Emanuele Giaccherini - Forward - Cesena (5 Viewers)

[KB824]

In regards to Giaccherini, he is a nice player. Dare I say, he is a pretty good player, that will bring another element of speed to the squad. And not that Pepe type of speed, where he doesn't know what to do with the ball once he gets from point A to point B. This guy actually has a brain for football.

However, if he is the starting LW for this team, then all hopes go down the drain.


Someone earlier had mentioned that he hadn't really seen this guy play except for his matches against Milan and Inter last year.

Those were some of his better matches last year.

 

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[PhRoZeN]

bastos and vargas in the bag? So are we saying that the way this is approached is that Marotta first attempts to get a player and his availability before checking with the coach? Thats a lot of time being wasted. Also I dont think we were anywhere near getting bastos or vargas. May I ask how do we know that conte didnt want bastos or vargas? The former is bullcrap as bastos mentioned "Juve made two offers to Lyon, which they didn't accept," "When Lyon officials informed them of the fee they were after for a transfer, Juve backed off.

So clearly we were interested.

 

[Salvo]

In regards to Giaccherini, he is a nice player. Dare I say, he is a pretty good player, that will bring another element of speed to the squad. And not that Pepe type of speed, where he doesn't know what to do with the ball once he gets from point A to point B. This guy actually has a brain for football.

However, if he is the starting LW for this team, then all hopes go down the drain.


Someone earlier had mentioned that he hadn't really seen this guy play except for his matches against Milan and Inter last year.

Those were some of his better matches last year.

Reason, god its good to hear someone with it . I brought it up prior that he had slightly better stats than Gio. Not saying he is on par or not just showing that he is not a useless player, a good backup, Martinez will be another Amauri. In the sense that Martinez will have all his confidence shot. Giach is coming off a good season and will hopefully provide good backup. Backup being the key word, if we get Elia though I have a feeling that Giach will be in the first team before long. I hope that we do not get rid of Pasquato though, sell Martinez or use him in the deal...Or even sell Pepe.

 

[Orgut]

The biggiest mistake Marrotta IMO that Marrotta has committed up to this season, isnt any of the signings, but the choice of the coach. Way way more vital choice then whatever backup player one says.

I must admit I wanted a more proven manager than Conte someone like Capello who know how to bring discipline to the team.
Then we got Conte. Now its time to see what happens and what we achieve with him. Its pointless bashing Conte before he even managed 1 official game
I agree it doesnt look like the smartest of appointing as it seems like Ferrara all over again (unproven wise)

 

[Fake Melo]

The biggiest mistake Marrotta IMO that Marrotta has committed up to this season, isnt any of the signings, but the choice of the coach. Way way more vital choice then whatever backup player one says.

Who should he have hired? The club didn't need new players as much as the club needed to find identity.

 

[Osman]

Its also pointless bashing any "not good enough" player we sign, but guess what, we do, and should. And Conte's is way more vital of a signing and mistake/gamble to make then any mediocre player we sign as backup. That is something I hold Marrotta accountable for the most. Just because someone is hired, doesnt make them any less of a questionable choice or lacking in competence to be able to take us where we need to be taken (out of utter mediocrity).

 

[KB824]

Reason, god its good to hear someone with it . I brought it up prior that he had slightly better stats than Gio. Not saying he is on par or not just showing that he is not a useless player, a good backup, Martinez will be another Amauri. In the sense that Martinez will have all his confidence shot. Giach is coming off a good season and will hopefully provide good backup. Backup being the key word, if we get Elia though I have a feeling that Giach will be in the first team before long. I hope that we do not get rid of Pasquato though, sell Martinez or use him in the deal...Or even sell Pepe.

He's not as good as Gio, but he's not very far off either.

Giaccherini has more straight ahead speed than Giovinco, while Gio is a smoother player. Giaccherini is more of a bulldog type of player for his size.

 

[KB824]

Its also pointless bashing any "not good enough" player we sign, but guess what, we do, and should. And Conte's is way more vital of a signing and mistake/gamble to make then any mediocre player we sign as backup. That is something I hold Marrotta accountable for the most. Just because someone is hired, doesnt make them any less of a questionable choice or lacking in competence to be able to take us where we need to be taken (out of utter mediocrity).

How do you know for sure that Conte was a Marotta hire?

 

[Gustav]

The biggiest mistake Marrotta IMO that Marrotta has committed up to this season, isnt any of the signings, but the choice of the coach. Way way more vital choice then whatever backup player one says.

