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Orgut

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I guess you haven't noticed a guy named Pjanic playing next to him that creates most of Romas attacks. Or maybe you confuse the two. I don't know what it is Lemina is more of an "organizer" than Nainggolan will ever be
Yes I have a great player... Nainggolan isnt an AM nor a Pirlo but he distributes the play very well
Nainggolan isn't an organizer in the slightest. Has rarely played that role for Roma. De Rossi has been there DM (aside from the few occasions he plays as a CB in a back 3-very rare), and he organizes there play out from the back. When it's not him, it's been Pjanic... Even Keita has played that DM--organizer role more than Nainggolan.

Nainggolan is a pitbull of a B2B midfielder... and while he's an excellent player, passing and organizing play is not at all one of his strong points... playing him as a regista/DM would be a waste.
Never said he should be a regista or play as a DM...
Oscar isnt a DM or a regista but I mentioned him (even if he isnt my favorite) because he has the skills to distribute!
Willian isnt a DM or a regista but I mentioned him as well

Its like saying a player who scores lots of goals must be a striker...
Rivaldo scored lots of goals but he was an AM and not a striker!

and its true Nainggolan is a very good B2B player
De Rossi is a good player very good defensive player but I wouldnt call him an organizer..
Playing DM doesnt make you an organizer...

Sissoko was once playing in our mid in a defensive stance he definitely wasnt an organizer!

Lemina doesnt has the skills to be an organizer - Pogba has but it will be a waste playing him there!

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http://www.football-italia.net/83081/juve-plan-lapadula-bid

"Juventus reportedly want to sign Pescara’s Gianluca Lapadula and send him out on loan in Serie A"

he's already 26, if we send him out on loan, odds are he'll never play for juve. so either beppe is expecting some plusvalenza, or he just wants to piss off napoli.
Yap this is quite stupid
He could be a nice capture instead of Zaza which we will cash on him
 

zizinho

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Yes I have a great player... Nainggolan isnt an AM nor a Pirlo but he distributes the play very well


Never said he should be a regista or play as a DM...
Oscar isnt a DM or a regista but I mentioned him (even if he isnt my favorite) because he has the skills to distribute!
Willian isnt a DM or a regista but I mentioned him as well

Its like saying a player who scores lots of goals must be a striker...
Rivaldo scored lots of goals but he was an AM and not a striker!

and its true Nainggolan is a very good B2B player
De Rossi is a good player very good defensive player but I wouldnt call him an organizer..
Playing DM doesnt make you an organizer...

Sissoko was once playing in our mid in a defensive stance he definitely wasnt an organizer!

Lemina doesnt has the skills to be an organizer - Pogba has but it will be a waste playing him there!

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Yap this is quite stupid
He could be a nice capture instead of Zaza which we will cash on him
The more you post, the less sense you make.

Why do you think Nainggolan is an organizer while Lemina is not?
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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http://www.football-italia.net/83081/juve-plan-lapadula-bid

"Juventus reportedly want to sign Pescara’s Gianluca Lapadula and send him out on loan in Serie A"

he's already 26, if we send him out on loan, odds are he'll never play for juve. so either beppe is expecting some plusvalenza, or he just wants to piss off napoli.
Why do you think that? Given his age, you'd know fairly quickly how adaptive he is to Serie A, and I don't think he will be given much more than a season on loan to prove himself. If we do buy him, I think it will be with the intent to eventually use him, loan or not.
 

KB824

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The more you post, the less sense you make.

Why do you think Nainggolan is an organizer while Lemina is not?

And I don't understand why we can't wait to see what we have with Lemina for the rest of the season to determine if a replacement for Marchisio that is not already in house, is necessary.

Yes, he's vastly different than Marchisio, but that doesn't mean that Allegri can't adapt, or that Lemina can't do the job that the coach asks of him.

