

The most of our funds need be allocated for these two positions.

Buffon (Neto)

RB (Licht) Bonucci (Rugani) Barzagli (Chiellini) Sandro (Evra)

Khedira (CM) Marchisio (Mandragora) Pogba (Asamoah)

Pereyra (Cuadrado)

Dybala (Zaza) Mandžukić (Morata)

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Hernanes will prolly go to China at the end of season. :xfinger:
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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Cuad isn't there for AM (was too lazy to writte that), but more for 3-5-2. I really don't know what formation we'll use, this is just my general selection of players.

Players like Gundogan would be well capable of playing in AM spot. Max usually uses these types of CMs there and he can also replace Khedira in 3-5-2.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Gundogan is a creative CM, he isnt an AM and should be played that high up. He is little mobile, but he doesnt move or perform like any variation of AM, besides passing really well. Waste to restrict him to that IMO.



Also more importantly, we wont be able to get him.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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I already told you why. Wages aren't everything, and we can offer him close to what he earns currently. Chelsea won't partake in the CL, United likely won't either. If he's concerned about salary only, which he isn't, he'll go to China, not Chelsea.
Thats a big stretch there. Players want cash, but they'll want to play at a reputable team. A prime player will get the best option from the competitive leagues, and go to the middle east when his career is done to make twice as much, or these days china.

But you dont do that at 28 and prime, when you have so much to win.



Wages arent everything, fine. We'll need to convince him with sportive performance. i'd like Cavani as much as you but he's a premium, first pick, player. We normally dont have a shot at those.

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Cuad isn't there for AM (was too lazy to writte that), but more for 3-5-2. I really don't know what formation we'll use, this is just my general selection of players.

Players like Gundogan would be well capable of playing in AM spot. Max usually uses these types of CMs there and he can also replace Khedira in 3-5-2.
Gundogan is not an AM and shouldnt play there.



Sorry mate, but we seriously need people to stop thinking any well talented midfielder can automatically shine as AM. Like Pogba, it would ruin gundogan's game.



I blame the horrible lack of high popularity AM's these days. But AM really is a very very difficult position and requires a very specific type of skillsets

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Oh and @Osman thanks for pointing out gundogan is offcourse impossible
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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because Bayern is involved, if the rumours are true. they rarely miss out on players they want and usually conclude the deals very fast. and btw, was he even followed by us up until now? is he one of those players we were scouting for a long time and both the club and player are aware of our strong interest? this situation doesent seem like that to me from the limited knowledge i have about it. + we have some kind of agreement on Donsah with them already which might make things more complicated, im sure they would ask of us to buy Donsah too if we asked about Diawara... anyway, its still too early but if Bayern is really on him, then i expect them to make this official as soon as mercato opens, unless ofcourse Marotta has been working on this deal behind the shadows for a while already
 
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I wouldn't do too much shuffling in our attack. Assuming that Morata stays we're fine in this department. Cbs also should be the least of our concerns with Rugani here imho

We need quality CM, either young player with WC potential or immediate high quality player like Gundogan, but the latter is unlikely. Eventhough Khedira is great, but him being fit for most of the games seems far fetched and possibility of Sturaro featuring 25+ games isn't enticing.

Another priority should be RB, if there were signs before now it's becoming more and more apparent that Licht is finished and shouldn't be our starter next season.

The most of our funds need be allocated for these two positions.

Buffon (Neto)

RB (Licht) Bonucci (Rugani) Barzagli (Chiellini) Sandro (Evra)

Khedira (CM) Marchisio (Mandragora) Pogba (Asamoah)

Pereyra (Cuadrado)

Dybala (Zaza) Mandžukić (Morata)

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Hernanes will prolly go to China at the end of season. :xfinger:
CB should be quite high on the list as we are lacking depth there if Caceres leaves and even if he stays he is so injury prone these days that I wouldn't count on him. We use 3 central defenders in our main formation and without Caceres we only have four that's too thin.
 
Jan 5, 2007
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I know 4312 is allegri favorit formation.
But with it we lose one of our main 3 cb plus we will need an RB and quads is not needed anymore.

And first we need a proper AM.

Our team is doing great with 352 and our squad is build for it, why not just improve it?!
 