I think he had far more input last year in the choice of the coach, and we all saw how that turned out, and I think the board had far more to do with this appointment this time around.

I think it was Agnelli that chose Conte.

 

[Fake Melo]

Its also pointless bashing any "not good enough" player we sign, but guess what, we do, and should. And Conte's is way more vital of a signing and mistake/gamble to make then any mediocre player we sign as backup. That is something I hold Marrotta accountable for the most. Just because someone is hired, doesnt make them any less of a questionable choice or lacking in competence to be able to take us where we need to be taken (out of utter mediocrity).

Still no names of any coach...

 

[Salvo]

He's not as good as Gio, but he's not very far off either.

Giaccherini has more straight ahead speed than Giovinco, while Gio is a smoother player. Giaccherini is more of a bulldog type of player for his size.

I wasnt claiming he was, but his stats should not be ignored either.

 

[Osman]

Who should he have hired? The club didn't need new players as much as the club needed to find identity.

The club needs utter clear cut COMPETENCE and immediate improvement, way more then identity, hypothetically guranteed by hiring a former bandiera. Guess what, Ferrara had alot of Juve identity to offer, but not an ounce of competence enough to improve us. Its way more inexcusable to make a mistake in the coaching choice, then it is when it comes to signing one player.

And oh, plenty of coaches better then Conte around, to say the least, least of all, say hello to:

 

[Hust]

He's not as good as Gio, but he's not very far off either.

Giaccherini has more straight ahead speed than Giovinco, while Gio is a smoother player. Giaccherini is more of a bulldog type of player for his size.

Gattuso?

 

[Salvo]

 

[KB824]

Gattuso?

No.

Giaccherini has better instincts in the offensive zone than Gattuso could ever hope for.

He's a guy who plays bigger than his size, is what I was trying to get at.

 

[Osman]

I think he had far more input last year in the choice of the coach, and we all saw how that turned out, and I think the board had far more to do with this appointment this time around.

Hey, I'm not excluding this to only Marrotta, but he is the one that has the mandate to run the club day to day, and coach choice is big part of that. But what do you base what you just said on? Conte doesnt need to be his close ally as Del Neri was, but still I see no indication he didnt want Conte too all the same, out of convenience more then anything.

 

[Osman]

I think it was Agnelli that chose Conte.

I know he played a role to that, the way he played lipservice to the appointment, but I have no reason to believe Marrotta didnt want to hire him as much as Agnelli. It was the "safe" choice for them, not first choice, they arent that dumb, but still the quick choice they made after failing to get some options.

 

[Fake Melo]

The club needs utter clear cut COMPETENCE and immediate improvement, way more then identity, hypothetically guranteed by hiring a former bandiera. Guess what, Ferrara had alot of Juve identity to offer, but not an ounce of competence enough to improve us. Its way more inexcusable to make a mistake in the coaching choice, then it is when it comes to signing one player.

And oh, plenty of coaches better then Conte around, to say the least, least of all, say hello to:

Oh I would love this guy but you it was FAR out of our reach.

Firstly, the so-called "die hard fans" were burning up the stadium and asking for Conte.

They were also asking for Marotta's head, how should Marotta response? By hiring Ancelotti? It would only result in war. I don't even think Ancelotti would accept it, even if he did the fans wouldn't let him work in peace. Conte can't be compared to Ferrara, the latter wasn't even a coach and was working under fucking Secco.

 

[Salvatore]

In regards to Giaccherini, he is a nice player. Dare I say, he is a pretty good player, that will bring another element of speed to the squad. And not that Pepe type of speed, where he doesn't know what to do with the ball once he gets from point A to point B. This guy actually has a brain for football.

It's worrying that any player that shouldn't start for Juventus, apparently sucks. I think this that is a good summary of the guy though. I like that he's a quick little player with good ball control, adds a new dimension to the team of athletic wide players with lesser technique (Pepe and Krasic to a much smaller extent). I'm not keen on what this might mean for Pasquato, however.

 

[Salvo]

It's worrying that any player that shouldn't start for Juventus, apparently sucks. I think this that is a good summary of the guy though. I like that he's a quick little player with good ball control, adds a new dimension to the team of athletic wide players with lesser technique (Pepe and Krasic to a much smaller extent). I'm not keen on what this might mean for Pasquato, however.

This is how I see it.