Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (62 Viewers)

[InterMerda]

No, and neither has Mkhi, because you cannot extrapolate his assist&goal average for the entire season.
Vasguez and Hernanes had similar seasons at much, much inferior teams, in a much harder league to score, opposite to the very goal friendly bundesliga.
Mkhi is 27, and the best he ever did before was 9+10, again with a MUCH better team in the trigger happy bundesliga.


He is having a streak, carried by awesome players. Lets not make the mistake both Inter and Juve did with Hernanes.

Serie A matches played: 240
Goals scored: 617 (2.57 per match)

Bundesliga matches played: 180
Goals scored: 497 (2.76 per match)

I wouldn't say Serie A is a MUCH HARDER league to score compared to Bundesliga.

2014-2015 Serie A season averaged 2.69 per match...

 

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[Zacheryah]

You know, it's preferred to know what you talking about before replying.


36 goals is his involvement for the full season so far. Regardless of how much of is Vs EL small teams, it's very very impressive numbers.

Yes, it is. But he's not the player juventus should spend too much money on. He is lacking significantly in the mental aspect.

What teams is he currently linked with ? That should give some idea of the general impression he made

 

[Nicholas]

Yeah we've definitely moved in that direction under Allegri but it is still a battle to play our football at times, we have to wear teams down. The exception to that recently was Chievo, but they kind of gave up at 0-2.

I didn't agree with Mancini's comments that teams don't play good football in Italy because he's obviously a bitter and defensive whiner, but it's true that he says teams are interested in breaking up play more than making play in Italy, at least when they think they can get away with doing that. Our last two games are examples.

Yeah but there's very few playmakers on the market who are able to break up teams with one pass. Ozil being one of the few exceptions.

 

[Osman]

Nice save Bro. Your selective pseudo arguments running out so now it's the mentality I see.


Mkhi is someone I was arguing against as our top signing in summer, happpy to admit he proved me wrong with this season even if he is not most ideal choice for me. Just a quality player that we should get if we can (for me over Oscar even). Atleast defenitely give him enough respect to realize he is better then Hernanes or Vazquez at their best, quite clear in his short career so far.


Also as a previous poster mentionned his not moving from Dortmund most likely after finding his groove again with new coach. Even if Raiola is his agent.

 

[Zacheryah]

Serie A matches played: 240
Goals scored: 617 (2.57 per match)

Bundesliga matches played: 180
Goals scored: 497 (2.76 per match)

I wouldn't say Serie A is a MUCH HARDER league to score compared to Bundesliga.

Those stats, are quite misleading.


Its incredibly tricky to score that first goal in italy. Many teams build entirely to completely shut down the opponent. They either succeed and keep the 0, or they concede, need to get out of their bunker and consequently open the gates for several more goals.

Napoli is prime at that. 0-0 for quite a while, they score once, the opponent goes completely awol, and the game ends 5-1.


Bundeslige is entirely different. Goals come easyer and more natural. If a team scores, you get an open game with chances at both sides. Its arguably even more attacking then the spanish league, with lesser talent.

 

[Nicholas]

What's everyone's thoughts on Bernado Silva? I've hardly seen anything of him but people seem to be excited about the prospect of getting him.

 

[JuveJay]

Yeah but there's very few playmakers on the market who are able to break up teams with one pass. Ozil being one of the few exceptions.

Maybe we're not looking for a classic playmaker. I think rounded AMs suit Italy better. Vazquez for example seems like a real luxury, he's only interesting because of his nationality and relationship with Dybala.

 

[Zacheryah]

Nice save Bro. Your selective pseudo arguments running out so now it's the mentality I see.


Mkhi is someone I was arguing against as our top signing in summer, happpy to admit he proved me wrong with this season even if he is not most ideal choice for me. Just a quality player that we should get if we can (for me over Oscar even). Atleast defenitely give him enough respect to realize he is better then Hernanes or Vazquez at their best, quite clear in his short career so far.


Also as a previous poster mentionned his not moving from Dortmund most likely after finding his groove again with new coach. Even if Raiola is his agent.

Oh i'm not rating him the same as Hernanes (that would be an insult) or Vasquez, but i'm pointing out to watch out for a player who near his prime has a good season in ideal circumstances. It tends to be that one of a kind season.
At Juve, i prefer the midfielders to have that die hard mentality. He doesnt have it. He's mentally very weak and prone to players around him.

Unless its a disgustingly good bonus when the team runs well, i dont want such players

 

[Osman]

Diehard mentality? For one this guy never stops running in any game I seen him in. Regarding mentality, in what way is he weak, or weaker then the average? That he was struggling or sulking when the team were doing poorly? That's typical. There is no grounds to assume he is the new Nedved in mental fortitude, but let's not pretend we are his shrinks either and he is some weak wuss. That's just reaching for shit to say.

