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Fred

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Lets not get into semantics B. Even if you don't count Arsenal, then the way he played against Inter, Chelsea and Real in the second leg are enough to show how he performs against the top clubs.

@Nick, the Downing comment is going to come back to haunt you ala the Defoe - Rooney one, trust me on that. There is no way Downing is even close to Gareth Bale.
 

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Nicholas

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Krasic is on the same level as Bale and I don't consider him one of the best in the World. Yet he also managed to destroy United & Inter and has been more influential to the teams he's played for.
 
Fred

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Nick these are Iniesta's statistics

32 games, 8 goals, 3 assists.

According to you, he's not one of the best central mids in the world right?

Relying on statistics is always the worst argument you can make.

We'll see where Bale ends up, i'm sure it won't be long before he plays for a top club.

@B, dribbling is the ability to beat your man, doesn't really matter how you do it. It might not be pretty how Bale does it, but its damn well effective.
 
Fred

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@Nick, you brought statistics to prove that Bale isn't one of the best wingers.

Using the same argument i showed you how according to your logic, Iniesta cannot be considered one of the best. Don't contradict yourself now
 
IrishZebra

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Fred said:
@IZ, thats bullshit man, he was one of the best players in the EPL throughout last season. That is in addition to destroying big clubs like Inter, Arsenal and Chelsea. Actually his performance against Real Madrid in the second leg was amazing too, he absolutely destroyed S.Ramos. The guy is one of the fastest players in the world, he's an excellent dribbler, he can shoot a ball, his crossing isn't too bad, he's good at set pieces and he can score goals. So, the Bale is overrated and a one trick pony argument is outdated, he's already proven his quality.
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Interesting viewpoint, 42 games, 11 goals, better last season than Nani, which I think means not much. Remeber schalke, they beat inter too. Destroyed Arsenal,the great robust Arsenal or Football lite? Spurs didn't even beat Chelsea and Bale didn't even score against them, which can only mean, shock of shocks, he was exciting and fast but not substantial.


I'll tell you why I don't think he's quality, yet. Firstly you mentioned at most 7 games where you think he proved his quality. C. Ronaldo, Messi et al have done it in more like 70 games. Secondly, I personally think that the 'top' fullbacks such as Ramos,Alves,Maicon,if you want Cole rely on speed to a greater extent than let's say patrice Evra. These new 'fast' fullbacks (as in attacking,pacey fullbacks) can be raped by Bale because Bale is faster not because he's fleet of foot.

To try to convey where I'm coming from, I still consider Chicharito to have something to prove, I believe it takes at least 3 seasons of continued performance for a player to become 'quality'. Bale has had one, hampered by the fact that he plays for Lolspurs. Arsenal fan fapping over such a player is understandable :p
 
Byrone

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I'm not debating how he beats his man, Fred but as i said dribbling is not kicking it past a player & outrunning him. You know better than that, Fred.
 
Fred

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@Nick, i think Iniesta is one of the best players in the world. You can't think so though, because you rely on statistics. Like i said, please don't contradict yourself
 
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