And if we do need to find someone to come in for Marchisio until he recovers, I can't see us spending the type of money for the types of players that people are mentioning for what would amount to a short term solution
 

Zacheryah

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indeed, but it is the perfect excuse for Marotta to bring more mediocre CMs, that was planning to get anyway.
He will use this injury to justify them, saying that we needed someonevto fill in, but not quite starter material, because Marchisio will eventually return...
Holy greek inflation, lets take a look at that shall we

Aquilani : Loaned, played most games

Pirlo : free transfer, fapfap son, fapfap
Vidal : 10.5 mil : fapfap son, fapfap
Giaccherini : also known as Conte's favorite player. 40 games for juve, 23 azzurri caps based on juve performance
Padoin : aka the fan's favorite player

Asamoah : played as a LWB instead and twice player of the season on his position
Paul Pogba : probably the most expensive CM in the world today, and the most complete one

Sturaro : Invaluable bench option, thats usually vital against topclass teams such as real madrid, or city where he schooled Toure
Pereyra : Proven to be a very usefull squad player, and can play a decent AM, when having a SS with great ball retention.

Khedira : an undisputed starter when fit, on a free transfer. world class game versus bayern, top class player in general
Lemina : Allready the vice marchisio, huge talent
Hernanes : i dont like him, but when supported by a midfield he can hook his cart at, pretty solid player. Needs to get that intermerda out of him.


Yeah, 'mediocre cm's'.


Marotta's CM's have been the backbone of all our succes since the Conte arrived, and continued to do that under Allegri where the team started going again once they were setteling.


Those mediocre cm's ? I'll have a dozen, thank you very much

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Rivaldo scored lots of goals but he was an AM and not a striker!

and its true Nainggolan is a very good B2B player
De Rossi is a good player very good defensive player but I wouldnt call him an organizer..

Lemina doesnt has the skills to be an organizer -
Rivaldo was a supporting striker, that was capable of playing all offensive positions. Winger on both sides, central forward, supporting forward and am. He was not "an am".

Nainggolan is a great defensive controller, but he needs a playmaker going forward. he adds b2b to his game which is excellent. In a midfield with Khedira and Pogba he would offcourse work. But Nainggolan would rather have his 15 watches stolen again before comming here. He sticks to his principles. Good for him, i'll respect that. He wont play here, sadly.

De Rossi is a defensive controller and a decent build up player. You cannot look at today's rossi who has significantly decayed over the years because of playing in crappy managed roma teams. Very sadly he never went to a top team, because he didnt remotely reach his potential.

Lemina is very talented, you cant say that yet. But again, With Khedira+Pogba you dont necessarely need to be a playmaking CM.
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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Holy greek inflation, lets take a look at that shall we

Aquilani : Loaned, played most games

Pirlo : free transfer, fapfap son, fapfap
Vidal : 10.5 mil : fapfap son, fapfap
Giaccherini : also known as Conte's favorite player. 40 games for juve, 23 azzurri caps based on juve performance
Padoin : aka the fan's favorite player

Asamoah : played as a LWB instead and twice player of the season on his position
Paul Pogba : probably the most expensive CM in the world today, and the most complete one

Sturaro : Invaluable bench option, thats usually vital against topclass teams such as real madrid, or city where he schooled Toure
Pereyra : Proven to be a very usefull squad player, and can play a decent AM, when having a SS with great ball retention.

Khedira : an undisputed starter when fit, on a free transfer. world class game versus bayern, top class player in general
Lemina : Allready the vice marchisio, huge talent
Hernanes : i dont like him, but when supported by a midfield he can hook his cart at, pretty solid player. Needs to get that intermerda out of him.


Yeah, 'mediocre cm's'.


Marotta's CM's have been the backbone of all our succes since the Conte arrived, and continued to do that under Allegri where the team started going again once they were setteling.


Those mediocre cm's ? I'll have a dozen, thank you very much

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Rivaldo was a supporting striker, that was capable of playing all offensive positions. Winger on both sides, central forward, supporting forward and am. He was not "an am".

Nainggolan is a great defensive controller, but he needs a playmaker going forward. he adds b2b to his game which is excellent. In a midfield with Khedira and Pogba he would offcourse work. But Nainggolan would rather have his 15 watches stolen again before comming here. He sticks to his principles. Good for him, i'll respect that. He wont play here, sadly.

