Emre Can - CM/DM - Liverpool (36 Viewers)

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Post Ironic

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But for different reasons. I'm fine with signing Can as potential 4rd mid, or squad player, he can be of use of course, but just not for that kind of money. It's completely undeserved.
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I think it's overpaying him too but the context of a free transfer makes it slightly more understandable. I also think he could develop into a very good CM here, which you don't. We just disagree.
 

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zizinho

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No they shouldnt get that much. Do you think that Sandro will demand what Can is making or leave to get 4.5 somewhere else? He knows his market value. His agent knows and will tell him he can be mad or go else where and make the same. The biggest thing with guys like Sandro is what thre epl is offering him.
i would demand more. i know im the better player and have been at the club for 3 seasons. why should i earn less than a mediocre newcomer?
 
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So Costa should be asking for more than higgy now? I know what you are saying but it doesnt always work like that.Rugani should be making a ton more. Should Sandro get as much as our better fbs? 3 mil or get equal to what say Chelsea would give him? There are a lot of factors that goes in to what you should be paid and its not all just within your team. Also When a player makes more and the club explains why and they cant give you a raise what do you do? Leave to get paid the same elsewhere? Or does another team pay you more? Did you not know the club was underpaying you before Can came in?
 

The Quazis

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how you conclude we wont have any money for midfield? Asamoah is replaced by Spinazzola, and if AS leaves, we naturally buy a replacement. doesent mean that replacement will cost the exact same amount as AS, leaving us with nothing to reinvest in other positions. think a little damn it.

what are the options? its pointless to discuss names now, as mercato is always unpredictable, but just to name a few. SMS, Kovacic, Nzonzi, Dembele.

so why sign Can then, we have Bentancur who is better already? you obviously didnt watch Meyer if you thought hes a level below Can. he was a key player for Schalke playing regista in their 352, they finished runner up behind Bayern this season. Can was nowhere near as important to Liverpool
I concluded that on our precious mercatos, we usually spend 20-30 millions. Asamoah is replaced by Spina who will resume training in six months and nobody knows whether he'll return to full fitness this season. Not to mention regaining his form. You really think we gonna sign SMS? It's theoretically possible but only theoretically. Same goes for Kovacic, why would Real let such a prospect if Modric is aging and they clearly don't believe in Llorente or Ceballos. If anything, they would let these to go. Nzonzi and Dembele are both over thirty, will cost money and also demand high, long contracts.
Bentancur better than Can :sergio:

And please don't ask me "to think" as you were some mastermind. You only make yourself look silly.

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zizinho

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I concluded that on our precious mercatos, we usually spend 20-30 millions. Asamoah is replaced by Spina who will resume training in six months and nobody knows whether he'll return to full fitness this season. Not to mention regaining his form. You really think we gonna sign SMS? It's theoretically possible but only theoretically. Same goes for Kovacic, why would Real let such a prospect if Modric is aging and they clearly don't believe in Llorente or Ceballos. If anything, they would let these to go. Nzonzi and Dembele are both over thirty, will cost money and also demand high, long contracts.
Bentancur better than Can :sergio:

And please don't ask me "to think" as you were some mastermind. You only make yourself look silly.

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what do you expect me to do when you write this crap:

"But that could be covered with AS money." So there won't be any money left to invest in the middle of the field as we need two LBs.
if Real signs a top midfielder, that creates extra competition. Kovacic would be 5th in rotation and would most likely request for a transfer. thats a potential opportunity a club with our kind of midfield shouldnt pass on. SMS is a must buy, was a must buy last season as well, but we bottled it. hes a lock-on superstar, complete midfielder in every way.

Nzonzi and Dembele are also both better than Can, would improve our starting XI instantly. Can is an OK 4th mid, but thats not what we need. in fact, him being a freebie is the sole reason we are even interested.
 

Hist

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how you conclude we wont have any money for midfield? Asamoah is replaced by Spinazzola, and if AS leaves, we naturally buy a replacement. doesent mean that replacement will cost the exact same amount as AS, leaving us with nothing to reinvest in other positions. think a little damn it.

what are the options? its pointless to discuss names now, as mercato is always unpredictable, but just to name a few. SMS, Kovacic, Nzonzi, Dembele.

so why sign Can then, we have Bentancur who is better already? you obviously didnt watch Meyer if you thought hes a level below Can. he was a key player for Schalke playing regista in their 352, they finished runner up behind Bayern this season. Can was nowhere near as important to Liverpool
Lemina is better than both. He has world class potential
 

Linebreak

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Can has the potential to become a really good CM if Allegri can bring the best out of him, which I think he can.

He has some nice touches, is athletic, is physically strong, can shoot from distance, can head, can open up defences with some vision, he's got the full repertoire required for a top CM, just needs to find consistency.
 

The Quazis

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what do you expect me to do when you write this crap:



if Real signs a top midfielder, that creates extra competition. Kovacic would be 5th in rotation and would most likely request for a transfer. thats a potential opportunity a club with our kind of midfield shouldnt pass on. SMS is a must buy, was a must buy last season as well, but we bottled it. hes a lock-on superstar, complete midfielder in every way.

Nzonzi and Dembele are also both better than Can, would improve our starting XI instantly. Can is an OK 4th mid, but thats not what we need. in fact, him being a freebie is the sole reason we are even interested.
What's wrong with what I said? You, as an optimist, prolly believe we gonna get 60mln for Sandro. Let's even assume that's what gonna happen. Then we need to buy 2 LBs since Asamoah is also leaving for Inter. A starting LB will cost us at least 40mln.a backup will be at least 15-20. Then what is left to reinvest in midfield?
SMS is a must buy my ass if he cost that much.
You're just biased regarding Can and that's it. Suggesting his arrival may interrupt SMS purchase or buying from Real Madrid. A cherry on the cake was your statement that Bentancur is better than Can. While in reality SMS cost 100mln, the fact Sneijder and Robben left Real and made careers elsewhere is not some precedent validating all such purchases. Look at Morata to Chelsea or Jese to psg.

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