Emanuele Giaccherini (6 Viewers)

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    I wonder which is the real reason Giacche is favored since day 1 from the other available options;
    -Tactical? (he is more of a SS than the rest and has better chances to score, which is important with our toothless finishers)
    -Form (he might be running circles around Elia in the trainings)
    -The obvious one (his nationality, baptized mental condition)
    are you saying Conte is a pro-Italian fascist?
     

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    Cronios

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    are you saying Conte is a pro-Italian fascist?
    no, our fans are and the board just gives them what they want, (since they are unable to deliver competence) or at least what they think they do want
    (not all of our fans our nationalists, as the Boriello related reactions proved)
    and Conte and Marotta are just ordered to favor Italians because of that
    and tuttosport help with the hype of the local heroes.
     
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    no, our fans are and the board just gives them what they want, (since they are unable to deliver competence) or at least what they think they do want
    (not all of our fans our nationalists, as the Boriello related reactions proved)
    and Conte and Marotta are just ordered to favor Italians because of that
    and tuttosport help with the hype of the local heroes.
    Conte + take orders = undefined.

    and Tuttosport hypes everything Juve does, forget local heroes.


    also it has been reported that Conte specifically asked for Giacchi.
     

    Cronios

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    FFS Cronios, if you don't like this Italian nationalism, then go support Inter! You KNOW that Juventus favours Italians, and no matter how much you scream and whine, it's not gonna change! So fuckin' stop it already!
    i will, as long as this compromises our performances...
    accepting shit players,like Molinaro, just because they are Italians was never our trademark.
    We used Italian defenders because they were the best in the world and we never hesitated to make a couple of quality additions, if this was necessary, there are other reasons now, that we are sacrificing performance to nationalism...
     

    Cronios

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    Conte + take orders = undefined.

    and Tuttosport hypes everything Juve does, forget local heroes.


    also it has been reported that Conte specifically asked for Giacchi.
    well, he does follows some certain guidelines that were imposed to his contract, those guidelines were obvious on the interviews of his very first interviews, about our goals.
    Same thing happened with Marotta and it was also a parameter our board opted for them, since they were willing to comply with that guideline (unlike DD for ex)

    However Conte's raising prestige status works to our favor, he is Italian, but he also loves Juve and he wants to win.
    He is also smart enough to understand that we need some boost for foreigners and hopefully he will be soon strong enough to impose his will.
    But he also needs some support from non nationalist voices, because it this moments, those voices dominate our team, as it has become painfully obvious with the last transfer window and the ongoing promotion of the Ital-Juve project...
     
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    Molinaro was voted best young Italian player of the year or something before he joined Juve, btw.
     
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    'non-nationalistic voices' :lol2:

    and I do not recall him saying he has to play Italians in his first interview, more so that Juve needs to restore lost pride and get back to where they belong.
     

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    well, he does follows some certain guidelines that were imposed to his contract, those guidelines were obvious on the interviews of his very first interviews, about our goals.
    Same thing happened with Marotta and it was also a parameter our board opted for them, since they were willing to comply with that guideline (unlike DD for ex)

    However Conte's raising prestige status works to our favor, he is Italian, but he also loves Juve and he wants to win.
    He is also smart enough to understand that we need some boost for foreigners and hopefully he will be soon strong enough to impose his will.
    But he also needs some support from non nationalist voices, because it this moments, those voices dominate our team, as it has become painfully obvious with the last transfer window and the ongoing promotion of the Ital-Juve project...
    Now don't exaggerate now Cron, what Ital-Juve voices are dominating if we're mainly interested in Caceres and Guarin. If we sign Zaccardo, Astori and Palombo then it's another story.
     

    Cronios

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    Now don't exaggerate now Cron, what Ital-Juve voices are dominating if we're mainly interested in Caceres and Guarin. If we sign Zaccardo, Astori and Palombo then it's another story.
    interested is one thing, i only see Boriello in (cause he is Italian), Sorensen out (cause he isnt)...
     

    Cronios

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    'non-nationalistic voices' :lol2:

    and I do not recall him saying he has to play Italians in his first interview, more so that Juve needs to restore lost pride and get back to where they belong.
    and also pointed out that he will build a Juve with an Italian core, exactly like Marotta.
    These words matter little for you, because you only care for the lost pride and competence.
    And that honors you, as a Juve fans, who puts Juve over nationalism.
    But for the ones who doesnt, those words are a corporal trademark, spoken through the lips of most of our post calciopoli directors, except maybe DD.
    Those words mean a lot to them and repeated again and again, through the Italian media.
    Because our Italians fans DO care about that, because they DO consider them a priority, because they do consider Juve an extension/reflexion of the NT, who hold above everything else.

    I wasnt aware of that, in the past, i dont know how deep it grows, it only became such a matter now, because we sacrifice performance for nationalism, and we do that in a very provocative way for any non Italian Juve fan, or any Italian Juve fans who loves Juve over the NT...
     

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