De Rossi is a defensive controller and a decent build up player. You cannot look at today's rossi who has significantly decayed over the years because of playing in crappy managed roma teams. Very sadly he never went to a top team, because he didnt remotely reach his potential.

Lemina is very talented, you cant say that yet. But again, With Khedira+Pogba you dont necessarely need to be a playmaking CM.
Very good post. Except for the Hernanes part that fucker will never get the intermerda out of him.
 

Hust

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Juventus scout Vlahovic
By Football Italia staff


Juventus reportedly sent scouts to watch Serbian prospect Dusan Vlahovic at the weekend.

The 16-year-old is 6ft 3 and is the youngest ever goalscorer in the history of FK Partizan, having scored against Radnik Surdulica this month.

Calciomercato reports that Bianconeri sent scouts to observe Vlahovic in the Belgrade derby against Red Star, where he played the final six minutes of a 1-1 draw.

It’s though the youngster first came to the attention of the Turin giants at the Nereo Rocco Under-17 tournament, where Partizan lifted the trophy and the striker hit eight goals.

Vlahovic, who has been compared to Zlatan Ibrahimovic, recently signed a new contract until 2018, but Juve are reportedly ready to make a move for the talented Serbian.

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16 years old and 6 ft 3 :shocked:

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Juve plan Lapadula bid
By Football Italia staff

Juventus reportedly want to sign Pescara’s Gianluca Lapadula and send him out on loan in Serie A, but they face competition from Napoli.

The Delfini number 10 has impressed in Serie B this season, scoring 22 goals and providing 10 assists in 34 appearances.

Tuttosport reports today that the Bianconeri intend to sign the forward before loaning him out to either Chievo, Sassuolo or Empoli.

A move to Sassuolo could form part of a deal for Domenico Berardi, while the newspaper suggests an Empoli loan could help Juve land Riccardo Saponara.

However, the outlet warns that Old Lady director Beppe Marotta doesn’t want to pay the €10m fee requested by Pescara President Daniele Sebastiani.

The Turin giants could face competition for the 26-year-old, as Napoli owner Aurelio De Laurentiis has a good relationship with Sebastiani.

There could also be bids from the Premier League, where the report says there are clubs that have sent scouts and that are willing to meet the €10m request.

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loan a 26 year old? lol
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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And I don't understand why we can't wait to see what we have with Lemina for the rest of the season to determine if a replacement for Marchisio that is not already in house, is necessary.

Yes, he's vastly different than Marchisio, but that doesn't mean that Allegri can't adapt, or that Lemina can't do the job that the coach asks of him.

And if we do need to find someone to come in for Marchisio until he recovers, I can't see us spending the type of money for the types of players that people are mentioning for what would amount to a short term solution
Agree. Lemina has shown great potential whenever he played and should be given a lot of playing time in the remaining games to prove himself. I don't see a reason why he can't play there for a few months. Keep Marrone or Hernanes till January and bring Diawara or Mandragora for extra depth. No need for big names

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Juventus scout Vlahovic
By Football Italia staff


Juventus reportedly sent scouts to watch Serbian prospect Dusan Vlahovic at the weekend.

The 16-year-old is 6ft 3 and is the youngest ever goalscorer in the history of FK Partizan, having scored against Radnik Surdulica this month.

Calciomercato reports that Bianconeri sent scouts to observe Vlahovic in the Belgrade derby against Red Star, where he played the final six minutes of a 1-1 draw.

It’s though the youngster first came to the attention of the Turin giants at the Nereo Rocco Under-17 tournament, where Partizan lifted the trophy and the striker hit eight goals.

Vlahovic, who has been compared to Zlatan Ibrahimovic, recently signed a new contract until 2018, but Juve are reportedly ready to make a move for the talented Serbian.

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16 years old and 6 ft 3 :shocked:
@Dostoevsky
 

Dostoevsky

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Agree. Lemina has shown great potential whenever he played and should be given a lot of playing time in the remaining games to prove himself. I don't see a reason why he can't play there for a few months. Keep Marrone or Hernanes till January and bring Diawara or Mandragora for extra depth. No need for big names

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@Dostoevsky
I literally know zero things about that kid. :D
 
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