Nostradamus

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Dec 12, 2012
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because Bayern is involved, if the rumours are true. they rarely miss out on players they want and usually conclude the deals very fast. and btw, was he even followed by us up until now? is he one of those players we were scouting for a long time and both the club and player are aware of our strong interest? this situation doesent seem like that to me from the limited knowledge i have about it. + we have some kind of agreement on Donsah with them already which might make things more complicated, im sure they would ask of us to buy Donsah too if we asked about Diawara... anyway, its still too early but if Bayern is really on him, then i expect them to make this official as soon as mercato opens, unless ofcourse Marotta has been working on this deal behind the shadows for a while already
There r countless of nonsense rumours about players Bayern r interested in, but this one seems to be a realistic one. 1st rumours started beginning of this season and it came up again during the winter break. It was said, that Bayern plan to meet with Bologna officials beginning February and in this case I somehow trust GDM with his latest statement, that this meeting has happened lately and that it was positive and further meetings going to happen in the upcoming weeks to conclude the deal.

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/calciom...mo-incontro-con-il-bayern-monaco-per-diawara/

Another player, who is linked and would make sense is Bernadeschi. These two names I consider legit rumours.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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Sensi, Diawara and mandrogara are just potential Top Players so if we are gonna bet on them lets get rid of Hernanes, Sturaro, Lemina and Padoin and maybe even let go Asamoah cuz if we r gonna bring three youngsters we need also to buy a current Top CM. There's not make any sense to have 7 subs material players in our MF
These two are reliable players who consistently give the same output and do not expect to play much. I would keep them unless a good offer is made. We know what their quality level is and can rely on them in times of need. They can also play a variety of positions.

Asamoah is a very high quality player wherever you deploy him. The only question is his injury record. Lemina and Hernanes should be offloaded. A world class CM/CAM should be bought. If we are bringing a RB then screw Caudrado too.
 

duranfj

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Jul 30, 2015
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These two are reliable players who consistently give the same output and do not expect to play much. I would keep them unless a good offer is made. We know what their quality level is and can rely on them in times of need. They can also play a variety of positions.

Asamoah is a very high quality player wherever you deploy him. The only question is his injury record. Lemina and Hernanes should be offloaded. A world class CM/CAM should be bought. If we are bringing a RB then screw Caudrado too.
Agree. But the point is that people is asking for Diawara and we already got mandrogara and half sensi so IMO we shouldn't have so many subs in our MF
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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Agree. But the point is that people is asking for Diawara and we already got mandrogara and half sensi so IMO we shouldn't have so many subs in our MF
These players are too raw. Loan them out, give them to sassoulo etc.. and go for someone more established
 
Apr 9, 2015
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We can't get all talents and the reasons are obvious. Too much people here are fixated on talents. You don't wanna buy 28'ers because they are too old. That is hilarious we are a topclub and need to buy people in their prime with some talents as back-up or loaned out to get potential worldclass players. Not 80 talents in the hope we get some worldclass players. Every club bought player between 25-32 because they had experience and were developed 10-15 years ago. Now is the whole world screaming "He is already 28 years old, buy a younger player" or "get rid of him he is already 30."
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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We can't get all talents and the reasons are obvious. Too much people here are fixated on talents. You don't wanna buy 28'ers because they are too old. That is hilarious we are a topclub and need to buy people in their prime with some talents as back-up or loaned out to get potential worldclass players. Not 80 talents in the hope we get some worldclass players. Every club bought player between 25-32 because they had experience and were developed 10-15 years ago. Now is the whole world screaming "He is already 28 years old, buy a younger player" or "get rid of him he is already 30."
:agree:

Excellent post. And this is why this past summer's mercato even if it looked very iffy turned out very well, because we purchased a very good mix of established (Khedira, Mandzu) and young stars (Dybala, Sandro), and a couple young very raw players with good potential (Zaza, Lemina).

I hope we continue this path. A couple very good, very experienced players in that 27-30 age group each year... a couple expensive young players that look like sure things. And a few high potential, but very raw, and high chance of flopping young players too.
 
Apr 19, 2007
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We can't get all talents and the reasons are obvious. Too much people here are fixated on talents. You don't wanna buy 28'ers because they are too old. That is hilarious we are a topclub and need to buy people in their prime with some talents as back-up or loaned out to get potential worldclass players. Not 80 talents in the hope we get some worldclass players. Every club bought player between 25-32 because they had experience and were developed 10-15 years ago. Now is the whole world screaming "He is already 28 years old, buy a younger player" or "get rid of him he is already 30."
All of our best players are young talents. Dybala,Pogba,Morata. Yes we need older players but you also have to know we have ambitions of being the best in Europe while operating at a budget much lower to the top 2-5 teams. That has to be part of the talk as well that we cant just get established players but also have a good balance of cheap young talents

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Balance is key and with balance there will be more quantity of young talents then older established players stricktly due to money involved. How much i Lemina costing us this year? Dont get to cought up in the number of "talents but rather the amount of money we are wasting on them. I would be curious to see the amount across the last 5 years we have spent on young unproven talent and the return on them or speculative return on them
 
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