 

[InterMerda]

Those stats, are quite misleading.


Its incredibly tricky to score that first goal in italy. Many teams build entirely to completely shut down the opponent. They either succeed and keep the 0, or they concede, need to get out of their bunker and consequently open the gates for several more goals.

Napoli is prime at that. 0-0 for quite a while, they score once, the opponent goes completely awol, and the game ends 5-1.


Bundeslige is entirely different. Goals come easyer and more natural. If a team scores, you get an open game with chances at both sides. Its arguably even more attacking then the spanish league, with lesser talent.

Well it's true that teams in Serie A shut down their defenses really well especially against us. But I've watched some bundesliga this season their football is not as attractive and attacking as one may think. Just like in every league, there are many kind of teams, frosinone and genoa are two examples of motherfucking defensive teams but you also have fiorentina, lazio, napoli, etc that will try to attack, keep possession and score. There are those kinds of teams in buli as well.

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Yes, it is. But he's not the player juventus should spend too much money on. He is lacking significantly in the mental aspect.

What teams is he currently linked with ? That should give some idea of the general impression he made

I do agree "miki" is not the player we should splash the cash on. A world class RB/RWB is more urgent and a vice marchisio so pado and hernanes never have to be put on the pitch again. Maybe we should forget about the CAM right now since this 352 is working really well.

 

[Vlad]

Except what you agreeing with is factually incorrect. But bubble on like a Pez dispenser, why not.

Why the fuck do you care what I agree with, you fuckin' mongrel?

 

[Osman]

How cute, little pedercino acting out. You showed me alright. Go collect your little gold star from babushka.

But you are right. Facts and reality was never your forte, so why start now?

 

[Cheesio]

What's everyone's thoughts on Bernado Silva? I've hardly seen anything of him but people seem to be excited about the prospect of getting him.

Same problem we will have with Berardi, he's extremely left footed, like to cut inside from the right, same area Dybala loves to start operating from.
Contrary to Berardi, I could see Bernando Silva playing as an AM because he can dribble in tight spaces and have superior vision to Berardi who's essentialy an inside forward.

 

[Nicholas]

Maybe we're not looking for a classic playmaker. I think rounded AMs suit Italy better. Vazquez for example seems like a real luxury, he's only interesting because of his nationality and relationship with Dybala.

I'd go for Gundogan. Certainly if we're gonna stick with the 3-5-2.

 

[Vlad]

How cute, little pedercino acting out. You showed me alright. Go collect your little gold star from babushka.

But you are right. Facts and reality was never your forte, so why start now?

cringe

 

[JuveJay]

Less of the insults please.

 

[Nicholas]

3-5-2 isn't an insult Jay.

 

[dolph]

Zach,

Miki was exception at Shakhtar too.

He basically averaged a goal every other game, Hernanes nor Vazquez have ever done that.

Its kind of funny how this mentally challenged one season wonder, had a very good first season in Dortmund and was the starplayer in a Shaktar team with Willian, Costa and Teixiera.

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Same problem we will have with Berardi, he's extremely left footed, like to cut inside from the right, same area Dybala loves to start operating from.
Contrary to Berardi, I could see Bernando Silva playing as an AM because he can dribble in tight spaces and have superior vision to Berardi who's essentialy an inside forward.

I Agree. Bernardo Silva fits as an AM. In my opinion he is also the more talented player.

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Those stats, are quite misleading.


Its incredibly tricky to score that first goal in italy. Many teams build entirely to completely shut down the opponent. They either succeed and keep the 0, or they concede, need to get out of their bunker and consequently open the gates for several more goals.

Napoli is prime at that. 0-0 for quite a while, they score once, the opponent goes completely awol, and the game ends 5-1.


Bundeslige is entirely different. Goals come easyer and more natural. If a team scores, you get an open game with chances at both sides. Its arguably even more attacking then the spanish league, with lesser talent.

Ffs. Who cares when and how the goals are scored. The goal average is almost the same. How is that misleading?

 

[Fr3sh]

According to L'Equipe, Juventus are very interested in PSG striker Edinson Cavani but Man United are the favorites to sign him.

Oh God! Oh God! Oh GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWDDDDDD!!!!


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Back to back CL champs!!

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Bench: Ibra, Mandzo, etc.

 

[Hist]

How cute, little pedercino acting out. You showed me alright. Go collect your little gold star from babushka.

But you are right. Facts and reality was never your forte, so why start now?